2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTomasky: Despite Their Loss In Florida’s Special Election, Democrats Shouldn’t Panic Over November
Apparently, Independents broke for Jolly at the last minute, responding to ads that painted Sink as a banker who fired workers and gave herself a bonus--from a NYT's reporter on Morning Joe earlier today. The district has over 170,000 registered Republicans compared to 159,000 or so Democrats.
While the defeat of Alex Sink in Floridas special election Tuesday night may be embarrassing for Democrats, they shouldnt panic and run away from the electoral benefits of Obamacare.
So here we go: Republicansand, no doubt, the Koch Brothersare crowing that David Jollys win over Alex Sink in the special election in Floridas 13th Congressional District Tuesday proves that Obamacare is the death knell for Democrats this fall. Outside groups, led by the Kochs, pumped a few million into the district, largely hitting Sink over Obamacare, which she said needed to be improved although she still trumpeted its benefits for senior citizens.
Perhaps the best evidence though that Obamacare wasnt a real issue came from Jolly himself, who didnt even mention the ACA in his victory speech. He told reporters later, This was a closely run race, we know that. I dont take a mandate from this.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/12/despite-their-loss-in-florida-s-special-election-democrats-shouldn-t-panic-over-november.html
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)Doesn't Jolly have to stand for re-election AGAIN in November? Sink could try again or the Dems can find somebody else to challenge him again in just a few months, right? And I'm sure that he'll have an opportunity to do or say something embarrassing too.
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)Check out this DU post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251356938#post3
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)At any rate, this other person could still jump back in for November, right?
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)Maybe she should throw in the towel at this point (though I don't know much about her). Dems don't usually like to run *losers* over and over again but I hope that Jolly doesn't run unopposed since he might easily get picked off. He'll have some time to embarrass himself while in the House (and even less time for people to remember) and the odds of him casting a questionable vote and/or saying something stupid/tone deaf seem pretty high if you're a Republican.
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)Democratic leaders, particularly the President, need to convince Democrats of the importance of voting in mid-term elections. With a heavy Democratic turnout Sink, or another Dem, could win in November.
XiaomuWave
(18 posts)Almost every single midterm for the last hundred years has been bad for the party in charge. Thats just the way it is.
However, it wont mean anything for ACA since they need the Presidency for a repeal. Legislatively the House isnt doing anything already anyway, so not much changes here either. They can do nothing even more efficiently!
beerandjesus
(1,301 posts)"Theres other evidence out there in the world that Obamacare is a political disaster only if the Democrats dont fight for it."
Well, how bout that!
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)The Republicans in the House apparently have some "fixes" on the table in the House- apparently with bipartisan support- that I'd want to carefully scrutinize before being signed into law. Of course, where were they in 2009-2010 while this was all being hammered out?
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)jerryster
(715 posts)With the exception of Alan Grayson, probably not. The only thing they'll focus on is the fact that Sink lost. Be prepared for a lot of Democratic candidates to run like hell from the ACA. They'll talk about " fixing EVERYTHING that's wrong with it. Translation: They'll be saying the everything IS wrong with it. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised at all if some go as far as promising to join the RepubliKochs to vote for repeal in the next session.