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I wonder how long it will take for McConnell to pass the nuclear option? (Original Post) HoosierRadical Nov 2014 OP
less then 30 days Nobel_Twaddle_III Nov 2014 #1
3 - 2 - 1 Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #2
The best way to defeat GOP terrorists is underthematrix Nov 2014 #3
I'm sick literally sick I don't even know how I will get to sleep tonight trublu992 Nov 2014 #4
I think they can only do that once per year. phleshdef Nov 2014 #5
At least two years FBaggins Nov 2014 #6
Make sense davidpdx Nov 2014 #7
The ACA fight will probably not be a veto FBaggins Nov 2014 #8
What ACA pieces do they agree with? jmowreader Nov 2014 #9
You mean he hasn't done it yet. kairos12 Nov 2014 #10

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
6. At least two years
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:23 AM
Nov 2014

It doesn't do any good to get rid of the filibuster if we hold the White House...

... nor are Senate Democrats likely to use it much since they would just be putting themselves out to keep the President from having to use a veto (when he isn't up for reelection and they are).

... lastly - they don't need to get rid of the filibuster for a large percentage of their agenda. They can just use the reconciliation rules.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
7. Make sense
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:49 AM
Nov 2014

Then again forcing Obama to veto stuff could be an option they try. They can now repeal the ACA in both the House and Senate and that would force Obama to veto it. I think it would backfire though.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
8. The ACA fight will probably not be a veto
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:59 AM
Nov 2014

At least... not directly.

Republicans can pass a budget through reconciliation (so it can't be filibustered) that fails to fund ACA pieces that they disagree with. The president won't have a "kill ACA" bill to veto, he'll be forced to threaten to shut down the government by not signing the budget.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
9. What ACA pieces do they agree with?
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:04 PM
Nov 2014

IIRC a "bill" doesn't have to be just about one thing, or even related things; they can slip all sorts of unrelated shit into any bill they want, with the caveat that a budget bill can only contain budgetary items. The White House needs to watch everything that comes across the transom; "P.L. 111-148 is hereby repealed in its entirety" will wind up in a LOT of bills coming out of this Congress, and Obama needs to veto every fucking one of them - with Brian Schweitzer's VETO branding iron, if that's what it takes to get the point across.

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