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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:35 AM Jan 2014

Rachel Maddows will not back down from Koch Brothers attack machine

No matter how hard they try, Rachel Maddow is not going to read the Koch Brothers' script.

Here's how this whole thing started. In late December, Rachel did a segment on how the Kochs buy their economic studies reinforcing conservative ideas. They do this by donating huge sums to universities and demanding the right to hire faculty who think like they do. That report is here.

Apparently the Kochs didn't appreciate her reporting, because for some bizarre reason they don't mind throwing billions around the political universe but shy away from receiving credit for it. So they had their lawyers send Rachel a letter, and boy was it a doozy, as you'll see in the segment. It included a demand that she read a prepared script by the lawyers retracting her report and apologizing for it.

She did not apologize. I believe her exact words were "I will not renounce or retract reporting that is true, even if the subjects of that reporting don't like it." As for the script, she let them know she does "not read scripts provided to me by anyone else. I don't do requests."

She also reminded them that if they don't like it when the truth is brought to light, they should just stop doing those things that generate attention.

The only thing she forgot was the part where she informed her audience that the Kochs are a couple of libertarian thugs with big wallets and emptier heads. The only thing bigger than their own egos might be their bank accounts.

- See more at: http://crooksandliars.com/2014/01/rachel-maddows-epic-koch-brothers#sthash.JzL5aO1n.dpuf

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/01/rachel-maddows-epic-koch-brothers

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Rachel Maddows will not back down from Koch Brothers attack machine (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jan 2014 OP
I love Rachel sooooooooooo much! Lint Head Jan 2014 #1
Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #2
Thanks, so awesome. k&r nilram Jan 2014 #3
K 'n R JohnnyRingo Jan 2014 #4
Here's hoping they try this on Jon Stewart. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #5
Oh Gawd! I want a ring side seat for that. n/t Cleita Jan 2014 #27
Besides her steadfast reporting I love that she often finds new angles to popular news items. Kablooie Jan 2014 #6
Yes. She is like one of those great teachers who bring wisdom. patience and those special JDPriestly Jan 2014 #12
She also carefully researches her details before presenting them. Kablooie Jan 2014 #13
Go Rachel! defacto7 Jan 2014 #7
Love Rachel but.... EileenFB Jan 2014 #8
She was amazing tonight. She totally baited them last night. SunSeeker Jan 2014 #9
The latest xxqqqzme Jan 2014 #10
She always has her facts! oldandhappy Jan 2014 #11
I expect to see the Koch boots kicking around MSNBC and NBC and anywhere annabanana Jan 2014 #14
Here's hoping they try to sue her for "slander"... farmbo Jan 2014 #15
Dear Rachel, imthevicar Jan 2014 #16
If MSNBC someday decides Rachel is no longer a fit rurallib Jan 2014 #17
You can put your suspicions to rest for now DFW Jan 2014 #19
That Sounds Great Except... Leith Jan 2014 #22
Point taken DFW Jan 2014 #25
Or have her run for Congress? GreenPartyVoter Jan 2014 #32
Rachel was great last night Gothmog Jan 2014 #18
However, there are plenty of people that can't understand the meaning of "no". TexasTowelie Jan 2014 #39
I'm not a fan of hers openfield Jan 2014 #20
Tell us why you aren't a fan. Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #21
10 more of Maddow??? Lord! Stuckinthebush Jan 2014 #24
It would be sweet if she could massage this into one of her commercials for MSNBC. winter is coming Jan 2014 #23
If all of MSM were like her we would be far into the future than koch crap. I'm pleased RKP5637 Jan 2014 #26
Wow! She's awesome! JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #28
Rachel Maddow will not be silenced. Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #29
It must gall those old geezer crook bastards that they can't intimidate her. catbyte Jan 2014 #30
She should be in the U. S. Senate. another_liberal Jan 2014 #36
No doubt about it, she & Elizabeth Warren together would be a force to be catbyte Jan 2014 #37
+1 tofuandbeer Jan 2014 #38
NOthing uglier than a whining Cha Jan 2014 #31
Guys and gals... Hypocrisy ALERT! TRoN33 Jan 2014 #33
This is just one more attack on MSNBC; greiner3 Jan 2014 #34
I will sign a petition in support of her. another_liberal Jan 2014 #35

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
6. Besides her steadfast reporting I love that she often finds new angles to popular news items.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 03:28 AM
Jan 2014

You will hear the same thing over and over on other news shows but when she comes on the air she will usually have some background info that isn't being reported by other news sources.

It is genuine informative journalism.
Something that is very rare in today's media outlets.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. Yes. She is like one of those great teachers who bring wisdom. patience and those special
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 04:19 AM
Jan 2014

details that show you why and how events happened. She doesn't just tell you her opinion. She lets you know the facts that reveal why her opinion is right.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
13. She also carefully researches her details before presenting them.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 04:41 AM
Jan 2014

And will alway offer an apology or retraction if she discovers something was reported in error.

Her kind of honest journalism seems rare in today's tabloid and propaganda laced media.
It's kind of amazing that MSNBC allows her to do this.
The media moguls today usually stick their fingers into the news departments and muddy them up.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
9. She was amazing tonight. She totally baited them last night.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 03:52 AM
Jan 2014

And the Kochs were stupid and arrogant enough to bite instead of ignore her. Well played, Ms. Maddow.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
10. The latest
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 04:04 AM
Jan 2014

dust up w/ the kochs was her report last night over the failure of the drug testing of persons applying for assistance and the District Court ruling that Florida has to cease the testing. Last night she interviewed an ACLU representative beginning w/ her usual 'did I get anything wrong lead'. As the interview concluded, as his sound was being cut, he blurted out, "There's an error". (the error was Rachel said it was a Federal Court ruling) So today was the 'outrage' by the kochs calling her on her error and the insistence that she read their prepared script.

I guess until the kochs own their own 'news' outlet, they will just have to be happy w/ Rachel calling the shots, if M$NBC allows it. They validated the permafrost princess's Obamacare just like slavery ignorance by firing Martin Bashir. The kochs have mountains of more money to go after Rachel.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
14. I expect to see the Koch boots kicking around MSNBC and NBC and anywhere
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 09:26 AM
Jan 2014

else they think they can buy leverage.

farmbo

(3,122 posts)
15. Here's hoping they try to sue her for "slander"...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 09:52 AM
Jan 2014

Since truth is a defense in a slander case, and Rachael would be entitled to broad discovery into their "dark money" financial dealings, that would be the greatest outcome possible.

Heck, if necessary we'll crowd source her defense and throw in a counterclaim along the way. She'll have 3 years of new stories on the vast RW conspiracy they oversee.

Even the Koch's aren't that dumb. This is a rank attempt at prior restraint.

They're just Bullies and cowards who have sic'd their lawyers on Rachael to try get her to pull her punches.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
17. If MSNBC someday decides Rachel is no longer a fit
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jan 2014

and I suspect that day gets closer all the time ........
remember there is Free Speech TV. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have an hour of Rachel with no commercials?

DFW

(54,397 posts)
19. You can put your suspicions to rest for now
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 11:43 AM
Jan 2014

I was at a gathering with MSNBC's Krystal Ball for four days over New Year's, and she said that MSNBC considers Rachel to be their star, their flagship and their standard bearer. We have more to fear from the Kochs engineering a gas leak explosion in her apartment building than we do from MSNBC ditching their biggest breadwinner.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
22. That Sounds Great Except...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jan 2014

so were Keith Olbermann and Phil Donahue.

Did I hear recently that the highest rated news/opinion show was Hardball with Chris Matthews?

Stand by for more to come in this story. It ain't over yet.

DFW

(54,397 posts)
25. Point taken
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 04:43 PM
Jan 2014

I don't get U.S. TV anyway, so all of what I see is just from links to clips that people send me.

However, I figure Krystal, working there full time, probably knows what is going on. We are going to try to get together while I'm in New York, maybe even at 30 Rock before or after her show, and I'll learn more. My hotel is about a ten minute walk from there. I wouldn't mind hanging with Rachel for a few, either

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
18. Rachel was great last night
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jan 2014

Rachel likes to stand up to lawyers.

As a lawyer, the Kochs were poorly represented if a any lawyer told them that they had a chance of convincing Rachel Maddow to read their script. A good lawyer should have been able to convince their client to be reasonable in their demand.

TexasTowelie

(112,217 posts)
39. However, there are plenty of people that can't understand the meaning of "no".
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 08:56 AM
Jan 2014

You can't blame the Koch's lawyers when their clients are obstinate assholes.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
23. It would be sweet if she could massage this into one of her commercials for MSNBC.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jan 2014

The additional exposure would make the Koch brothers' heads explode.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
26. If all of MSM were like her we would be far into the future than koch crap. I'm pleased
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jan 2014

more are seeing what these jerks are about. Yes, they are thugs and of the worst kind.

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
30. It must gall those old geezer crook bastards that they can't intimidate her.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:44 PM
Jan 2014

Rachel is a national treasure & a hero.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
36. She should be in the U. S. Senate.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 09:50 PM
Jan 2014

No doubt in my mind that she is qualified. It would be awful to lose her show, but I would make that sacrifice.

Cha

(297,274 posts)
31. NOthing uglier than a whining
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jan 2014

Koch except maybe two of them.

Now because of their whining their sneaky crap is getting more Exposed.. thanks Kochs.

Thank you, Rachel!

Thank you, UCmeNdc

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
33. Guys and gals... Hypocrisy ALERT!
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:17 PM
Jan 2014

Did you all know that Koch brothers were the main driving force that pushed for Supreme Court to allow news to lie during live air? This ruling was designed for the Fox News' bullshot on milk's impact on health. Rupert couldn't had done it if he didn't received the hep by Koch brothers.

Now if Koch brothers doesn't like what Rachel Maddow said about their shady businesses, then they should reconsider that bullshot ruling by Supreme Court.

For Koch brothers, hypocrisy works in all of the directions from their own center of their own universe. The worse part? They already show the obvious sign that they want to be the gods of this world.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
34. This is just one more attack on MSNBC;
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 09:16 PM
Jan 2014

And a few of them are being all but cheered by some on this board.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
35. I will sign a petition in support of her.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jan 2014

If things get rough and she establishes a defense fund, I will donate.

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