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LWolf

(46,179 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:02 PM Jul 2015

AFT Endorsement Of Clinton Shows Lack Of Democratic Process

The American Federation of Teachers endorsed Hillary Clinton’s candidacy on Saturday night, July 11th. Almost immediately there was a backlash on Facebook and Twitter from teachers across the country who pointed out that no one ever asked which candidate they would prefer. Concerned teachers have begun to speculate that Randi Weingarten, AFT President and former President of New York City’s UFT, pushed the endorsement forward because she thinks her long friendship with Hillary since her days as a NY Senator could win her a nomination of Secretary of Education. This decision to endorse Hillary Clinton before a single debate has taken place is problematic because Hillary does not represent rank and file teachers and because this premature endorsement speaks to a lack of accountability and democratic governance within teacher’s unions across the United States.

The Trouble with Clinton

As her husband did during his two terms in the White House, Hillary has a long history of talking progressive but ‘triangulating’ when she thinks it will win votes or campaign contributions. Triangulating is a fancy way to say supporting conservative policies with either liberal rhetoric or the excuse that it will win over centrists and independents to the Democratic side. Bill Clinton did it with welfare reform and NAFTA, and Hillary has done it with hawkish foreign policy and education “reform.” She pays lip service to the idea that students are more than a test score, but she supported No Child Left Behind and now says that it “saddens” her when she hears parents and teachers criticizing and attacking the Common Core standards which have led to an ever-increasing emphasis on testing and punishing teachers based on test scores. Her education PAC similarly talks about pro teacher policy but uses the oft-repeated conservative slogan that students are “trapped in failing schools” and that by implication these schools are packed with “bad teachers” who must be punished into stepping it up or fired. There are all sorts of problems with the argument that teachers are solely to blame for student performance and that teaching is the only matter to focus on, not poverty and the whole child’s well being. Given that Citigroup, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase make up three of Hillary’s top five campaign donors and that she has a close relationship with billionaire “reform” pushers like Bill Gates, it seems extremely likely that she will push privatizing and high stakes testing while using her shiny new AFT endorsement to show that she has the support of classroom teachers and is working on their behalf.

The Problem with the AFT’s Process

The American Federation of Teachers’ most powerful local is the United Federation of Teachers in New York City since New York has the largest school system with a million students and since AFT President Randi Weingarten (who had one year in a Brooklyn classroom before working for the union) started out as President of the UFT. From the very beginning, New York City teachers saw Weingarten as an opportunist seeking to advance her own political career rather than a genuine labor leader who would organize and fight to protect teachers. Multibillionaire mayor Michael Bloomberg even introduced Weingarten at DC conferences as an example of what can be accomplished when unions and government cooperate rather than conflict, which sounds a lot like a Wall Street CEO saying that an SEC regulator is doing a good job of cooperating with investment bankers. Her job was to fight for teachers and students, not to make nice with the mayor.


http://reverbpress.com/politics/aft-endorsement-clinton-shows-lack-democratic-process/
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AFT Endorsement Of Clinton Shows Lack Of Democratic Process (Original Post) LWolf Jul 2015 OP
Hasn't this poor - and extremely dead - horse ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #1
You'd sure think... Agschmid Jul 2015 #2
Perhaps that horse isn't really dead ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #5
Not friends with many teachers, are you? No, you don't get to declare this over. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #8
The AFT accounts for less than half than the current # of teachers in America... Agschmid Jul 2015 #10
The AFT has 1.6 million members - ALL were able to participate in the endorsement process.... George II Jul 2015 #24
Yes I am aware... Agschmid Jul 2015 #25
Didn't mean to push against you, just putting the numbers out there for everyone to read... George II Jul 2015 #29
Yup. Agschmid Jul 2015 #31
The NEA will most likely endorse Hillary as well. madfloridian Jul 2015 #27
Yes it appears so. Agschmid Jul 2015 #28
I've met plenty. LWolf Jul 2015 #33
I didn't declare anything over. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #12
bullshit HERVEPA Jul 2015 #14
Nope. LWolf Jul 2015 #18
The beatings will continue until morale is improved. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #22
Be ready for more, there will be more endorsements for all the candidates and they will happen soon. Agschmid Jul 2015 #3
And every HRC endorsement ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #7
With many unhappy horses... Agschmid Jul 2015 #9
Yep shenmue Jul 2015 #13
That's fine, LWolf Jul 2015 #19
See my post above - almost 70% of the membership of AFT chose Clinton! George II Jul 2015 #26
Random blog says something. Love the links at the top of their page. onehandle Jul 2015 #4
Oh snap... Agschmid Jul 2015 #6
The key here is understanding the NYC union and the stranglehold it has over AFT. Smarmie Doofus Jul 2015 #11
Yes. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #34
No one is going to pay any attention to Winegarten's endorsement martigras Jul 2015 #15
It is silly... and it didn't happen. Agschmid Jul 2015 #16
Yes, we are independent enough to make up our own minds, LWolf Jul 2015 #20
Actually, a very large portion WILL be backing that endorsement. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #23
No, to think otherwise LWolf Jul 2015 #32
So do the polls and other stuff... come on people, this gets silly. uponit7771 Jul 2015 #17
What, exactly, is silly about it? nt LWolf Jul 2015 #21
Not a surprise (anymore) and probably more to come... SoapBox Jul 2015 #30

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
10. The AFT accounts for less than half than the current # of teachers in America...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:22 PM
Jul 2015

It's likely many of us have never met a AFT member.

The National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) projected that a little over 3.6 million teachers are employed in public and private elementary and secondary schools in 2007-2008. For more information, please click here.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. The AFT has 1.6 million members - ALL were able to participate in the endorsement process....
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:18 AM
Jul 2015

...and about 1.1 million did. Those that did chose Hillary Clinton by a margin of 3-1!

It's over.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
25. Yes I am aware...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:20 AM
Jul 2015

I am saying the "anecdotal" of my friends didn't get to vote, are bull.

On this issue we are on the same side, no need to push back against me.

George II

(67,782 posts)
29. Didn't mean to push against you, just putting the numbers out there for everyone to read...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:24 AM
Jul 2015

....I've done this three times tonight, many are still saying they didn't get to participate. Like you said, bull.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
33. I've met plenty.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jul 2015

I'm not AFT; I'm NEA. We DO talk to each other across our associations, though.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
3. Be ready for more, there will be more endorsements for all the candidates and they will happen soon.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:08 PM
Jul 2015

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
7. And every HRC endorsement ...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:15 PM
Jul 2015

... will be followed by a truly fabulous conspiracy theory as to the nefarious goings-on that led to it.

It's going to be a very amusing summer.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
11. The key here is understanding the NYC union and the stranglehold it has over AFT.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:23 PM
Jul 2015

And the key passage would be here:

>>>>You might ask why teacher’s union members don’t just vote out the union leaders that are making decisions without asking their members and refusing to support the rank and file. The same dynamic that exists in national politics also plays out in union elections: the parties that are run by well-funded opportunists have an easier time getting out the vote than the opposition. For example, in New York City the ruling Unity caucus which has controlled the UFT for six decades has rigged elections with a “winner take all” system which allows them to keep all delegates to the AFT convention as long as they get the majority of the vote. They keep their people loyal through patronage, handing out jobs and perks to people who sign up with them, and require all who accept a position as a delegate or union employee to sign a loyalty oath stating that the member will never criticize Unity Caucus. If a country in the Middle East ran the way Unity Caucus runs the New York City teacher’s union, our Congress would be debating whether to bomb them. New York City teachers are so demoralized about their union’s lack of accountability that only 18% of working teachers voted in the last union election.>>>>


And the key terms there are "perks", "patronage", "loyalty oath" and "18% " ( i.e. ) voter participation.

K and R

martigras

(151 posts)
15. No one is going to pay any attention to Winegarten's endorsement
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:09 PM
Jul 2015

Teacher's are well educated and independent enough to make up their own minds. They are also critical thinkers who can see Hillary's inability to separate from Wall St. and her big donors as a good reason not to vote for her. The notion that any union would endorse without consulting it's members is silly.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
20. Yes, we are independent enough to make up our own minds,
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:32 PM
Jul 2015

and, based on the reaction so far, a very large number won't be backing that endorsement.

It's the AFT members complaining about being left out of the loop, plus Weingarten's relationship with HRC, that is at issue.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
23. Actually, a very large portion WILL be backing that endorsement.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:17 AM
Jul 2015

To think otherwise is woo territory.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
32. No, to think otherwise
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:54 PM
Jul 2015

is to be a teacher connected with many, many other teachers, both locally, across my state, and across the nation.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
30. Not a surprise (anymore) and probably more to come...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:36 AM
Jul 2015

HRC has a cozy relationship with What's Her Name that is at the head of this, so, eh...just another Head Of Something, flexing their connections.

Given the chance I'm sure we will hear and see more Power and Control Banksters types waving at HRC yelling, Don't Forget About Me!

I'll side with the candidate that doesn't want $250,000 to give a speech.

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