2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Bernie Sanders’s Momentum Is Not Built to Last
Bernie Sanders is surging. He trailed Hillary Rodham Clinton by as much as 50 points in the polls a few months ago, but he has pulled within 10 points in New Hampshire, according to some surveys. He has doubled his support in Iowa over the last month. The signs of his support are palpable: Last week, about 10,000 people attended an event in Madison, Wis., and he announced that he raised $15 million in the first three months of his campaign.
But the Sanders surge is about to hit a wall: the rank and file of the Democratic primary electorate.
Mr. Sanders is now doing nearly as well as Barack Obama did among liberal voters in 2008. That makes him competitive in relatively liberal contests, like the Iowa caucuses or the New Hampshire primary.
But Mrs. Clinton still holds a huge lead among moderate and conservative Democrats white and nonwhite alike. Whether Mr. Sanders can close the gap among these voters will determine the seriousness of his candidacy and whether he can pick up more delegates in other primaries. There arent many reasons to expect he will break through, and he certainly isnt doing it yet.
If he doesnt, he will lose by a wide margin.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/09/upshot/why-bernie-sanderss-momentum-is-not-built-to-last.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)with Bernie rising in the polls.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Or something.
But, yes. I completely agree! They are getting kind of desperate at trying to stop another non-Hillary candidate.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)global1
(25,252 posts)It seems to me that Bernie's main message is an 'economic message'. I believe his message appeals across all of these labels as well as appealing to Independents and a lot of Repugs.
Don't count Bernie out just yet.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)and slapped on a D while still holding onto all of their Republican ideas about how to keep most of us working to enrich the few.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)isn't going to appeal to the hardcore neoliberal Democrats; it will appeal to the rest.
Some Democrats support neoliberal candidates, not because they agree with the message, but because they're afraid the rest can't "win."
The hard work ahead is to overcome that fear.
global1
(25,252 posts)What's in a label?
Define these terms; comparre and contrast:
1. Liberal Democrat
2. Moderate Democrat
3. Conservative Democrat
4. Neoliberal Democrat
Do all the American People make these distinctions or is this just an exercise for the analytical political pundits and junkies?
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)upsetting the Chosen One.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)I can't stop yawning.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)untrusted-by-voters Clinton and whatever clown he'll then face in the general.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:15 AM - Edit history (1)
Thank you in advance.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)This guy has an opinion. He's welcome to it.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Response to ibegurpard (Reply #11)
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monmouth4
(9,708 posts)MelungeonWoman
(502 posts)Am I the only person who is bothered by this?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)No. Why are you?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)nobody knows what is going to happen until the primary votes start coming in. High poll numbers, increasing poll numbers, and large crowds aren't a sure sign of anything at this point. Bernie's a nice guy and seems to have some appeal but he will have to be tested wider and farther to see whether or not he can clinch the nomination.