If Biden gets in he will drain enough Hillary vote to put sanders ahead.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

Lets go Joe!!!

[rocktivity]

1. But Joe hasn't made a peep about running

Surely he would have by now if he were interested.


rocktivity

[SoLeftIAmRight]

2. IF

IF - has meaning - and there is talk

[HooptieWagon]

3. An advisor/friend of his is sure he's going to run.

And I too think he'll draw votes from Hillary. The only candidate who could draw votes from Bernie is Warren, and she's emphatic about not running.

[JI7]

4. if Biden gets enough support from Hillary it would mean BIDEN is the one leading

[davidpdx]

5. I'll cross the bridge when it comes, which would be a hard choice for me

But I also respect his decision if he chooses not to run.

[peacebird]

6. I'm all in for Bernie, but I could be happy if Biden got the nomination!

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. Biden voted for the Iraq war

He was at the forefront of supporting increase in law enforcement and jail terms. He takes money from corporations. He showed a sexist slant when he demeaned Anita Hill. What would cause you to support Biden?

[Agschmid]

9. Because he isn't Hillary.

See how that works.

[Evergreen Emerald]

10. I do. Some people would never support a woman.

No matter what her qualifications.

[peacebird]

11. I would support Elizabeth Warren in a heartbeat!

Hillary, never.

[NCTraveler]

7. Doesn't make sense.

Nationally, if Biden took as many votes away from Hillary as you say, Biden would be leading. I don't think people get how far ahead she is nationally. He would literally be in the lead if he took half her support. Losing half her support nationally would still even leave her in an extremely solid second place. This is assuming the most positive of possibilities for Sanders under this point in time. Saying that not one supporter of his would head over to Biden, while 50% of Hillary support would leave. Biden is constantly ahead of Sanders without even being in the race. In no way, under the current snap shot, would Biden entering the race put Sanders ahead.

RCP average between 5/28 and 6/28

Clinton 63
Biden 13.5
Sanders 12.7

If he simply took half of Hillarys support

Clinton 31.5
Biden 45
Sanders 12.7

[peacebird]

12. Bernie is growing his percentage month over month, and it's still a long time to the primaries.

[NCTraveler]

13. I fully agree.

I think today will look nothing like seven months from now. I am highly confident we will see one of two things. We go into the primary with Sanders and Hillary within the margin of error. We see Hillary, Sanders and O'Malley within the margin of error. One view of that on my part is positive and one negative. Negative: The media must have a horse race and will make it so. Positive: I think it is extremely good for the party.

My point was with the ops thought process with respect to Biden entering the race. It is very flawed.

[peacebird]

14. I agree with your analysis, and yes, the media wants a horse race instead of covering pesky things

like positions and policies....

sigh

[NCTraveler]

15. "like positions and policies"

That is why the media's influence, as it is today with respect to primaries, doesn't bother me that bad. We have some great voices and the closer the race the more voices that will be heard. That concept would scare the crap out of me if I were on the other side.

[Adrahil]

17. Accurate.

Lots of polls with Biden in them, and he doesn't have the OP's staed effect. I do expect him to go up in the polls if he ddeclares, but he'll take votes from Bernie too.

I hope Biden doesn't run. I love Uncle Joe, and he was an excellent Veep, but I dont think he'd be that great a President, and he's not, in my view, a good candidate.

[Adrahil]

16. Perosnally I think we need a majority candidqte, not a plurality candidate.

Do you think Bernie is incapable of securing majority Democratic support?

[aspirant]

18. Analysis

NH poll - HRC 41%, Bernie 31%, Biden 7% (now, 50% Change)
HRC 21%, Bernie 31%, Biden 27%; Bernie Wins, HRC last

Iowa poll - HRC 52%, Bernie 33%, Biden 7%
HRC 26%, Bernie 33%, Biden 33%; Bernie ties, HRC last

Biden's phony smile, No Thanks.

[Sheepshank]

20. Pure crap

[aspirant]

21. Sometimes when a candidate

rolls the dice, craps will come up.

You must have forget to respond to post#7

[zappaman]

19. If you say so.