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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:09 AM Jul 2015

This clip sums up why I believe HRC will not win the nomination. She's NOT a good politician

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| 8 years after her defeat in Iowa and she opens with THIS? ME ME ME!!!!! Although I've not liked many of her policies forever, I was trying to get to know/like her a little better so I could enthusiastically support her in the GE. This moment confirmed my fears that she'd learned little from her 08' loss. I should note that my wife, who votes Democratic but is mostly apolitical, was PISSED when she saw this. Her opinion; 'That woman is clueless about how people see her."
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This clip sums up why I believe HRC will not win the nomination. She's NOT a good politician (Original Post) Indepatriot Jul 2015 OP
This video does not exist. SamKnause Jul 2015 #1
"This video does not exist"?!? tularetom Jul 2015 #2
Fixed it. Indepatriot Jul 2015 #3
OK, so you don't like her...move on. luvspeas Jul 2015 #4
not as much as they love all of their stuff she keeps pushing MisterP Jul 2015 #18
This is the first time I've seen it. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #19
September 14th, 2014 luvspeas Jul 2015 #20
It was all over DU LWolf Jul 2015 #23
when your ass is kissed alla time and people pay you 250k elehhhhna Jul 2015 #5
Yup. Pretty much sums it up. peacebird Jul 2015 #8
Ooooo Poltergiest n/t hootinholler Jul 2015 #6
I took this quite differently The Roux Comes First Jul 2015 #7
I support Bernie, but I took this video the same way you did--as a somewhat apologetic bit of tblue37 Jul 2015 #21
Gosh,hard to believe a YouTuber who specializes in BENGHAZI! conspiracy sufrommich Jul 2015 #9
Silly bashing with no point; won't change minds; no new information... Sancho Jul 2015 #10
So your objection is Clinton coming to campaign for Democratic candidates in 2014? brooklynite Jul 2015 #11
LOL, she sounded like Oprah Prism Jul 2015 #12
My point, as stated in the OP, is that she's not a good "retail" politician. Indepatriot Jul 2015 #13
I am voting for Bernie in the primary and I am campaigning my heart out for him. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #26
It seems like a little make fun of myself opener for a speech...... UCmeNdc Jul 2015 #14
Hillary's problem is that she is over handled. Vinca Jul 2015 #15
you pretty much nailed it. n/t MBS Jul 2015 #17
So you post a video that counter-proves your thesis? rock Jul 2015 #16
there is something wrong with anyone who sees that and gets angry JI7 Jul 2015 #22
Hillary using other people's oxygen! brooklynite Jul 2015 #25
There was nothing wrong with this video. bravenak Jul 2015 #24
It's not that people dislike Hillary. They just seem to feel better when she's not around. pa28 Jul 2015 #27

luvspeas

(1,883 posts)
4. OK, so you don't like her...move on.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jul 2015

Why post an old video that has been posted here numerous times just so you can say you don't like someone you obviously never liked. It's this kind of divisive stuff that keeps everybody on edge around here.

It's a big waste of time.

I do not support any candidate at the moment. I'm happy that there are several potential candidates on the democratic side that have things about them that I like. I hope there are more. I also hope that there are good democratic candidates in other races too.

And by the way the repugs are loving every minute of this sort of bullshit.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
23. It was all over DU
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jul 2015

on September 14th? That's a work day, so I wouldn't have been under a rock. I would have been at work.

Still, I check in once a day for about 20 minutes even then.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
5. when your ass is kissed alla time and people pay you 250k
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jul 2015

to read remarks you get an inflated opinion of yourself.

The Roux Comes First

(1,299 posts)
7. I took this quite differently
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jul 2015

I've never been a big HRC fan. I am following and supporting Bernie with enthusiasm.

But I was actually somewhat impressed with this admittedly very short vid though more for context could make for an entirely different impression.

This seemed for a seasoned pol to be poking a little fun at herself to me. "You haven't gotten rid of me yet" sort of thing. Even possibly acknowledging that some might have seen more of her than they want.

But she's still standing there!

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
21. I support Bernie, but I took this video the same way you did--as a somewhat apologetic bit of
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:10 PM
Jul 2015

self-mockery.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
9. Gosh,hard to believe a YouTuber who specializes in BENGHAZI! conspiracy
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jul 2015

videos has a problem with Hillary.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
10. Silly bashing with no point; won't change minds; no new information...
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jul 2015

If you don't like someone, fine. DU has plenty of opportunity to learn about candidates, and one more of a thousand old videos adds nothing. All of the candidates will have moments that some will use as attacks - so let the GOP do their best and don't help them along.

Hillary is doing fine with most Democrats. Some people like cats, others like dogs.

I will vote for the Democratic candidate, and Hillary looks like the most experienced liberal who can win right now.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
12. LOL, she sounded like Oprah
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:48 PM
Jul 2015

"You get a vote, and you get a vote. Every-body gets a vooooo-ooote!"

Meh, this video doesn't bother me. It's entertaining.

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
13. My point, as stated in the OP, is that she's not a good "retail" politician.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:50 PM
Jul 2015

When i worked on the Obama campaign in 08', myself and a few others used to keep an informal tally of how many times Hillary used "I" in her speeches/statements, as opposed to Obama's use of "We". Not even close. This is a problem when it comes to inspiring volunteers and voters. As long as she keeps framing the conversation as being about her, she will not inspire. This is a serious concern, as it speaks to her ability to win in the GE.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
26. I am voting for Bernie in the primary and I am campaigning my heart out for him.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 12:42 AM
Jul 2015

I am not a Hillary fan, but even I know if she wins the primary she will be our next president. There is no clear electoral vote path for any Republican and it's even unlikely they will come close with the popular vote, the party is toxic and millions more people see that everyday.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
14. It seems like a little make fun of myself opener for a speech......
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 01:28 PM
Jul 2015

Why not show more of the follow on ?

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
15. Hillary's problem is that she is over handled.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

When she's "herself," she's a fine politician. When they stick a speech in front of her face she's terrible and sounds like someone reading a book report in front of a class. She's the exact opposite of Bernie. Love it or hate it, he speaks from the heart and tells you what he believes, not what a consensus of advisors believes.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
22. there is something wrong with anyone who sees that and gets angry
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jul 2015

If someone gets upset over that they might as well attack her for breathing.

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