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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:30 PM Oct 2013

Ted Cruz Could Force Debt Default All By Himself

Here’s a cheerful thought as Congress remains deadlocked over the debt ceiling and the hours tick away toward default: Senator Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), who basically forced the shutdown and whose own private polls have convinced him that it has been a glorious success, at this point could probably force a default and global economic calamity on his own—if he were so inclined. The Treasury Department says U.S. borrowing authority will expire on Thursday.

How could this happen? Because the Senate can move quickly when necessary, but only by unanimous consent. Let’s say Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) strike a deal today (that’s looking unlikely). Cruz surely won’t like it and has said repeatedly, “I will do everything necessary and anything possible to defund Obamacare.” If he’s true to his word, he could drag out the proceedings past Thursday and possibly well beyond. “If a determined band of nut jobs wants to take down the global economy, they could do it,” says Jim Manley, a former top staffer for Reid. “Under Senate rules, we are past the point of no return—there’s not anything Reid or McConnell could do about it.”

If Cruz is truly determined to block or delay any deal that does not touch Obamacare, here’s how he’d do it: The hypothetical Reid/McConnell bill would probably be introduced as an amendment to the “clean” debt-ceiling raise that Democrats introduced—and Republicans defeated—last week. Reid voted against cloture on the motion to proceed to that bill, a procedural tactic that allows him to reconsider the bill later on. Let’s say he does so by 5 p.m. Monday. There would need to be a cloture vote on the motion to proceed. Cruz would dissent, but he wouldn’t be able to round up 41 votes for a filibuster.

That wouldn’t be his only weapon, however. The real killer is that Senate rules stipulate there must be 30 hours of post-cloture debate, unless senators agree unanimously to waive it. Reid and McConnell would want unanimous consent to move quickly, but Cruz could refuse, thereby forcing 30 hours of debate. This would drag things out until Tuesday at 11:30 p.m. Then there would be a vote on the motion to proceed (requiring a simple majority), followed by an intervening day, assuming Cruz withheld his consent to vote earlier. So now we’re looking at a Thursday cloture vote on the bill itself, followed by another 30 hours of post-cloture debate that would blow right past the Treasury deadline. Finally, sometime on Friday, there would be a vote on the bill and on the amendment to swap in Reid/McConnell.

Only then could the bill proceed to the House—which hardly owns a sterling track record of speeding through controversial bills as the global economy teeters on the precipice. One bright spot is that the House can move much faster than the Senate, in spite of its caucus of debt-ceiling deniers. House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) could waive all points of order and take the bill straight to the floor within hours, as he has done often on shutdown-related bills. But by this time, it might be too late. “Bottom line,” says Manley, “the Senate runs by consent.” And if Cruz decides to withhold that consent, then all bets are off.



http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-14/ted-cruz-could-force-a-debt-default-all-by-himself

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mike_c

(36,281 posts)
5. you're correct, my bad....
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:44 PM
Oct 2013

End of the day and all that. So I hope that whomever elected the ass clown suffers mightily any consequences of his buffoonery.

Mz Pip

(27,448 posts)
12. The guy is a zealot
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:50 PM
Oct 2013

Christian Dominionist with delusions of a special calling.

They'll have drag him off the Senate floor in a straight jacket. I hope it comes to that. People won't wake up until it gets really out of control.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
6. I think desperate measures are needed.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:46 PM
Oct 2013

He has endangered the country no differently than a terrorist who blew up a bomb and did property damage along with harming human beings.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
7. Great, so a major superpower chooses to allow an individual senator to be able to single-handedly
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:46 PM
Oct 2013

force his government into a calamitous default. Great. Good thinking, rather how breathtakingly absurd, moronic, and stupid. Any individual so doing might wonder if he/she would wind up with his/her tits irretrievably caught up in a whooping big wringer.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
8. and then the House will impeach Obama
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:50 PM
Oct 2013

for letting Cruz do it
(repub logic 101 - we are responsible for nothing)

indepat

(20,899 posts)
15. Itching to impeach BHO they relish the thought: may all the impeacher wannabes get their
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:16 PM
Oct 2013

tits caught in a big wringer.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
10. Theres a simple solution.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:49 PM
Oct 2013

Just show a video on a big screen projector of Cruz standing in front of the confederate flag at the teabagger riot, and caption it "This is the guy who's deliberately sending the country into default and the economy in the tank". Put it up right in Senate Chamber, and invite news crews to film it.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
11. This is the man who claimed he had a enough votes to defund the ACA in the Senate
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:54 PM
Oct 2013

I would assume that means he thought he could get 67 senators to override Obama's veto of the bill. His grasp on reality seems to be very poor, so I wouldn't put it past him to destroy the world economy on a whim.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
16. Ted Cruz's wife works for Goldman Sachs
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:29 PM
Oct 2013

They will be able to steal trillions of dollars form Americans. They have set this up so they can raise the interest rates on the the money the government borrows. This is a theft of American tax dollars for decades to come. We need to point this out about how much Goldman Sachs and the other big banks are going to profit from this. It seems to me it is a form of treason. Follow the money.

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