“An Ineffective and Gutless Presidency"

[busterbrown]

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From Salon. Com
written by Thomas Frank.


Gutless? Ineffective? The two words that Frank thinks will describe Obama’s Legacy?..

Perhaps there are elements of truth in this article.. But i feel that our President has overcome
a shit load of hate based obstruction from Republicans all across our nation’s political landscape and he did a hell of a job carefully navigating this almost impossible situation..

Hey Frank... How about now writing a detailed article describing exactly in detail how Republican/teabaggers did everything in their power to bring our country down using the Race Card as its number one" go to “ strategy???...

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/20/right_wing_obstruction_could_have_been_fought_an_ineffective_and_gutless_presidencys_legacy_is_failure/

[Igel]

1. There have been calls for making

any statement that Putin or Russia bears any responsibility for the downing of MH17 a prosecutable criminal offense against Russia. To be enforced by Russia no matter where the statement is made.

Not quite there yet.

Don't like it, don't pay attention to it.

[LSparkle]

2. If only he hadn't tried so hard to "play nice" with the Rethugs ...

Ordinarily I would disagree but in this case, I think he bent over backwards to woo the GOP ... and forgot about his base.

If he had been bold about the stimulus, fully backed EFCA, included a public option on healthcare ... maybe he wouldn't have gotten everything through but he would have been seen as BOLD and I for one would have given him a blank check for anything else he wanted to do. Instead, when he needed support from people like me to fight the Rethugs, I wasn't full-throatedly behind him because of his previous caves. Now he needs his base more than ever but I fear many like me are just tired of fighting the little battles when he hasn't been there for us on the big things.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

3. The title to that article doesn't even agree with the text of the article.

And imo, the title is flat out wrong.

[busterbrown]

9. “Huh"

“Right Wing Obstruction could have been fought”
“An ineffective and gutless presidency is failure”


“We were promised hope and change....We got no vision and less action”

Bullshit!!!

[samsingh]

4. how about talking about the george w bush regime that allowed a terrorist attack on US soil despite

many warnings, then proceeded to scare the crap out of countries after the US started wars for oil.

[Herself]

12. I know where I was on 9/11.

I lived on Long Island, I was 140 miles from home, 1 hour out of NYC.

I lived the daily fire fighters funerals. I will never forget the smell of NYC and the fires.

I won't forget gw bush in his bug light year suit claiming victory on board the USS Lincoln, and all the lives that were lost since.

Veterans continue to die from neglect and REPUBLICAN OBSTRUCTION!

Tea tards and the house won't fund VA budgets unless their butt buddies in the administrative ex offices get their bonuses. They can't fix VA problems they created in 1980 , but they can find 200 billion for corp tax cuts.

Any teatard that would like a copy of my finger prints, I'll be glad to imbed them on the skin around your neck. My personal gift.

[samsingh]

18. and he had good chuckles on 60 minutes afterwards

about how uncomfortable he and his wife were that day while thousands of Americans died

and he was reelected by the incredibly stupid 40% of the population

the 40% that would vote repug even if jack the ripper was running - which may not be that far off the mark considering what has run for the un-American party

[factsarenotfair]

5. Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!

"...
Perhaps there will be an architectural solution for this problem. For example, the Obama museum’s designers could make the exhibit on the movement into a kind of blind alley that physically reminds visitors of the basic doctrine of the Democratic Party’s leadership faction: that liberals have nowhere else to go.

My own preference would be to let that disillusionment run, to let it guide the entire design of the Obama museum. Disillusionment is, after all, a far more representative emotion of our times than Beltway satisfaction over the stability of some imaginary “center.” So why not memorialize it? My suggestion to the designers of the complex: That the Obama Presidential Library be designed as a kind of cenotaph, a mausoleum of hope."

[Frustratedlady]

6. I don't think any of us could have gotten out of bed, day after day after day...

to be subjected to the bullies like Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, Issa, and their ilk, let alone come face to face with a brick wall called Republican obstruction.

Nothing cowardly about the way he has faced the opposition. My gut would be so twisted and torn up, knowing these assholes were so filled with hate for me, I couldn't have gone as far as he has gone...and, with a smile.

As far as I'm concerned, the Republican congresscritters should be charged with treason. They have made the United States a joke in the eyes of the world. They have done everything in their power to degrade and weaken this administration AND, in the process, this country. Their 24/7 media machine should hide in shame for abetting their idiotic shenanigans. I can only hope and pray that there are enough sane people in this country to vote their carcasses out of office and out of power, come November and 2016. If we're still around, that is.

[busterbrown]

8. Exactly!!! n/t

[cilla4progress]

7. They are stuck in an old, anachronistic mindset

Where the US swoops in to resolve (or inflame) every international flare-up.

It isn't that Obama can't or is afraid to...this is his approach: lead from behind, indeed - intentionally!

I for one, and most Americans, support this.

[elleng]

10. 5 Years of Obama, Timeline:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152419523414610&set=a.463344454609.247808.330873359609&type=1&fref=nf

[blkmusclmachine]

11. Is Obama still playing bi-partisan patty-cakes with the thugs in the GOPee???

[Herself]

14. NO, and that is what has their panties in a twist.

patti cakes ?

Not when the gop is on it's 9th benghazi investigation robbing millions from tax payer dollars that would address Veterans issues.

I'm a Vet, I'm one swimming the sea of red tape.

When I VOLUNTEERED I signed a contract. This country and every citizen in it signed it with me!

[sendero]

13. Obama is a "people pleaser".

.... who doesn't like conflict. It is not a good attribute for an actual leader.

He's stepped up his rhetoric in the last year or so, but at this point it is too little too late.

His legacy will be that he inherited a disastrous economic depression, and proceeded to do very little about it, squandering any advantage he might have had early on trying to win a charm offensive against the GOP.

It didn't work and so here we are, in the middle of a bogus "recovery" that will, in hindsight a few years from now, look like a curios case of someone fiddling while the country burns.

[Rex]

15. Sounds like something John McCain would say.

[DFW]

16. I am SOOOOOOOO sick of this tactic

No matter WHAT differences I might have with some of his policies or decisions......

From day one--not figuratively, but literally--the Republicans have been trying to shoot him in both knees, and then they call him ineffective because he didn't win the hundred yard dash. Bush was given a free ride in an air conditioned limo and STILL couldn't get as far as Obama did with bullets in both knees and the wind in his face.

I give the guy credit for what he has managed to do, all the while acknowledging the gap between what should have been and what could have been.

[busterbrown]

17. Hit the nail on the head! Thanks N/T

[Amonester]

19. That guy could post on DU every day... many times each day!

How about him writing a detailed article describing how either mcSame/palin or Rmoney/RLyan would have been effective at saving the world's economy, at not starting WW3 to enrich Darth Cheney & Co (again), and all that easy stuff of not being a dictator in a country where there is no Public-Funded Campaign Act (which is never discussed anywhere except on discussion sites, umm... occasionally)?