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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:53 PM Oct 2013

National Journal - "19 Times Democrats Tried to Negotiate With Republicans" - Another Lie Exposed

Republicans repeatedly recite the talking point that President Obama and Democrats have refused Republican efforts to negotiate. Of course, this is a complete lie. Here is a nice article in the National Journal that catalogs the numerous times this year alone that Republicans refused to negotiate. Of course, the corporate media has apparently taken a vow of secrecy to avoid mentioning this truth.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/19-times-democrats-tried-to-negotiate-with-republicans-20131007

To hear almost any Republican lawmaker speak in post-shutdown Washington is to hear that Democrats are refusing to negotiate to reopen the government and avert a debt default. It's a talking point that may be selling well, but it's only true if you ignore anything that happened before last Monday at about 11 p.m.

Republicans think they've hit talking-point gold with the message, as we learned from a candid "hot mic" moment last week when Sen. Rand Paul privately told fellow Kentuckian Mitch McConnell that he didn't think Democrats had "poll-tested" the "awful" message. " 'It's my way or the highway.' That's what he's saying. Complete surrender, and then we'll talk to you," House Speaker John Boehner told ABC News on Sunday.

In a sense, Republicans are right. Democrats view keeping the government open and out of default as Congress's most basic job, and the characterize anything that threatens that as "ransom," so they say they're not willing to come to the table until the government reopens. But, in context, the GOP's biggest talking point of the shutdown falls apart when you consider that Democrats only started refusing to negotiate after Republicans stopped, the hour before the government shut down a week ago.

For instance, through a Senate Democratic aide, here are all the times since this spring Senate Democrats tried to negotiate with Republicans by sending their budget to a bicameral conference committee. Every time, Republicans blocked the move.

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National Journal - "19 Times Democrats Tried to Negotiate With Republicans" - Another Lie Exposed (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2013 OP
Good that it is exposed, given this is what they are holding to. Mass Oct 2013 #1
Imagine that, the repukes lied gopiscrap Oct 2013 #2
This is classic Bully behavior, completely lie about the other person and play victim AZ Progressive Oct 2013 #3
Don't Believe The Corporate Media !!! blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #4
It bears repeating for the low information Rethug ffr Oct 2013 #5

Mass

(27,315 posts)
1. Good that it is exposed, given this is what they are holding to.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:55 PM
Oct 2013

Cantor has an editorial pushing the same meme tomorrow in the Washington Post (totally false, of course). Not linking.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
3. This is classic Bully behavior, completely lie about the other person and play victim
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 11:47 PM
Oct 2013

And I must fault schools for doing little to nothing to discourage bully behavior (until perhaps the last 10 years) rather than stamp out and correct their behavior when they had the chance. Why noone thought of putting hidden cameras on children who are the victims of bullies or put hidden security cameras in schools is beyond me.

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