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peoli

(3,111 posts)
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 02:12 AM Jan 2014

Do you think ECOCIDE should be part of the Democratic platform? POLL:

Check this out:

There is a citizens initiative in Europe to make Ecocide a punishable crime:
http://www.endecocide.eu/?lang=en

Great article by The Guardian about Ecocide:
http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/blog/vivienne-westwood-law-ecocide-european

"That ecocide – the destruction of ecosystems – is even a concept bespeaks a momentous change in industrial civilisation's relationship to the planet. To kill something, like Earth, presupposes that it is even alive in the first place. Today we are beginning to see the planet and all its subsystems as beings deserving of life, and no longer mere resource piles and waste dumps. As the realisation grows that we are part of an interdependent, living planet, concepts such as "rights of nature" and "law of ecocide" will become common sense."

This is an amazing website. A Global Initiative to Eradicate Ecocide:
http://eradicatingecocide.com/

Did you know that

"The concept of Ecocide has been around since the 1970s. Making Ecocide a Crime Against Peace was examined within the UN for decades throughout the 1970s – 1990s. It was shelved last minute in 1996 without being put to the vote and despite a number of countries objecting to its exclusion. Ecocide really is the missing 5th Crime Against Peace." ?



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Do you think ECOCIDE should be part of the Democratic platform? POLL: (Original Post) peoli Jan 2014 OP
The Earth is a big terrarium and we are shitting where we eat, to coin a phrase. Dustlawyer Jan 2014 #1
Ecocide is being committed everyday at all corners of our planet. democratisphere Jan 2014 #2
This where the concept betrays itself as more woo CFLDem Jan 2014 #3
There would be a transition. peoli Jan 2014 #4
Let's K&R this so the MSM sees it! peoli Jan 2014 #5
No, of course not, don't be so silly. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #6
Thanks for responding but... peoli Jan 2014 #7

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
1. The Earth is a big terrarium and we are shitting where we eat, to coin a phrase.
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 04:13 AM
Jan 2014

You aren't supposed to do that. I guess some (most) peoples idea of how big, or small this place really is happens to be way off!

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. Ecocide is being committed everyday at all corners of our planet.
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 05:41 AM
Jan 2014

If we don't stop the irreversible destruction of OUR LIFE SUPPORT ECOSYSTEMS, humans and many other species will cease to exist!! It is a crime and we will be punished to extinction.

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
3. This where the concept betrays itself as more woo
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 09:17 AM
Jan 2014
It is part of a transition to an economy with less throwaway stuff, and more things made with great care, more bikes and fewer cars, more gardens and fewer supermarkets, more leisure and less production, more recycling and fewer landfills, more sharing and less owning.


I think someone's been taking Avatar a little too seriously.

Americans love their cars, supermarkets, bottled water, and sense of economic division way too much for this to happen outside of San Francisco.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
6. No, of course not, don't be so silly.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 03:20 PM
Jan 2014

Only specific, clearly-defined acts should ever be criminalised. "Ecocide" is a made-up non-word, and far too general and vague to be criminalised.

Note that practically no country has laws against "genocide". What they have are laws against murder. And ecological legislation should follow the same principle.
 

peoli

(3,111 posts)
7. Thanks for responding but...
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 07:09 PM
Jan 2014

I don't really feel like you looked at any of the links with any sort of openness based on your response.

Ecocide is a word. It has a meaning. Having legal parameters to prosecute those who destroy ecosystems is not 'silly', but a necessary deterrent.

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