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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 10:07 AM Nov 2013

CNN poll shows majority of people think ObamaCare can be fixed.

Google CNN online and you'll see this. As more and more people get enrolled and if more and more people will get in front of the cameras and tell positive ACA stories, and with more positive letters to the editor and word of mouth positive news, the tide will turn.

The main things we can do are to GET PEOPLE TO ENROLL and TELL POSITIVE STORIES and DEBUNK THE OBAMACARE LIES and
ask the question: WHAT IS THE REPUBLICAN ALTERNATIVE THAT GETS EVERYONE COVERED AND IMPROVES HEALTHCARE PLANS?
Because the R's have NO plan which does this which MUST happen for it to be REAL reform.

I think they are getting ready for ROLLOUT #2 with a massive effort to get people to enroll with the website now running so much better. We need to HELP. Getting MILLIONS of people to enroll is the number one priority. Then when the R's try to keep talking about repealing it, OUR SIDE will be the ones shouting. I think most Americans want the program to succeed. This will gel once they see SUCCESS.

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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
1. Good to see that most people aren't completely falling for the RW/MSM onslaught
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 10:22 AM
Nov 2013

If it holds up and things continue to improve, the Republicans are going to have a hard time selling repeal (not that it wasn't going to be easy for them in any event but the more people whom recognize that the new system is an improvement over the old one the less appeal there will be for repealing ACA- and, hopefully, electing Republicans)

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
2. The big challenge will be getting YOUNGER people to sign up. How do we get them to enroll?
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 10:27 AM
Nov 2013

The administration has an outreach plan, and we need them in. It will take a real all-hands-on-deck effort. A real turnout campaign.

What would you suggest?

Neon Gods

(222 posts)
3. Once the Obamacare websites are working well, the young, healthy people will sign-up on their own
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 12:41 PM
Nov 2013

I remember how important having health insurance was to me when I was in my 20s and 30s, even though I was very healthy. I had trouble affording it, but to me it was worth it to have assurance a medical problem wouldn't bankrupt me.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
4. Will enough of them think to do so? And do they think they are "Invincible" so don't need it? How
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 01:19 PM
Nov 2013

about poor young minorities? The White House is going to launch an outreach campaign to them. We MUST get them to sign up. I know CA is already have expected difficulties getting Latinos to sign up. We MUST get these folks IN.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
5. Good question
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 02:38 PM
Nov 2013

It's not really something that I ever really debated about when I was getting out of College and into my first-time job. I immediately got enrolled in health insurance (and it was really good- and cheap- too) when I got my first full-time job after College (ca. 1999) because I believed that it was the, well, responsible thing to do. My parents always had health insurance coverage and it never crossed my mind to not have it. I imagine that, with the economy being what it is now and with good-paying jobs hard to find, it's harder to motivate young adults whom are scrimping to get by to shell out money for yet another expense. OTOH many of those young adults will now still qualify for health insurance coverage under their parents, so, really, many of them won't have to sign up until they are older than 26.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
6. True, but what if parents are on Medicaid or Medicare or don't have insurance themselves?
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:49 PM
Nov 2013

And it is getting young, lower-income minority group folks to sign up. That is the big target audience. Some will qualify for Medicaid.
Many others for subsidies. But yes, for some it will be another expense at least to some degree. But we NEED those young healthy folks in the system and on a plan of some kind.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
8. No, we don't
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 07:43 PM
Nov 2013

The system is designed to provide a means for people not able to get insurance thru the employer system to get insurance.

Those 40 million.

I know there will be a lot of boneheads (how many?) who think they can make it without insurance but they will change.

You are falling for the bullshit argument. Without a larger percentage of healthy insured the rates might be a little higher but not enough to skew the thing. It's an attempt to undermine the whole thing by bringing up some tiny percent "but what about?" Just like the bullshit about the crap policies.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
7. Perhaps that's a hurdle, perhap not.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 06:56 PM
Nov 2013

I know it's been a big talking point from the opposition but I think that it might be just that -- a talking point. The opposition has set all these artificial goals that we might use to measure the success or failure of the program but I think they are bullshit.

If we were trying to make it fiscally sound from an actuarial measurement as an insurance company might, perhaps so. But I believe the system will succeed because so many cannot afford not to be in the program. The penalty enough will cover the costs.

F' the opposition. They are losing. And they know it.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
9. Why? In California, Young People Are Enrolling Fine
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 11:10 PM
Nov 2013

The idea that folks under 30 will not enroll is just a weird talking point when in California, the data shows that young people are enrolling at a level proportionate to their demographics.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
10. My daughter has successfully signed up for Obamacare.
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 02:59 AM
Nov 2013

With the available subsidies the premium is about $100 a month for very good coverage. Right now she has only catastrophic coverage through her temp agency that costs the same. Starting Jan. 1st she'll have a good health care policy that's affordable for her.

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