2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Democrats and Republicans Alike Love to See Elizabeth Warren on the Campaign Trail
Republican or Democrat, everyone wants Elizabeth Warren to hit the campaign trail - but for different reasons.
Today is a big day on the 2014 trail in West Virginia, with both Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., stumping for GOP Senate candidate Shelley Moore Capito and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., campaigning with Democratic Senate candidate Natalie Tennant. It's Warren, though, who has both sides excited about her trip - and this isn't the first time Warren has sparked bipartisan hubbub with a foray into a competitive race.
She's popping up in red states, where Republicans paint Warren (and whoever she may be stumping with) as anti-coal liberals, but that hasn't stopped her from being hotly requested on the Democratic campaign trail for 2014 candidates. Most recently she stumped with Kentucky Democratic Senate nominee Alison Lundergan Grimes last month, raising over $200,000 for her campaign at a fundraiser.
http://news.yahoo.com/why-democrats-republicans-alike-love-see-elizabeth-warren-191152635--abc-news-politics.html
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Strat54
(58 posts)Sen. Warren has the message that broadens the Democratic electorate. Sec. Clinton has the DLC/Third Way message of Neo-Liberalism. Hopefully, Sen. Warren can at least pull Hillary back to the center (Hillary reflexively leans to the corporate-right of the Democratic Party.)
I'm not over selling Sen. Warren either. She is no economic nutjob, like a Tancredo or Brownback. She is from the more fiscally responsible, Jerry Brown wing of the Democratic Party.
I like Sen. Elizabeth Warren!! I hope she can do good things and influence the party in general.
...and before I get booed off stage....
Sen. Warren, at this point before the 2016 election, has just as much Fed. Gov. experience as one Sen. Barack Obama did at this time.
Don't let them tell you that you always have to pick the corporate, "Safe" Democrat!! Some of our best and most successful picks have been bold ones.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... since she would simply move back to the right if elected.
We need someone left-of-center, particularly on financial issues, and this is where EW seperates herself from the pack.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Then the excuse from her enablers would be, "well, she has to compromise to keep Wall Street and the Republicans happy during her first term so she can raise the funds and get the votes to be elected for a second term. But, boy howdy, just wait until that SECOND term! Then she'll keep all those progressive campaign promises."
Been there. Done that. No thanks!
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Seriously....being president in this country has been reduced to a ceremonial title in all but the first year and potentially the third year of the first term.
People spend anywhere from 2 to 6 years campaigning and being coy about running for the job...then they get to the first term and IF we are lucky they can focus on a signature piece of legislation (mind you it will be ONE piece of legislation) and after that bloody fight produces something, they go immediately into "Mid-term election mode" (which means NOTHING will get passed at all)...after the president's party (predictably) has their ass handed to them by the ill-informed, lazy and quite possibly stupid electorate of this country, they then retreat into a defensive shell for their "re-election hopes"...
WHY FUCKING BOTHER?
What meaningful legislation has been passed since 2013? What's on the horizon? Already everyone has moved on to the 2014 and 2016 elections, as if the future governments are going to be better than the current one...
We need to fix this gridlocked and increasingly inactive money grab of a government to break the stranglehold of the 1% or it simply does not matter one fucking iota who is in the Oval Office any more than it matters if I wear the blue socks or the black ones this morning...
The speaker of the house has far more power then a president ever will.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)" Hillary reflexively leans to the corporate-right of the Democratic Party.)"
Hillary is so Goldman Sachs I wouldn't be surprised if she picks Lloyd Blankfein as her running mate.
-90% Jimmy
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)We're researching Warren's past, and I'm sure we'll find things that will make America's hair curl. For example, one of our operatives found a neighbor from her days in Texas who might have seen boxes in her garage. Once we get confirmation of this, that difficult woman will be wishing she was in Russia with Moscow Eddie.
Then Democrats will turn back to Hillary, a proven Liberal, a proven fighter, and a proven winner. No need to look those up, just trust me, OK?
Regards,
TWM
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)No amount of machinations by that Massachusetts minx are going to change that.
Keep the faith, Third Way Manny!
Hail and Farewell!
90-percent
(6,829 posts)she lives in a five million dollar mansion.
i heard it from my conservative pals on FB.
and i really do want to do a oppo research column on DU, as soon as I figure out how I can pull it off without being tried for being a right wing troll.
-90% Jimmy
fbc
(1,668 posts)Who exactly supports Hillary anyway?
Is there actually a large contingent of Democrats who think politicians should take their orders from Wall Street?
Or, more likely, is there a large group of Democrats who just accept whoever the media names as the frontrunner?
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)It would force Democrats to start acting like New Deal Democrats again and make the Republican's true colors crystal clear to average Americans. Warren or Sanders 2016!
mountain grammy
(26,622 posts)but he has stubbornly refused to change his affiliation, probably just to annoy me. The last Republican he voted for was Reagan, and he regrets that one. Well, Warren voted for Reagan too.
Imagine my surprise when he said he wanted to buy Warren's book. He was watching her do an interview on some show and he's completely hooked. First, he said, he could understand everything she said, and second he agreed with everything she said.
She gets though to people. Warren is the anti fox.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... that champions issues such as bankster accountability that the grass roots of both parties and independents all want, even if the 1%ers are trying to control both parties to avoid those issues where they exploit the rest of us and try to define their own candidates as the "moderate" candidates that are anything but "moderate" but *corporatist* wolves in sheep's clothing! Ralph Nader highlights this in his new book "UnStoppable"...
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/02/ralph_nader_the_left_is_seized_by_fear_and_the_right_is_driven_by_brass/
At some point when the 1%ers reach too much and screw enough of us on both sides so that all of us are living paycheck to paycheck or worse (and that statistic recently has grabbed myself and many others I know too), they will realize that even if we disagree on many issues, we need to unite to vote in people that don't support those that continue to perpetuate the cancerous corporatist tumor that continues to kill this country now, and once we do that we can both work out our differences later with those that represent us and not those that just are representing the likes of the Kochs, Adelsons, and the Walmart family.