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Nasty Jack

(350 posts)
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:19 PM May 2015

WHO SAYS BERNIE SANDERS CAN'T WIN?


Sen. Bernie Sanders is running for President as a Democrat, when actually he is an independent from Vermont whose political philosophy is Democratic Socialism. Finally, a Progressive. An MSNBC article says it is important that he run, even if he can't win. I think he can win. Progressives have ultimately realized that the only way we can get what we want is to come out and vote to elect the President and Congress that will get it done. Actually there were 70 Democratic Socialists counted in the Congress in 2010, among them Raúl M. Grijalva of AZ, Dennis Kucinich, OH, Elijah Cummings, MD, John Lewis, GA, Ed Markey, MA, Charles Rangel, NY, Maxine Waters, CA, and of course Bernie Sanders. You can see them all here. Now that's pretty impressive and a good number to start with for 2016. What you Progressives have to understand is that you are not alone. Our views aren't anti-American like some conservatives would have you believe. They are right for this country and it is time that they are expressed nationally.

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WHO SAYS BERNIE SANDERS CAN'T WIN? (Original Post) Nasty Jack May 2015 OP
Welcome to DU Nasty Jack. Good post also. guillaumeb May 2015 #1
Welcome NV Whino May 2015 #2
Most of those you named are from a specific district in a state, not representative of the whole still_one May 2015 #3
How will Bernie compete against the Kochs and the GOP super pacs? Gothmog May 2015 #4
Bring them down Rosa Luxemburg May 2015 #8
Are you willing to bet a year's salary that he will win? One of the 99 May 2015 #5
"Liars" is the answer to your question rock May 2015 #6
Thanks Nasty Jack May 2015 #7
The question is moot. JoePhilly May 2015 #9

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. Welcome to DU Nasty Jack. Good post also.
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:24 PM
May 2015

It is all about the media framing the issues. The Progressive Caucus in Congress is larger than the Tea Party group, but guess who gets all the publicity?

Same for the Sunday morning "news" shows. They are always heavily dominated by John McCain, Dick Cheney, and Lindsey Graham.

still_one

(92,210 posts)
3. Most of those you named are from a specific district in a state, not representative of the whole
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:39 PM
May 2015

state, yet alone the whole country

Don't misssunderstand me, I am not saying Bernie can't win, I am saying it is going to be very difficult for any Democratic nominee, especially when we have an MSM that goes out of their way to refer to Bernie as a socialist, when it is very clear he is a Democratic Socialist, and they push books by republican hacks, that not only contains inaccuracies of Hillary, but outright lies

If we had a true forth estate with folks like Jon Stewart doing in depth interviews and news, it might be different, but this is not going to be a slam dunk

The republican nominee is most likely Walker or Bush, and actually Walker probably has a better chance as their nominee in notepad of bush because outside of Wisconsin, many people don't really know him, and he has the Koch billions behind him

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
4. How will Bernie compete against the Kochs and the GOP super pacs?
Sat May 9, 2015, 02:07 PM
May 2015

The Kochs will be spending $889 million and the GOP candidate will probably raise another billion dollars. I am curious as to how once competes against this much money?

rock

(13,218 posts)
6. "Liars" is the answer to your question
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:54 PM
May 2015

They think they can fool possible supporters into switching their votes. Even though his chances are lower than (some) others, it really depends on what his ultimate platform is and how dependable he appears to be. Of course lots of other factors come into play. If they're not liars, they're idiots. Welcome to DU, stay a while.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
9. The question is moot.
Sat May 9, 2015, 06:53 PM
May 2015

The correct question is"how will Bernie and his supporters convience people who already believe Hillary WILL win, not only that Bernie can win, but that he absolutely will win in the general?"

Hillary already has lots of supporters who are confident she'll beat the GOP nominee.

Bernie needs to convert lots and lots of them to win the nomination.

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