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BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:51 PM Nov 2014

Thanks a lot, Justice Ginsburg

You could have easily stepped down in 2013, when the Democrats still had control of the Senate. Pres. Obama could have appointed another justice with your ideals who was young and would have kept your seat in liberal hands for the next few decades. Now, the Senate is controlled by the same assholes who would lije for you to be replaced by another Samuel Alito or Clarence Thomas. And if the Repuucans recapture the White House in 2016, that's exactly who will replace you.

We, and our children will be paying the price for you stubbornness for the next half-century. How could you, Justice Ginsburg?

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Thanks a lot, Justice Ginsburg (Original Post) BlueDemKev Nov 2014 OP
Thanks Justice Ginsberg for doing the smart thing and staying sketchy Nov 2014 #1
The Democrats controlled the Senate? vi5 Nov 2014 #2
DUzy! merrily Nov 2014 #30
This. riqster Nov 2014 #31
They would have filibustered wryter2000 Nov 2014 #3
yep - heard that would be their strategy should Ginsburg resign rurallib Nov 2014 #36
And that would have given us anoter issue to run on this year FBaggins Nov 2014 #38
I genuinely do thank her... TDale313 Nov 2014 #4
+1 She's serving her country, and doing so admirably merrily Nov 2014 #29
The pukes would have filibustered sharp_stick Nov 2014 #5
They could not have filibustered for... BlueDemKev Nov 2014 #6
I think you underestimate people like Retrograde Nov 2014 #8
They would have needed 41 out of 45 of their senators... BlueDemKev Nov 2014 #11
50+ votes to repeal the ACA ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #13
Not for 3 1/2 years BlueDemKev Nov 2014 #17
I think you have an overly optimistic view of Repub thinking. riqster Nov 2014 #32
I doubt either of these two nitwits would actually win..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #40
And she knew that Mz Pip Nov 2014 #23
m'kay sure n/t sharp_stick Nov 2014 #37
Reid removed the filibuster on judicial appointments a year ago (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #24
But takakupo Nov 2014 #25
She'll be fine for another two years Fearless Nov 2014 #7
Are you kidding?? BlueDemKev Nov 2014 #12
And what if we lose in 2016??? tgards79 Nov 2014 #15
Can you change the past? Fearless Nov 2014 #18
... TBF Nov 2014 #9
Well! I was wondering when we'd find another target to beat up on... brooklynite Nov 2014 #10
I admire her greatly, BlueDemKev, and am glad she is on the Supreme Court. Hortensis Nov 2014 #14
I am too, but... BlueDemKev Nov 2014 #16
With you entirely as worst case, but optimistically hoping she'll be leading our own group of four. Hortensis Nov 2014 #19
Burn the witch!!!! JoePhilly Nov 2014 #20
Hope this is satire demwing Nov 2014 #21
I wish her good health. I hope she stays on the SC until she takes her last breath. politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2014 #22
This is stupid. bravenak Nov 2014 #26
Nope! longship Nov 2014 #27
Thank you, Justice Ginsburg for your leftist voice on a near insane SCOTUS. merrily Nov 2014 #28
Thank you, merrily, for this post. riqster Nov 2014 #33
Wow, after all that she has done for us, you treat her like this? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #34
agreed.... Sheepshank Nov 2014 #39
Some of The Notorious RBG's recent dissents have been amazing Gothmog Nov 2014 #35

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
36. yep - heard that would be their strategy should Ginsburg resign
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:33 AM
Nov 2014

Plus there were enough half assed democratic senators that I wouldn't bet an Obama nominee would get a positive vote anyway.
Plus it is not a given Obama would nominate a true liberal.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
38. And that would have given us anoter issue to run on this year
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 12:04 PM
Nov 2014

The President could have piked an attractive replacement and force republican senate candidates to say how they would vote on him/her if elected.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
4. I genuinely do thank her...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:58 PM
Nov 2014

And I think it's ridiculous anyone would criticize her for staying. She's been amazing.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
5. The pukes would have filibustered
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:58 PM
Nov 2014

any and all Obama SC appointments. The filibuster changes that the Dems forced through earlier specifically did not include SC appointments.

She made the smart move, knowing that the only hope for a better SC is in waiting until after 2016 when the pukes will have to defend far more Senate seats.

Now if we can convince the Democratic party to get off their collective asses and run decent candidates she may be able to prove her point.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
6. They could not have filibustered for...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 01:06 PM
Nov 2014

... 3 1/2 years and leave a vacancy on Supreme Court for that long! It would have been a PR disaster for the Rethugs, especially since Obama's approval ratings were decent in them the following his re-election.

Even if we do well in 2016, we at best wi have a VERY slim Senate majority. What makes you think the Rethugs wouldn't try to use the filibuster then?

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
8. I think you underestimate people like
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 01:44 PM
Nov 2014

Ted "If I Can't Do It My Way I'll Stop Everybody Else" Cruz and Rand "Look at Me" Paul: I can see them holding out until one of them is president.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
11. They would have needed 41 out of 45 of their senators...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 02:30 PM
Nov 2014

... to do that. Unlikely that many Republicans would have held out for 3 1/2 years over it with all the bad PR.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. 50+ votes to repeal the ACA ...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 02:42 PM
Nov 2014

Not a single republican vote for a single Democratic measure ... More crazies in the clown car ...

I think you under-estimate/have misread the modern gop.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
17. Not for 3 1/2 years
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:13 PM
Nov 2014

There is no way they could have justified filibustering for that long. Folks like Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Orrin Hatch, and blue staters like Kirk and Toomey would have eventually broken ranks.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
32. I think you have an overly optimistic view of Repub thinking.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 06:55 AM
Nov 2014

The numbers don't support such an assessment.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
40. I doubt either of these two nitwits would actually win.....
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 12:45 AM
Nov 2014

Without election fraud that would absolutely dwarf that in 2004.....but then again, given the strange world we live in, perhaps that's not impossible, either.....

Mz Pip

(27,450 posts)
23. And she knew that
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 11:47 PM
Nov 2014

She is far more aware of what a SCOTUS nominee would be up against than most of us.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
12. Are you kidding??
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 02:33 PM
Nov 2014

I hope she lives to be 100. But the fact is she is an 82-year-old cancer survivor with an extremely burdensome and taxing job. Thurgood Marshall held out as long as he could waiting for a Democratic president, but ultimately his health forced him to step down.

tgards79

(1,415 posts)
15. And what if we lose in 2016???
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 02:56 PM
Nov 2014

She should have stepped down in 2013. It is too important to let personal pride get in the way. Anyone who thinks she is pursuing a strategy other than her own desires is kidding themselves. As is anyone who think the odds of getting a liberal justice to replace her are somehow higher now than in 2013.

The irony is, it is her own incredibly admirable legacy that she has put at risk.

Justices should have a mandatory retirement age. Say, 75 or 80.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
18. Can you change the past?
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:31 PM
Nov 2014

I can't. So I won't spend the present and the future worrying about the past. I will work toward electing good people in 2016.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
16. I am too, but...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:08 PM
Nov 2014

...I just want to be sure that some o e like her replaces her on the bench, not a Samuel Alito.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
21. Hope this is satire
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:26 PM
Nov 2014

If it's not, it's embarrassingly stupid, perhaps the most embarrassingly stupid thing I've read all year.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
22. I wish her good health. I hope she stays on the SC until she takes her last breath.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 11:24 PM
Nov 2014

Even if she never writes another of her well written, telepathic, truth telling, opinions. I wouldn't care if she were sitting comatose on the bench, she can stay until we can be sure, that the next SCOTUS justice is a progressive.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
34. Wow, after all that she has done for us, you treat her like this?
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:43 AM
Nov 2014

Shame on you.

I am quite certain that she is doing what she thinks best for all of us, just like she always has.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
39. agreed....
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:42 PM
Nov 2014

I'm pretty sure she is enough of a smarty pants to have figured out the options and the imperatives of replacing her position. Maybe she's even talked with Obama and strategized. She has been vocally disappointed in some recent SC decisions and realizes for sure what is at stake. Staying on, is no game it's a strategy.

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