Hillary vs Bernie: Pros and cons

[RobertEarl]

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Hillary champions the establishment.

Bernie champions the little guy.

Hillary has rode the coattails of establishment.

Bernie has made his own coat.

Hillary is not in favor of single-payer health care.

Bernie is for single payer health care. Like Canada has.

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These are just a few distinctions of the two main candidates for the Democratic party primary. Much of what Hillary supports are things some republicans support, but not much of what Bernie wants for the US is something republicans can even mention without going nuts.

The republicans will go absolutely bonkers if Bernie is nominated. They will be forced to come up with new arguments because they have never really been presented with a candidate like Bernie. In their going bonkers they will spill their guts and the general public will be repulsed, and the ensuing response at the polls may just put the republicans in their graves.

If Hillary is our candidate, the republicans will use their time proven attacks on Hillary, and they will be able to hide their true feelings and manage to stay alive in the political arena.

This is one reason I so look forward to Bernie being the party's champion. It will bring out the worst in the republicans and expose them once and for all.

[onehandle]

1. Hillary Pro: She will be our next President

Bernie Pro: He will still be a mighty voice in the Senate

Sorry, no cons. I support them both.

[RobertEarl]

3. I think Hillary will bow out

The republicans will dredge up years and years of negatives and spend billions on those time proven messages.

Bernie, tho, will force them to come up with new ideas, and we all know when they do they stink the place up.

Our grassroots efforts for Bernie will be quite able to educate the public on just how whacked the republicans are attacking our Bernie.

[DanTex]

2. Hillary can win the GE. Bernie cannot. Very important.

Also, while Bernie is to the left of Hillary on many or most issues, Hillary is still to the left of anything that is going to get through congress, which means that from a legislative point of view, Bernie's "extra leftness" isn't going to have any consequence.

[RobertEarl]

4. Bernie appeals to All Americans

He will be able to take many independent votes that formerly would consider a republican.

Even you, I take it, would vote for Bernie?

[DanTex]

5. "Even" I would vote for him, happily, but I'm a liberal Democrat.

I don't see him capturing independent votes though. And I see him getting pummeled by the GOP attack machine that will outspend him 10-1. I wish it weren't so.

[RobertEarl]

8. Independents

They look for real change. They are disgusted with the status quo. Bernie presents real change and a turn from the staus quo of big money and bought elections. He is the only chance for us to get independents to vote with us.

[DanTex]

10. Neither polls nor my anectodal experience supports that.

Independents tend to be people who figure that since there are two "sides", the truth must be somewhere in the "middle". A socialist is going to be a tough sell to them.

[RobertEarl]

11. Socialist a tough sell?

Then tell them to get off and stay off the socialist highways!

This idea that socialist is a tough sell is only because people don't realize how much they suck on the socialist teat.

[OKNancy]

6. It's fine to be for single payer, but there is no chance in hell

it would ever pass. Nor will a 50% tax, or free college or any of the other pie-in-the sky proposals.
It's all talk and promises that will never be reality. At least until COngress changes and that will take many, many election cycles.

Talk about telling people what they want to hear.

[randys1]

7. Until we fix gerrymandering, nothing good can come from our system no matter who

is in the WH.

BUT

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If the person in the WH, who has a MASSIVE BULLY PULPIT, who has 24/7 direct access to the MAINSTREAM media is someone like Bernie, someone unafraid to tell the truth about Wall Street, the banks, capitalism in general, well hell, how can that not be a good thing?

Remember, this shit works

[RobertEarl]

9. No chance?

That would be a negative emotion were I to feel that way.

Two years of Bernie in the White House and the republicans will get voted out of congress come 2018.