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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 03:37 PM Oct 2013

Ew! Jackson thinks birth defects are caused by sin.

Srsly.

http://politics.blogs.timesdispatch.com/2013/10/07/virginia-families-blast-jackson-over-comments-on-birth-defects/

Two families with children suffering from birth defects wrote an open letter to E.W. Jackson, the Republican candidate for lieutenant governor, criticizing him for comments in his book “Ten Commandments to an Extraordinary Life,” that allege birth defects are the consequence of sin. The letter will be mailed Tuesday.

“As parents of children born with disabilities, it is offensive and disturbing to imply that our children are somehow a punishment. As someone seeking to serve in public office, you owe an apology for this baseless mischaracterization of Virginia children to thousands of families across the commonwealth,” says the letter, which was signed by Dorothea Hampton of Newport News and Neil and Sarelle Holliday of Norfolk, the Senate district of Jackson’s Democratic rival, Sen. Ralph S. Northam.

In his 2008 book, Jackson wrote that “it is the principle of sin, rebellion against God and His truth, which has brought about birth defects and other destructive natural occurences.”

The two families call Jackson’s ideology “nothing other than destructive and extreme. All of Virginia’s families deserve to be treated with respect, but your claim that sin is the cause if birth defects severely undermines this reality.


EW!
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Ew! Jackson thinks birth defects are caused by sin. (Original Post) KamaAina Oct 2013 OP
These people a fucking nuts. Scuba Oct 2013 #1
before medicine, in the dark ages, they believed roguevalley Oct 2013 #17
"These people" run Congress. They are why we can't have nice things in the US anymore. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #28
Also said Planned Parenthood has done more to hurt blacks than the Ku Klux Klan KansDem Oct 2013 #2
EW Jackson is f'ing scary. I see about 7 Jackson signs in front yards on my way to work FSogol Oct 2013 #3
Where's the outrage.... AZ Mike Oct 2013 #4
WOW. MBS Oct 2013 #5
So, Caribou Barbie is a sinner! Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #6
DUzy!! KamaAina Oct 2013 #7
An egomaniacal jerk! hamsterjill Oct 2013 #8
He beat you to it KamaAina Oct 2013 #9
But, of course!!! hamsterjill Oct 2013 #12
And drilling a hole in the head amb123 Oct 2013 #10
Trephining immoderate Oct 2013 #27
A lot of people believe as he does. SheilaT Oct 2013 #11
Ewwwwwwwww blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #13
That is one sick Fuck right there... Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #14
Is EW! Jackson a sinner, then? eom Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #15
EW, indeed! k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #16
He who is without BillyRibs Oct 2013 #18
E. W. Jackson. Excommunicated. mwooldri Oct 2013 #19
This is PURE Dark Ages stuff kwolf68 Oct 2013 #20
He misspelled the title of his own book ... ON THE COVER (Amazon link) Shampoobra Oct 2013 #21
E.W. Jackson needs to read his New Testament yellowcanine Oct 2013 #22
What does that mean? earthside Oct 2013 #30
To me it means that Jesus is saying birth defects are not caused by sin. yellowcanine Oct 2013 #31
Wasn't there a Reagan or Bush cabinet nominee who believed this crap? Paladin Oct 2013 #23
My inlaws have a severely disabled child. The parents are as religious as religious gets, CIT13 Oct 2013 #24
Here you go. KamaAina Oct 2013 #25
He's correct -- it is a basic tenet of Christianity earthside Oct 2013 #26
Doubt he believes in anything other than money. Orsino Oct 2013 #29

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
17. before medicine, in the dark ages, they believed
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 07:38 PM
Oct 2013

that. Remember, until the recent past, people believed gays came from frigid mothers and overbearing fathers.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
2. Also said Planned Parenthood has done more to hurt blacks than the Ku Klux Klan
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 03:49 PM
Oct 2013
Lt. gov. nominee Jackson says ‘no apologies’ for past comments on gays, abortion

Virginia’s newly minted Republican lieutenant governor nominee E.W. Jackson says his faith and values inform his conservative stances on issues such as abortion and marriage — and some of his past statements critics are now highlighting as extreme and offensive.

“I say the things that I say because I’m a Christian, not because I hate anybody, but because I have religious values that matter to me,” Jackson told reporters at a campaign stop in Fredericksburg. “Attacking me because I hold to those principles is attacking every church-going person, every family that’s living a traditional family life, everybody who believes that we all deserve the right to live. So I don’t have anything to rephrase or apologize for. I would just say people should not paint me as one-dimensional.”

Jackson, a virtual unknown who has never held public office, has grabbed headlines in recent days as Democrats immediately seized on his past comments on abortion, race and homosexuality. He suggested that Planned Parenthood has done more to hurt blacks than the Ku Klux Klan and called gays and lesbians “perverted” and “very sick people.”

The Chesapeake minister, who ran unsuccessfully for U.S. Senate last year, defeated six other candidates Saturday at the Republican Party of Virginia’s state convention to become the party’s first African American nominee for statewide office since 1988. Also on the GOP statewide ticket are gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli II and attorney general nominee Mark D. Obenshain.

--more--
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-politics/lt-gov-nominee-jackson-says-no-apologies-for-past-comments-on-gays-abortion/2013/05/21/8bd26c40-c258-11e2-914f-a7aba60512a7_story.html


Well, there you have it...

FSogol

(45,528 posts)
3. EW Jackson is f'ing scary. I see about 7 Jackson signs in front yards on my way to work
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 03:51 PM
Oct 2013

every morning. I see more Jackson signs than Cuccinelli signs. Scary crap!

Hope the GOTV efforts in VA are ramping up.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
5. WOW.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 04:01 PM
Oct 2013

I knew he was bad, but this statement is beyond bizarre. Luckily, the Dem candidate, Ralph Northam (http://www.northamforlg.com/), is a reality-based candidate, and a physician to boot, so he should be able to offer a compelling rebuttal. Northam has a strong record on women's issues (he saved VA from the worst of the outrageous vaginal ultrasound issue) and on the environment, both of which topics are of close relevance to Jackson's latest ravings.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
8. An egomaniacal jerk!
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 04:09 PM
Oct 2013

These types of people make me want to throw up. How dare he pass judgment on someone trying to raise a child with a birth defect.

You watch, now he'll just come out and twist what he's said in the past to exonerate himself.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. He beat you to it
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 04:12 PM
Oct 2013


Jackson attempted to clarify these lines in his book during a news conference in June, where he said that he doesn’t believe that birth defects are caused by parents’ sin, “unless, of course, there’s a direct scientific connection between the parents’ behavior and the disabilities of the child,” he said, giving the example of birth defects that might result from a child born to a mother addicted to heroin.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
12. But, of course!!!
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 04:54 PM
Oct 2013

Because, as someone already pointed out downthread, Republicans have children with birth defects, too.

What a jerk!!!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
11. A lot of people believe as he does.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 04:39 PM
Oct 2013

Imagine, if you can, that you're a nice, church-going, Bible-believing person. You do your very best to live a good life, to be a good person the way you understand you should be. You perhaps tithe to your church. You're kind to your neighbors. And so on. Then, oh happy day, a baby is born. Soon after birth you learn there is something wrong with your baby. All along your church has told you that only wicked sinners have children with birth defects. So you must have sinned, and now everyone knows it.

Okay, so all of you reading this do not buy into that at all. But many people do, and that's as much sad as it is scary. It's almost impossible to reach out to those people, because they live in a very closed world. There's no understanding of science, first off. Nothing about biology, heredity, or random chance.

To me, it would be much worse to be that kind of a person of that sort of faith, and then have something as terrible as a child with a birth defect, than it is to be a person of science (who happens to hold certain spiritual beliefs although they're not important here) who understands that I'm not responsible for my child's birth defect.

Blue Idaho

(5,057 posts)
14. That is one sick Fuck right there...
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 06:10 PM
Oct 2013

Its heartbreaking when any child is born with a birth defect - the last thing on earth we need is someone attaching guilt to the parents. but then - but that's what organized religion is good at, Guilt.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
19. E. W. Jackson. Excommunicated.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:36 PM
Oct 2013

I'll let you decide on what he is excommunicated from.. but in my book, he's a heretic. Sadly I don't believe in excommunication... but he's pushing my envelope on this one.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
22. E.W. Jackson needs to read his New Testament
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 10:47 AM
Oct 2013
John 9: 1-3 Jesus and the Blind Man

1 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth.

2 His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

3 "Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
30. What does that mean?
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 03:02 PM
Oct 2013

The guy was born blind so that Jesus could heal him?

This bible story appears to be specific for that one particular blind man so that Jesus could make a point about doing good deeds on the sabbath.

What about all the other blind people?
Jesus hasn't healed them.

It was the original sin that Adam and Eve committed that let Satan into the world, so according to many mainline Christian factions it is because of this that humans are not perfect and subject to the negative consequences of sin.

And ... that is all god's plan.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
31. To me it means that Jesus is saying birth defects are not caused by sin.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 08:49 PM
Oct 2013

This was an Old Testament notion which Jesus is refuting.

Paladin

(28,273 posts)
23. Wasn't there a Reagan or Bush cabinet nominee who believed this crap?
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 11:49 AM
Oct 2013

The nomination was hastily withdrawn, after the nominee voiced this same viewpoint about birth defects. Anybody else remember this?
 

CIT13

(99 posts)
24. My inlaws have a severely disabled child. The parents are as religious as religious gets,
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 02:27 PM
Oct 2013

and not just in words, but in their lives. His assertion makes me want to puke.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
26. He's correct -- it is a basic tenet of Christianity
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 02:42 PM
Oct 2013

Original sin.

Everything bad that happens to us is our fault because we are sinners and because Adam and Eve committed the original sin of disobeying their god.

By the way, this same god gets all the credit for anything good that might happen to us.

Being the Christian god is a pretty good gig: not responsible for the bad, get all credit for the good.

This realization is one for the main reasons I rejected Christianity and am now essentially a non-believer.







Orsino

(37,428 posts)
29. Doubt he believes in anything other than money.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 03:00 PM
Oct 2013

His willingness to be paid to say such reprehensible things supports that conclusion.

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