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question everything

(47,486 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 09:09 PM Apr 2015

If you consider staying home if Hilary is the candidate

or, for that matter, for any Democratic Presidential nominee, here is what Fred Barnes, executive editor of the Weekly Standard and a Fox commentator wrote in the WSJ:

"Why the Stakes in 2016 Are So High - don’t forget the four Supreme Court justices who are 76 or older." (These are Scalia, Kennedy, Ginsburg and Breyer).

This is what it's all about: the Supreme Court. Yes, I've read comments here that this does not head a list of issues for some. But none of the other issues can be attended to without the Supreme Court.

So whether it is Hillary, or Schweitzer, Web or Warren - if you are not going to vote for the nominee, you should not then complain about, say, another Citizens United, reversal of Roe ("should be left to the states", yeah, right), even reversal of the 1965 Griswold v. Connecticut, that stated the right to privacy.


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Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
1. Hillary was my candidate in 2007.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 09:11 PM
Apr 2015

When she lost the Democratic primary to Barack Obama, I aligned to support him.

I see no reason to do otherwise if HRC wins the Democratic primaries.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
4. Well, as a matter of fact I do..and my Dad is departed. That being said, I meant to reply to the OP
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 09:29 PM
Apr 2015

regarding political matters. But he had a saying for everything...I mean everything. Most of them stuck.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. The Democratic Convention is over a year away.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 09:58 PM
Apr 2015

Even if we skip forward a year, right now, the convention is months away.
Why worry about this sort of thing right now?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
6. Hell no - I vote in every election.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 12:41 AM
Apr 2015

Just not for candidates who ignore the working class and support wars of choice.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. I never stay home, but I won't vote for Clinton, or Bush, no thanks.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:14 AM
Apr 2015

And California is a winner take all state, it will probably go to the Democrat, all the electoral votes.

If it looks close AND Hillary is the on the ballot, I might have to reconsider.

Otherwise I won't do it.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
8. Not staying home, not voting for her.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:45 AM
Apr 2015

I live in California and have the luxury of voting my conscience, and that will not be for her.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
10. Same here
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 04:58 AM
Apr 2015

Except I am registered in Oregon, which if she is the nominee I'm sure she will win. I'll vote for whomever else looks good in the primary. I'm sure the nomination will be settled before Oregon's primary in late May making my vote moot point.

By the way I don't stay home, I vote by mail.

joshdawg

(2,648 posts)
9. I've said this before:
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:55 AM
Apr 2015

Don't vote=republican win.
Vote third party=republican win.
Vote republican=country loses.

Hillary not my favorite, but, if she is the nominee, she has my vote.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
12. Single issue voting is no answer.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:18 AM
Apr 2015

If we are destroyed by a nuclear war with Russia, then naming of Supreme Court justices is not going to be an issue. We need to look at the full spectrum of what each candidate has to offer.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
13. We should let the GOP win the WH so they can more rapidly destroy the country.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 12:56 PM
Apr 2015

That way, once they totally gut the government, and everything has burned to the ground, we can rebuild the liberal utopia we all dream of.

Letting Hillary become President would slow the process down, thus delaying the arrival of the new order.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
14. On occasions, I've had similar thoughts
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:09 PM
Apr 2015

But, as I stated above, they will nominate young-ish Supreme Court justices that will affect generations to come.

And... seeing that so many voters in red states who are dependent on government payments still clamor for "small government" - I am not sure that the message would be heard.


apnu

(8,758 posts)
15. Hillary, in my wost nightmares, is 1000% better than any Republican.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:58 PM
Apr 2015

I was a Obama supporter in 2007, if Hillary had beat him, i would have voted for her. If she's the nominee this time, i will happily vote for her.

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