Anti-Obamacare Doctors Pledge To Fight Against Creeping Socialism

[DonViejo]

DYLAN SCOTT – DECEMBER 6, 2013, 6:00 AM EST

Jane Orient, a physician in Tuscon, Ariz., says she's never accepted a dollar of third-party medical payments, whether from a government program or a private insurance company. She has a "philosophical and ethical" opposition to the U.S. health care infrastructure, and she's put it into practice for more than 20 years.

But with Obamacare set to take full effect in January, Orient says more and more physicians are joining with her in opting out of a payment system that she describes as co-opted by "insurance cartels" and the nanny state.

Orient is the executive director of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, a free-market group that claims 4,000 members nationwide, including Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY). Paul himself hasn't endorsed physicians pulling out of the third-party system, but he has said that if a "right to health care" is invoked, then doctors could be conscripted against their will.

"It means you believe in slavery," Paul said in a clip from a Senate committee hearing posted by the AAPS YouTube account.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/anti-obamacare-doctors-creeping-socialism

[newfie11]

1. So let them die

Before accepting government money.
Not a doctor I want to ever see!

[lostincalifornia]

2. The people that will see those doctors who opt out will be affluent types, because most likely

others would not be able to afford their prices

[newfie11]

3. Exactly. Nt

[otohara]

4. My GP Sent Letter Saying Please Buy Supplemental

to Medicare patients.

He just bought a new Porsche.

[1StrongBlackMan]

5. Funny this ...

Dr. Orient has never accepted third-party payment in her practice, which mainly provides consultation and second opinions. - : http://samaritanministries.org/member-spotlight-dr-jane-orient/#sthash.VEpT5mlc.dpuf

She opposes 3rd Party payments for medical treatments and patient care ... but she, herself, provides no (few) medical treatments or patient care ... she just second guesses those that do.

I know that second opinions can be a valuable service, but complaining about "rationing" of healthcare treatments AND opposing the mechanism that 99% of healthcare consumers use to pay for healthcare sound a bit ... randian to me.

I can imagine listening in on her "consultations":

Yeah, I'm glad you agree that all 3rd-Party payment schemes are from the devil.

Now ... about your condition, your "insurance accepting" primary care physician is absolutely wrong. It would be a mistake to try and control your condition with diet and exercise, first ... no, you need to be put on {some drug} or must have immediate surgery!

What? ... How much would that cost? Well ... it's been a while since I've actually provided direct patient care so I really don't know. But I guess the drug would be about $1,000/mth and the surgery ... well, probably a couple $100,000.

What? ... How are you going to pay for it without insurance? Well ... I don't know ... I'm just philosophical and ethical opposed to the U.S. health care infrastructure.

Why should she care HOW the doctor that actually provides care gets paid?

[yellowcanine]

6. "right to health care" So Rand does not endorse the Hippocratic Oath?

Seems to me that all physicians accept the "right to health care." And FWIW, yes, the Selective Service Act does provide for conscription of doctors and nursers in the event of a national health care emergency such as an epidemic. Choke on that Rand.

[Aristus]

7. Fuck those assholes!

Some of us got in to medicine to help people.

Go find something else to do, you posers! We medical providers have work to do. Stay out of our way...

[greymattermom]

8. that can't be true

all US medical schools are supported by NIH, medicare and other federal programs. Faculty at US medical schools get part of their salaries from NIH, medicare funding and many other programs. State supported US medical schools get state funding. She couldn't have become a doctor in the first place without government funding. I'd like to see a completely private hospital too. It wouldn't have any residency programs.