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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 11:06 PM Dec 2013

Bye-bye, fake liberals: The Warren Democrats are winning!


The backlash against an inane Op-Ed bashing Elizabeth Warren shows that “economic populism” is the way forward

JOAN WALSH


I am very late to the Third Way-trashing party, but that’s a story in itself. I didn’t need to weigh in; progressives erupted in immediate backlash at the group’s latest attack on “economic populism.”

By now everyone knows that http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304337404579213923151169790 and New York’s Mayor-elect Bill De Blasio in the Wall Street Journal Tuesday, arguing that their “economic populism” was a “dead end” outside of the midnight-blue communards of Massachusetts and New York City.

Not only was Third Way’s argument immediately and widely debunked – Salon’s Elias Isquith did it very well here – but its domination by Wall Street became an issue in itself, thanks to folks at Daily Kos and the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. Warren herself responded by asking Wall Street CEOs to voluntarily disclose their think tank funding – without mentioning Third Way by name – suggesting it amounted to “little more than another form of corporate lobbying.”

And by Wednesday evening centrist Pennsylvania Rep. Alison Schwartz, a Third Way co-chair who’s running for governor next year, had disavowed the group’s attempted takedown of her party’s populist wing, calling it “outrageous.” (Update: Thursday afternoon another co-chair, Rep. Joe Crowley, joined Schwartz.)

full article
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/05/bye_bye_fake_liberals_the_warren_democrats_are_winning/
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Bye-bye, fake liberals: The Warren Democrats are winning! (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2013 OP
yay for the Elizabethans! Whisp Dec 2013 #1
Go Sen Warren!! Support the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #2
K&R abelenkpe Dec 2013 #3
Corporate Schmoroate.. Cha Dec 2013 #4
Go Warren! freshwest Dec 2013 #5
And I will continue to call them out Phlem Dec 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author PBass Dec 2013 #7
So glad to hear this! Thanks for the link, bookmarked for later Populist_Prole Dec 2013 #8
The Wall Street Journal. Ahhhhh ha ha ha ha. geckosfeet Dec 2013 #9
well put people back to work and the problem is solved. madrchsod Dec 2013 #11
The people that run/own/direct the WSJ would have us fighting eachother for $8/hr geckosfeet Dec 2013 #12
great...but is she going to run madrchsod Dec 2013 #10
DLC morphed in to Third Way when the Kochs were discovered behind it... What's next for Third Way? cascadiance Dec 2013 #13
Fuck these assholes mrgorth Dec 2013 #14
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
1. yay for the Elizabethans!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 11:22 PM
Dec 2013

The Comfortables don't like her or her message. I am very happy they were told off right and good.

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geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
9. The Wall Street Journal. Ahhhhh ha ha ha ha.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 01:49 AM
Dec 2013

Social Security is exhibit A of this populist political and economic fantasy. A growing cascade of baby boomers will be retiring in the coming years, and the Social Security formula increases their initial benefits faster than inflation. The problem is that since 2010 Social Security payouts to seniors have exceeded payroll taxes collected from workers. This imbalance widens inexorably until it devours the entire Social Security Trust Fund in 2031, according to the Congressional Budget Office. At that point, benefits would have to be slashed by about 23%.

Undeterred by this undebatable solvency crisis, Sen. Warren wants to increase benefits to all seniors, including billionaires, and to pay for them by increasing taxes on working people and their employers. Her approach requires a $750 billion tax hike over the next 10 years that hits mostly Millennials and Gen Xers, plus another $750 billion tax on the businesses that employ them.


Doing what they get paid to do - driving wedges through the Democratic party.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
11. well put people back to work and the problem is solved.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:01 AM
Dec 2013

well raise the deductions well past the today`s cut off.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
12. The people that run/own/direct the WSJ would have us fighting eachother for $8/hr
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:25 AM
Dec 2013

jobs, and they would remove all payroll taxes for people making more than that. SS would be moot at that point because working people would not be able to afford to pay into it at $8/hr and they would start begging their "elected" representatives to abolish it.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
10. great...but is she going to run
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 01:59 AM
Dec 2013

or is she going to get enough people behind her to find a real democratic candidate?

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
13. DLC morphed in to Third Way when the Kochs were discovered behind it... What's next for Third Way?
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:29 PM
Dec 2013

Will it die similarly and another entity replace it in the same fashion...

Kind of like Black Water now is "Xe", and Diebold is now "Premier Election Systems"... So many of these guys change their names when they're discovered and people understand more what kind of crap is behind them! Watch for ALEC to be changing soon as well!

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