2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill Hillary Clinton Be the Agent of Her Campaign’s Undoing—Again?
by Joshua Green
6:00 AM EDT
April 15, 2015
The last time Hillary Clinton was riding high as a presidential candidate was March 5, 2008. She had just beaten Barack Obama in the Ohio and Texas primaries. Outwardly, Clinton finally seemed to have found her voice. She had momentum. But on the inside, her campaign was coming apart. Top lieutenants were bitterly divided into rival camps, pushing contrary strategies. One side wanted Clinton to attack her upstart opponent. The other urged her to display a softer, feminine side to build support. Mostly, though, her advisers were consumed with destroying each other, as a flood of leaked e-mails later made clear.
The glow of her victories didnt last. On the front page of the next days Washington Post, the feuding and back-stabbing spilled into public view: Even in Victory, Clinton Team is Battling Itself. This proved too much for Robert Barnett, the Washington super-lawyer and longtime adviser to the Clintons, who fired off an e-mail lighting into her senior staff:
STOP IT!!!! I have help [sic] my tongue for weeks. After this mornings WP story, no longer. This makes me sick. This circular firing squad that is occurring is unattractive, unprofessional, unconscionable, and unacceptable. ... It must stop.
It didnt. Clintons campaign never adjusted and finally collapsed, brought down by the chaos she allowed to flourish.
The seven years since Hillary Clintons last presidential bid have induced a kind of amnesia about the true reason for her loss, a subject newly relevant now that shes running again. Several factors cloud our ability to recollect it clearly: the passage of time; Democrats desire to put a bruising primary race behind them; and, above all, the mythologizing of Barack Obamas campaign brain trust, which cast him as a figure of destiny and her as someone who history swept aside.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-15/meet-hillary-clinton-s-greatest-challenger-hillary-clinton
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And I'll leave it at that.
I know a lot of people love her, I'm not sure why but I know it's true.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)The many serious flaws of this candidate, and those that afflict her campaign, have become a problem for all Democrats.
That's one reason I will not stop pointing them out.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)then one can not be judged by anything.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Who else is in the race? List your fantasy contender here.
Hillary bashers eat this shit up don't they?
3 days into her campaign and it's all over but the email leaks right?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Remember, Obama did not have a birth certificate, he was an Acorn organizer, he wasn't an American, he went to Rev Wright's church, it goes on and on, he was not elected but was re-elected. The GOP is going to try to manufacture scandals just as they have others, we have to elect the candidate which is best for the US.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)sources as I see fit.
Best thing might be for you to put me on your ignore list so as to spare you the grief.
trueblue2007
(17,237 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)...and most of all was just and a better leader at the time in terms of keeping his operation in check. Obama wins because he is a well grounded individual who knows how to deal with the sky high world of politics. I don't see any other candidates in the race that will be able to pull that off... and I intend to vote for O'Malley in the Dem primaries here in Ohio if he makes it that far.
But I will vote for Hillary in the general election without any nose holding or regret. I will proudly vote for her. But she isn't Obama.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Chances are likely she'll be the nominee, and she will definitely will be 1000x better than whatever clown the GOP coughs up to face her.
She's not my ideal candidate, but she still has many good points and we're going to have to work with her to keep the GOP out of the White House.
I don't see why my fellow liberals insist on bashing her 24/7 without an alternative for the nomination. No need to write the campaign ads for Jeb or Walker. Let the Kochs hire someone to do that.