2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWasserman's got to go
I knew something was up when she didn't do squat in the mid terms, and we lost miserably. Now this? She's after Obama? WTF!!! See link below. This woman's got to go. She does not represent the democratic party at all and has failed miserably. I'm pretty sure she's working for the GOP.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-dws-wanted-to-paint-obama-as-anti-woman-and-anti-semitic-if-ousted-as-dnc-chair/
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)By the way? She's never supported President Obama in deeds. EVER.
ibjensen
(2 posts)There's nothing wrong with Debby Washerwoman Schultz. she's a treasure.
Response to ibjensen (Reply #2)
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COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)both c and d. Must be a Rethuglian.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,434 posts)I'd say that also applies to whoever voted to hide that totally-appropriate response.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)We don't want to hurt the poor trolls feelings because DU traffic would suffer.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Rediculous.
erronis
(15,314 posts)This posting was way within bounds and presents some good alternatives. Find another jury.
7962
(11,841 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Whoever you are.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)- I think ibjensen is saying she knows how to do laundry exceptionally well.
TBF
(32,081 posts)whomever you are ...
(*wink - hi Deb!!)
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Look, I live in Florida, where I have seen her kneecap progressives for years, AND LOSE ELECTIONS HAND OVER FIST! The one bit of good electoral news in Fl;orida was the fact we kept Alan Grayson, but she insults him. She is also very much resposible for Marco Rubio, as she allowed the fomer Clinton voters to throw Kendrick Meek to the wolves. Yet, when someone dares criticze her freinds like Lincoln Diaz-Balart, she plays paladin for them.
It's one thing to say "Yes this person does not represent many people, but they have a winning record" it is another to say "well, this person has lostsome elections, but the ideas they have are pure Democrat." But how do you keep someone who has failed both in terms of ideals, AND has dismal results to shoe for it?
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)have a nice day.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)The fact that she wasn't raises alot of nasty questions about the Party Leadership.
In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:
Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia
Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez
Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo
All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.
FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>
Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.
While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:
But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.
"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.
Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:
The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.
http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537
The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.
They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."
This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html
Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing
A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly.
bvar22
Cursed with a memory
With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Her "friend". And threw her progressive opponent, John Russell, under the bus, after he won a 3-way primary by 10 pts.
Her biggest sin was doing NOTHING in the 2010 mid-terms when redistricting was in play.
And she supported a flipped repuke, for FDP Chair, who was a lobbyist for ChoicePoint (2000 purge lists) and is also married to an attorney on the Bush side of Bush v Gore.
nvme
(860 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)i.e., Debbie *Washerwoman* Schultz
NBachers
(17,130 posts)If only there was someone with a proven track record and a demonstrated ability to turn out voters and win elections . . .
Triana
(22,666 posts)Who does it and how is the leader of the DNC chosen?
LiberalFighter
(51,005 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)IMO, Dean became head of the DNC because Kerry and he made a deal during the primary.
And Obama endorsed Shultz.
http://atr.rollcall.com/dnc-re-elects-wasserman-schultz-honda-steps-down-as-vice-chairman/
An his name is Howard Dean......
ananda
(28,870 posts)It's that damm DLC Rahm Emanuel influence that's killing us.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)BUT he's already done the major damage re: Dean. Also, his apparent influence on the Obama administration was the first disillusionment for me.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I smell shenanigans. Well, Debbie wants to step up in her political career but methinks she will soon become a highly-paid lobbyist.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)They annoyed the heck out of me.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)She was absent before, during and after the elections. I called for her to be dumped then and I call for her to be dumped NOW.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)The mid terms were a complete fail.
And when there is a huge fail, those at the top should be fired.
Botany
(70,539 posts)You got that right.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017224941
think
(11,641 posts)Botany
(70,539 posts)What was DWS putting a person that helped to rig the Florida 2000 Presidential for w
as chair of the Florida Democratic Party?
Walker's last two wins in Wisconsoin don't pass my smell test either because why would
so many people vote for somebody who was trying to screw them or their friends and or
family members.
I was deep in the belly of the beast in OH in 2004 and I have no doubt that the repugs
had people inside the ODP and the Kerry campaign.
sorry to rant
think
(11,641 posts)classykaren
(769 posts)JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)She put on a good face to get a Democrat in the White House, but she now thinks that the next set of candidates need to "distance themselves from Obama" due to Obama's insufficient "loyalty to the Democratic base." She is, of course, delusional.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)That's rich coming from her considering her support of GOP candidates in Florida over liberal candidates.
Can we just have Dean back please!?
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)or any of the liberals you help kneecap?
How about being loyal to Kendrick Meek?
By the way Debbie, do not think sucking up to Hillary will save you. Hillary will cast you into the flames because you dared deviate slightly from her once. The problem with selling your soul is that the Devil has no problem breaking contracts as you get dragged off to Hell.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)so they can get into the herd and work under cover...and pick off the easy meat.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)And she's it. Remove her from power and let's get someone that actually cares about the democratic party, and our future.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)She seems to be undermining the Democratic Party.
ALBliberal
(2,344 posts)And embodies all the reasons we lost at midterm and will lose in 2016. We have to embrace our successes and run with it. With Obama's new "kicking a@# and taking names" mode of operating maybe we can rid ourselves of her. Shoot I vote we go with PATTY MURRAY. With her record of getting women elected to the senate she would be fantastic. She is too often overlooked. I think she is terrific. Smart steady methodical intuitive a stealth fighter bringing home the wins.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Somehow she lost her compass or something -- just never seemed to be the same properly aimed laser beam. Maybe she can re-fire up that spark. I have no idea. Soon would be great!!!
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Look at how well all of that distancing crap worked in November.
Does she think people are stupid enough to believe that horsecrap she's yammering about.
I wish they would just get rid of her - sooner than later.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)You're welcome!
INdemo
(6,994 posts)there should have been one submitted to President Obama on
Nov 7th 2014 to throw her out
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)face the consequences of another huge failure. Wasserman is NOT on our side. There is way too much of a risk, especially with 2016 just around the corner. Her record is terrible, and she has shown no interest in changing anything. It needs to be done soon, to salvage what chance we might have in 2016. The risks are just too high.
Too Bad Debbie. On a brighter note: I heard McConnell and Boehner are looking for for part time internists. Hey Deb, I'll even give you a good reference, just to get you moving along.
iscooterliberally
(2,861 posts)DWS needs to go back to Weston and spend more time with her family I think. She didn't even support the Democratic challengers in her neighboring districts back in 2010. She's opposed to medical marijuana in Florida too. IMO she's a DINO. She's good at fundraising, and represents large piles of cash. She is the poster child for the best government money can buy.
Maineman
(854 posts)ancianita
(36,126 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)In the Spring of 2014, Democrats could say the Senate could be held and the House was in play.
On election day, it was hard to believe that that was ever the case.
DWS was not part of any treacherous conspiracy. She simply didn't know how to win. That is reason enough for her to go.
And she can take the third way ideology with her.
mopinko
(70,155 posts)she would have tendered her resignation after the beating that we took.
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)use to be that if you were in charge of something that failed catastrophically, you'd have the good sense to resign and let someone else try to do better
Cary
(11,746 posts)I hesitate to say she's working for the GOP. Mostly I am not impressed with the incredibly low voter turnout in the mid terms. It is her job to get Democrats out to vote. She failed. That's an objective measure, and if she has any plans to recover I have not heard them.
Nor am I particularly impressed with the current level of enthusiasm. By contrast "conservatives" are energized. It isn't a good time to be energized so while it irks me I'm not too concerned. I am a little concerned by my perception of the low motivation of our base.
So I would love to see a new, more enthusiastic Chair with some new ideas.
lofty1
(62 posts)AIPAC is not pleased so guess who she will be loyal to first.
http://www.salon.com/2014/01/24/aipac_attacks_debbie_wasserman_schultz/
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)when she said it didn't matter if Scott Walker won his recall- didn't matter to WHOM?
MBS
(9,688 posts)trueblue2007
(17,231 posts)AND BRING BACK DR. HOWARD DEAN NOW!!!
MBS
(9,688 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)NuttyFluffers
(6,811 posts)she is a millstone about our collective neck.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)fucking us over, one apology at a time.
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)She's been an absolute disaster. It's almost like she does this purposefully.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)to keep your OWN position. Too bad you couldn't muster up some of that passion for the rest of the Democratic party and its candidates. Mean spirited, whiny, self-serving, and most of all - incompetent. Yes, she needs to go and just to keep things somewhat fair, we'll replace you with someone else from Florida - Alan Grayson. He'll kick some serious Republican Ass.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)If she was half as willing to fight the Florida GOP, she might have had results.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)been predicted.
ybbor
(1,555 posts)I in no uncertain terms told her to not let the door hit her in the ass on her way out.
Hard to believe the troops weren't rallying after all of her "well the Titanic is sunk" emails.
I want Dr. Dean back in charge.
littlemissmartypants
(22,719 posts)Since this is already on the greatest page...
This thread is clear evidence DU has herd immunity against trolls.
And I concur.
Deb acts delirious.
In a bad way.Is she distracted?
~lmsp
DFW
(54,415 posts)He said the DNC chair is a challenging, potent position when your party dos not have the White House, but when your party DOES have the White House, the president is the nominal head of the Party, and the DNC chair is a far less interesting (and less powerful) post. The dismal results of the 2014 midterms indicate that a stronger hand is needed as the DNC chair, and definitely one who does not have a distracting (I hope!) day job as a member of Congress.
I had breakfast with Howard last month, just the two of us. He isn't interested in either the DNC chair or running for president again. He'll be 67 in November, and Judy is very much against it. It would take a LOT to persuade him to do either.
The time may not be far off when we'll need to muster "a lot" and get him back, but for now, he's out. Unfortunately!
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)The fact he does not want the job is probably a sign that he has enough morals and smarts to actually deserve the job.
DFW
(54,415 posts)obxhead
(8,434 posts)Yet they support Clinton in other threads.
I don't quite get that line of thinking.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)but not the other.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)Not an ideology.
DWS and HC live the same philosophy. The rich get richer while they climb over the backs of everyone else.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)It is easy to blame her rather than St. Hillary, Imperatrix Nova Imperia America. She makes a good scapegoat that can be blamed and disposed of come 2016.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I do know this.
Look at the 2014 election. Look at us prior to getting there. The GOP equivalent, Rinse Penis, was out in the spotlight pushing their sickening agenda, (for what it was worth) and getting the word out. Wasserman was pretty much no where to be found. One has to question why? She was slammed after the election for her inactivity and total lack of support. It's now four months later and now she wants to throw Obama under the bus? Are you kidding me? WTF...
She took a wrong turn in the fork in the road many years ago, and still refuses to see her mistakes, Then she refuses to backtrack to the fork, and go the other way. It's called not learning from your mistakes. Is this who we want representing the democratic party? I think not.
Hey, I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but even I can see that something fishy is going on here.
I'm hoping someone in the democratic party with some clout, will seek corrective action, and fix this soon. If not, we're in for a big disappointment in 2016.
Lunabell
(6,102 posts)I am anything but antisemitic, but fuck Israel and its Apartheid government!
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)OMG - At least read the last 3 pages of the findings report. It has Wasserman written all over it.
No leadership at all.
Perfect timing for this to come out.
trueblue2007
(17,231 posts)OR .... how do we get her fired???
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I thought that was obvious after the midterms but these latest reports just show how far past her due date she is. I don't think she's working for the gop (in fact, I think that's ridiculous if you look at her voting record), but she's of no help to the Democrats in Congress which is her job.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Yep, I seriously doubt she works for the GOP, but it certainly seems like it. She has done the democrats NO favors at all.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I have seldom seen a thread this long, with 98 recs, where DUers are unanimous in the condemnation of a supposed "Democrat".
NOt a single post defending Wasserman-Schultz.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)We just need new leadership. Plain and simple. Some people are a good fit for a job. Some are not. Recognize your weaknesses and move forward, one way or the other. It's kinda like, "Lead, or step aside". We need leadership. Someone to take our party forward into the future, 2016 and beyond. I, as with many others here, do not believe she is the chosen one.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)If you wish to defend her campaigning for Republicans,
please proceed.