2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo, who will be Bernie's running mate?
The more I see and hear of him, the more I like him.
I think this guy is the real deal.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)What a Dream Team, but
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...we couldn't afford to loose both of them from the Senate.
mythology
(9,527 posts)They are both good with getting the liberal wing of the Democratic party, but I would probably opt for somebody like Julian Castro or maybe Cory Booker.
I want to clarify that I don't think Sanders has a legitimate problem with minority voters who currently are supporting Clinton's campaign, but to win in the general election we need to maintain both the turnout and the margin of victory with minority voters. Not that nominating a minority is a surefire way to get their vote (see Palin, Sarah not turning out women voters for the McCain campaign), but it would I think help to energize those constituencies and be able to help bridge the current gap between the policies he's campaigning on and how those policies could be useful for helping raise the socio-economic status of minority groups.
Conversely, I think Clinton would be better served with a VP like Warren to help with her trouble among the more liberal wing of the party. Again, not that I think she wouldn't get the majority of that voting bloc, but she also needs to be aware of maintaining the Democratic enthusiasm that Obama tapped into for margins.
Of course being from Massachusetts, I don't exactly want to lose Warren from the Senate as we somehow wound up with Scott Brown for a couple of years.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Booker seems to be a great guy in general, but politically reminds me of Harold Ford.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)but don't know if that's true. I was stressing the importance of him on the 2016 ticket last winter but few agreed then. Booker has much charisma and smarts, but is Private Equity, WS.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)And I've read he's gone DLC but don't know if that's true. Odd, b/c I was stressing how it was impt. for him to be on the ticket for 2016 several months ago, but few agreed then. I'd like to see Rep. Barbara Lee of CA, for one.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Warren will still be needed there. We don't need a Corpadem taking her place
dirtydickcheney
(242 posts)But if she didn't want to run for President I just don't see her wanting to become VP.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Really, we don't need to strip the Senate of multiple good Dems at once. Grab someone from the House or a mayor or ex-governor or somesuch.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)She would be an awesome choice!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)While I don't think Bernie is going to keel over, he is of an advanced age, and I really do want him to have a VP I'd be comfortable with having as President if something did happen to Bernie. Lee would do nicely.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)so many ways.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)I will enthusiastically vote for whoever the Dem nominee is. I don't view politics as Bernie vs. Hillary, I am firmly anti-Republican party. Republicans are the enemy. We are lucky to have such great candidates, and may the best candidate win.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)I guess it is best for me to just shut up ...
((( slinks away quietly, confused, but in a good way, I think )))
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)a wonderful choice.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)A republican who should actually be a Democrat.
Solid executive experience as Governor of Utah and left office with >75% approval rating
Pro same sex marriage, immigration reform and recognizes the need to combat climate change.
Worked under President Obama as ambassador to China.
Solid fiscal record, brought prosperity to his state.
And he also seems like a decent, down to earth guy with a nice family. Would definitely send a message that the campaign isn't about party but about getting things done for the people again. Not to mention it would make Republican heads explode, and would certainly take away from the 'radical socialist' label thats been thrown around. Electorally, this pick would probably be the best.
Realistically though if Sanders did somehow manage to get the nomination he would probably go with O'Malley, Webb or Clinton.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)ram2008
(1,238 posts)I'm sure he's probably against Single as are most politicians including Obama and Clinton.
Here are his positions on immigration, pretty moderate and inoffensive:
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Jon_Huntsman_Immigration.htm
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)the best option.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)He should've started off with single payer on hisHealthcare reform, maybe then we would've been negotiated down to a public option instead of the mandate.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)because Obama passed Hillary's Plan for Health Insurance Reform.... Mandate to purchase private Insurance for every American with NO Public Option.
Do you remember the debate where Obama eviscerated Hillary's "Health Care Plan" and explained WHY mandates do NOT work, and the need of a Public Option "to keep them (Insurance Cos) honest"?
Obama: "If mandates worked, all we would have to do is mandate that everyone buys a house
to end the homeless problem."[i/]
elleng
(130,974 posts)O'Malley's MY preferred nominee this time around, and I'd HOPED the repugs would have gone with Huntsman in the past to let us see a rational repug.
I don't see clinton taking the second chair to Senator Sanders, but I could be wrong.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Barbara Lee is not in my district but she is across the Bay and I donate to her campaign every time she runs. She and Bernie have campaigned together on issues (I was lucky enough to catch them at the SF Library). They are a great fit ideologically and temperamentally.
She is brave and true and consistent.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)A woman with integrity and guts. She would be such a wonderful running mate and could bring a giant state for Democrats (though there isn't much problem with that).
Barbara Lee was the ONLY vote (NO) against Invading & Occupying Afghanistan
to catch a handful of Saudi criminals camping out on some Warlord's land.
At the time I thought, "Well, at least we have one."
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)And since I think the primary will come down to honesty and integrity, she is the perfect choice.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I think it was Sabrina who mentioned her name first! Perfect.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)that she would be a great fit as well. We share much more
with the Greens than with the third way.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)to announce a running mate before winning the nomination. I can't remember who has done it in the past, hopefully some good minds here can cite some examples.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I'm sure he'd pick someone great. Barbara Lee would be amazing. There's other outstanding choices too.
I'm just wondering if there's any historical precedent for picking a running mate during the campaign. For an underdog it could be a dramatic move that could shake things up.
JI7
(89,252 posts)I would like that.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Grayson, second. Al Franken, third. (Although I would hate to not have him as our Senator.)
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)But Robert Reich would be very suitable from a political perspective ... But, he had the same problem as Warren - two Bernie Sanders liberals may not have the synergism that a slightly different candidate might have ...
Nevertheless, Warren, Reich, Lee, O'Malley ... I like them all ...
greendog
(3,127 posts)jmowreader
(50,560 posts)greendog
(3,127 posts)jmowreader
(50,560 posts)greendog
(3,127 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)They are in the game. Clinton even.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)jmowreader
(50,560 posts)Steve Beshear is governor of Kentucky, and a centrist Democrat.
He is pro-coal, which kills him in a lot of our eyes - but coal is a major employer in Kentucky so his support for it almost goes without saying. He is also pro-green energy, pro-choice, EXTREMELY pro-Obamacare (google Kynect), good on jobs, good on guns, and able to win elections in red states. I think he's our guy, if he'll do it.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Steve_Beshear.htm
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Nobody announces running mates this early.