We are fucked.

[Old and In the Way]

When folks think Rand Paul will carry out a Democratic agenda....they are foolish. He'll be taking his marching orders from the NRA, the Republican/Koch establishment and that is all she wrote. We are doomed. Pot? No probl em...get as high as you want. Just don't get in the way of Republican progress. I would expect that we'll see new laws that limit Democrats from voting....you don't think that Republicans want a 2 Party system, do you?

[Scuba]

1. I don't believe there's any DU members who think that. I've not seen any posts that said that.

I'm sure some (many) traditional Democratic voters could fall for Paul's rhetoric, but I've not seen that here.

[Old and In the Way]

3. hope not Scuba...don't when we think Paul is left of Hillary, we are screwed.

Smart people here might understand t he diff, but the general public might not. IF Rand gets to pretend he's left of HRC, we may see the last GE where the Left/Democrats matter.

[Scuba]

5. It's up to the Democratic candidates to be far enough left so it's not confusing.

[840high]

7. True.

[Autumn]

2. Do you have a link to someone saying Rand Fucking Paul will carry out a Democratic agenda?

I keep asking but no one seems to have a link.

[Old and In the Way]

6. Not directly, but if you can make people believe he's more progressive than than the Democratic fron

Runner....Mission Accomplished.

[Autumn]

8. Democrats are going to vote for the Democratic nominee, like em or not.

The one's we need to worry about are the uninformed young voters and independents. They are the ones who will fall for his bullshit because he is appealing to them with what he is saying and they don't know him for what he is. If the Democratic leadership doesn't do something to appeal to them.. Mission Accomplished. But whose mission?

[JEB]

4. We don't need a shit stain like Rand Paul.

We need Democrats that are willing to be an opposition part to the corporate owned GOP. But we don't have much of that.

[ZombieHorde]

9. Back away from the ledge.

Some DUers are saying Paul is to the left of HRC on some issues, and some of these issues resonate with younger voters.

[Samantha]

10. I cannot even pretend to understand the fascination here with Rand Paul

He has zero depth.

Sam

[customerserviceguy]

11. The only reason would be

that he's seen as most likely to get the Rethug nomination. I think that's a rational assumption.

[MillennialDem]

12. He'll never get out of the primary

The whack job conservative base will not allow it to happen.

[ancianita]

14. You are SO right. But people are grasping at any veneer of vision he pretends to have. He's a liar.

[Sunlei]

15. republicans use the Pauls to gather votes. Old Paul they last second dumped him & got R votes.

Young Paul, this time republicans will use young-paul to reduce D votes.

RW is very good at changing a couple percent of votes here and there. It's always republicans who change district maps and gerrymander. The deception adds up to plenty of squeekers and sometimes wins.

Must be fun? to be so very, very wealthy one can turn an entire country into a political 'game'.

[MoleyRusselsWart]

16. They don't want

a system period. Just a police state, prisons, and courts to protect their businesses.

[Rhiannon12866]

17. No joke, but people only hear what they want to hear.

Rand Paul isn't even his father. That's why we need to GOTV this November! I've already made calls for my Democratic Congressional candidate. Great to see you, my friend!

[Old and In the Way]

21. Glad to.see you too!

Hope all is well in your world...best regards...one of my favorite DUers!!8

[Kablooie]

18. You don't have to disagree with someone 100% in order to be against them.

Nowadays most Republicans have absolutely insane views on just about everything so we forget that it hasn't always been that way.

Normally, in the past at least, there could be a few things we agreed on in the midst of a lot of things we didn't.

[muriel_volestrangler]

19. I think we are fucked because there's more talk about Rand Paul on DU than about 2014 elections

It's amazing. It's not necessarily surprising that there's not much 2014 election talk in GD - you'd expect Ferguson to dominate, and there are some international topics, like Ebola, Ukraine, Gaza, IS and so on that will come up a lot. But I thought it would all be in here. Being British, I don't look at the Politics 2014 forum much - the races this year just matter to me in terms of who gets control of the Senate (the House looks lost already - gerrymandering). But this forum has tumbleweed blowing through it. It has had under half the number of posts in it in the last 90 days that the Religion group has had. It's a minority interest group.

It seems DUers have lost interest in electoral politics expect for the presidential election. And I fear that will be symptomatic of Democratic activists in general.

[LiberalElite]

20. Don't worry about me-

I'd rather jump from a great height onto a bed of nails before I'd vote for that f***er.

[anti partisan]

22. What is a "Democratic agenda" anyway? You mean progressive?

I've never seen anyone say that Rand freaking Paul will carry out a progressive agenda.

But... neither will Hillary Clinton, that is the problem.

Rand Paul isn't the solution obviously (nobody is saying he is). the same people who are strawmanning those who correctly point out that Rand is on the right side of some issues - those same people also seem to be Hillary fans - go figure.