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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:33 AM Jul 2015

Hillary Clinton Sounds Off On Education Issues: 'We've Gotten Off Track In What We Test'

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In her recent meetings with the nation's top two teachers unions, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton positioned herself as a standardized-testing skeptic who believes deeply in the value of teachers.

On Monday, Clinton met with Lily Eskelsen García, president of the National Education Association, the largest teachers union in the country. García interviewed Clinton as part of the NEA's candidate endorsement process for the 2016 election. In the interview, Clinton expressed skepticism about contemporary standardized tests. “Are tests important? Yes. Do we need accountability? Yes. But we’ve gotten off track in what we test and what we test for that we sacrifice so much else in the curriculum, in the school day and school year," said Clinton in an interview excerpt released by the NEA.

“So many of our poorer schools have cut off all the extracurricular activities. We’ve taken away band, in so many places we’ve taken away a lot of the sports. We’ve taken away arts classes. We’ve taken away school productions," Clinton said in another excerpt. “I would like to see us get back to looking at individual children, looking at age appropriate learning experiences, looking at enriching the classroom experience.”

In March, the NEA formally began considering who it would endorse in the 2016 presidential election. To jump-start this process, it sent all viable candidates from both major parties questionnaires about prominent education issues and hired organizers for states with early voting. The interview comes a week after Clinton, along with fellow Democratic presidential candidates Gov. Martin O' Malley of Maryland and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), attended the executive council meeting of the American Federation of Teachers, the nation's other major teachers union.

During that meeting, Clinton emphasized her appreciation for teachers, saying, "It is just dead wrong to make teachers the scapegoats for all of society’s problems." "I want to work with you to make sure we do what needs to be done based on evidence, not ideology. … And from what I’ve seen, all of the evidence, and my own personal experience, says that the most important and impactful thing we can do for our public schools is to recruit, support and retain the highest-quality educators," Clinton said, according to an excerpt of the meeting. She continued: "Where I come from, teachers are the solution. And I strongly believe that unions are part of the solution, too."


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Hillary Clinton Sounds Off On Education Issues: 'We've Gotten Off Track In What We Test' (Original Post) Agschmid Jul 2015 OP
KNR. Great endorsement. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #1
Well remember it's not really and endorsement from me... Agschmid Jul 2015 #2
Oh I was referring to the AFT endorsement. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #3
What's her position on charter schools? ibegurpard Jul 2015 #4
From her interview questionnaire..... Historic NY Jul 2015 #9
So she's going to continue the Obama policy ibegurpard Jul 2015 #23
NEA hasn't endorsed yet, but it will probably endorse Hillary. madfloridian Jul 2015 #5
I think you mean NEA BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #7
LOL.... BooScout Jul 2015 #10
The privatizers are winning nikto Jul 2015 #6
Charter schools here are public free schools and are different from private schools Sheepshank Jul 2015 #16
Are your Charter Schools non-profit? nikto Jul 2015 #20
They Operate with state funds and are non profit Sheepshank Jul 2015 #21
So, yes, they are siphoning funding from public schools. ibegurpard Jul 2015 #22
The Key Words: NON-PROFIT nikto Jul 2015 #24
A related article you might want to check out ... nikto Jul 2015 #25
Just correcting the record! BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #8
Hillary Clinton: ".. teachers are the solution... I strongly believe that unions are part of the so riversedge Jul 2015 #11
We asked members: Who shares our values? Who can win? Who do you support? Answer to all 3 was clear: riversedge Jul 2015 #12
This is a great endorsement Gothmog Jul 2015 #13
I'd like to hear her say also druidity33 Jul 2015 #14
Kick & Recommended. William769 Jul 2015 #15
K & R Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #17
KnR! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #18
Thank you, Agschmid! Cha Jul 2015 #19

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
2. Well remember it's not really and endorsement from me...
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 02:45 AM
Jul 2015

Just lots of false information here tonight, and it ticked me off so I posted some other information so it wasn't so one sided.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
3. Oh I was referring to the AFT endorsement.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 02:49 AM
Jul 2015

But it's good to see someone willing to keep this place honest. Kudos to you!

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
4. What's her position on charter schools?
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 03:23 AM
Jul 2015

One of a number of issues where Obama has been a great disappointment.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
9. From her interview questionnaire.....
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 06:30 AM
Jul 2015

Charters should be held to the same standards, and to the same level of accountability and
transparency to which traditional public schools are held. This includes the requirements of civil
rights laws. They can innovate and help improve educational practices. But I also believe that
we must go back to the original purpose of charter schools. Where charters are succeeding, we
should be doing more to ensure that their innovations can be widely disseminated throughout
our traditional public school system. Where they are failing, they should be closed.


http://www.aft.org/election2016/candidate-questionnaire-hillary-rodham-clinton

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
23. So she's going to continue the Obama policy
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jul 2015

Of supporting education privatization and corporate education "reform" good to know

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
5. NEA hasn't endorsed yet, but it will probably endorse Hillary.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 03:32 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Sun Jul 12, 2015, 10:50 AM - Edit history (1)

Someone just shared a link with me, but haven't had time to figure the implications of unions' close ties to the Clinton foundation.

http://press.clintonglobalinitiative.org/press_releases/nyc-teacher-pension-fund-pledges-1-billion-to-investments-in-post-sandy-reconstruction-and-other-critical-infrastructure/

The unions have gone along pretty much with the Arne Duncan strategy. So I doubt any will endorse Bernie, but I surely do think the membership will overwhelmingly.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
6. The privatizers are winning
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 04:41 AM
Jul 2015

I'm just sad that we do not live in an age where a prominent politician can condemn the principle of school privatization
(via Charters) for everyone to hear. Even some of the Union leadership seems to support Arne Duncan these days (which implies corruption in the Union, to me).

My God, what has happened to this country?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
16. Charter schools here are public free schools and are different from private schools
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jul 2015

I admit that charters are popping up with more frequency and do need to have more clear and equal playing field rules established, but I had not considered their viability until one of my own children needed out of the regimented system and a more alternative schooling. My goal,is to get her graduated from high school....college will be its own new and likely more compatible environment. There is a place for them.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
20. Are your Charter Schools non-profit?
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 08:00 PM
Jul 2015

Here in CA, the charter schools don't charge either, they just siphon-off the taxpayers' money and do as they wish behind an opaque wall. Only the least-problematic students fit the business model. All others are excluded or expelled.

As soon as the "for-profit" situation is allowed in Public Education, the scum-bag investor-bankster-types line up at the trough, all the while spewing garbage about how horrible teachers and their unions are.
It's just about all bad.


It is a disgusting process and a Legal rip-off.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
24. The Key Words: NON-PROFIT
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:13 AM
Jul 2015

Regarding Public Ed policy and for-profit interest$, you are lucky to live where you live.
Always Make sure it stays that way, if you can.

AS far as I know, the troubles with Charter Schools are mostly (all?) in the
For-Profit states.

In California, it has become a cruel joke (and a crime, IMO) as the business-friendly courts
and the Chamber Of Commerce keep enabling this BS, whle the local corporate newspapers constantly
hammer and smear the teacher unions, and teachers.

If anyone in your state tries to make your Public Ed for-profit,
at all costs, stop them!

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
25. A related article you might want to check out ...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 03:48 AM
Jul 2015

Privatization is spreading to rural areas as well as urban districts.

Beware, and be prepared.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/10/the-corporatizing-of-rural-schools/

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
11. Hillary Clinton: ".. teachers are the solution... I strongly believe that unions are part of the so
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 07:19 AM
Jul 2015

Tweet:
Hillary Clinton: ".. teachers are the solution... I strongly believe that unions are part of the solution" http://huff.to/1KTHLSL #voteblue

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
12. We asked members: Who shares our values? Who can win? Who do you support? Answer to all 3 was clear:
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 07:33 AM
Jul 2015


Tweet:
Correct The Record retweeted
Randi Weingarten ‏@rweingarten 14h14 hours ago

We asked members: Who shares our values? Who can win? Who do you support? Answer to all 3 was clear: @HillaryClinton http://aft.to/hillary

http://www.aft.org/press-release/american-federation-teachers-endorses-hillary-clinton-president

The AFT's endorsement comes a month after Clinton attended an executive council meeting in Washington, D.C. At that meeting, she said, "It is just dead wrong to make teachers the scapegoats for all of society's problems. Where I come from, teachers are the solution. And I strongly believe that unions are part of the solution, too."

Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley also spoke with the executive council at that meeting. All potential and announced candidates were invited to complete a questionnaire, and those who returned the questionnaire were invited to meet with the council. No Republican candidates responded to the invitation.

The AFT has conducted a long, deliberative process to assess which candidate would best champion the issues of importance to our members, their families and communities. Members have been engaged online, through the "You Decide" website, through several telephone town halls, and through multiple surveys—reaching more than 1 million members.

Additionally, over the past few weeks, the AFT has conducted a scientific poll of our membership on the candidates and key issues. The top issues members raised were jobs and the economy and public education. Seventy-nine percent of our members who vote in Democratic primaries said we should endorse a candidate. And by more than a 3-to-1 margin, these members said the AFT should endorse Clinton.............
- See more at: http://www.aft.org/press-release/american-federation-teachers-endorses-hillary-clinton-president#sthash.hPvJtex7.dpuf

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
14. I'd like to hear her say also
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 09:45 AM
Jul 2015

that NCLB was a failure, Charter schools need to play by the same rules as Public schools, that mandatory testing needs to be done away with... not reconfigured, that Race to the Top should eliminate teacher grading, etc.





Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
17. K & R
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jul 2015

Great endorsements, education is a vital part of a strong working society. Hillary has been strong on education for a very long time even with her own path to her education.

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