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peacebird

(14,195 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:10 AM Jul 2015

"I sometimes think I didn't leave the Republican party" Hillary wrote "as much as it left me"

Since we're playing with the way back machine and Bernies writings from the sixties, let's have a taste of Hillary....

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17388372/ns/politics-decision_08/t/reading-hillary-rodhams-hidden-thesis/#.VaUXOWK9KSM


On edit - the purpose here is to show how silly it is to drag out stuff like this from 46 years ago. People grow and change.

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"I sometimes think I didn't leave the Republican party" Hillary wrote "as much as it left me" (Original Post) peacebird Jul 2015 OP
She's been a registered Democrat for close to 50 years.... BooScout Jul 2015 #1
I didn't start playing with the way back machine, not sure things written 46 years ago matter much. peacebird Jul 2015 #2
You sure you aren't quoting Elizabeth Warren? Or have "progressives" decided that she belongs DanTex Jul 2015 #3
My post was to show how stupid it is to drag out writings from 46 years ago. peacebird Jul 2015 #4
OK. Fair enough. DanTex Jul 2015 #6
"I sometimes think I didn't lose the Democratic party" Wilms said "as much as it was stolen from me" Wilms Jul 2015 #5
Exactly! peacebird Jul 2015 #8
So your saying that Hillary Clinton decided the 1969 Republican sufrommich Jul 2015 #7
Hi, you must've been typing while I was, please reread OP, I explained why it was posted. peacebird Jul 2015 #9
It seems like it would make more sense to compare what they were sufrommich Jul 2015 #10
Are you implying Hillary's comments of the Repube Party from the 60's is equal Darb Jul 2015 #11
Obviously not kenfrequed Jul 2015 #12
Thank you! peacebird Jul 2015 #14
Why do you think people are taking a trip in the way back machine with Sanders? wyldwolf Jul 2015 #13
Probably because... kenfrequed Jul 2015 #15
How about this. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #16
progressives are masters of digging stuff up? kenfrequed Jul 2015 #17
um, yeah wyldwolf Jul 2015 #18
Or maybe... kenfrequed Jul 2015 #21
This is a pretty interesting read. LWolf Jul 2015 #19
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #20

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
2. I didn't start playing with the way back machine, not sure things written 46 years ago matter much.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:16 AM
Jul 2015

People grow. However, here's another snippet for you:


He began to brainstorm what such an ad might look like:
"You have to make it relevant to world events today.
"Maybe you look at the contrast. What year did Hillary write this paper? 1969.
"And where was John McCain in 1969? A POW in Vietnam."

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. You sure you aren't quoting Elizabeth Warren? Or have "progressives" decided that she belongs
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:16 AM
Jul 2015

under the bus too.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
4. My post was to show how stupid it is to drag out writings from 46 years ago.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:17 AM
Jul 2015

People grow, people change.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
5. "I sometimes think I didn't lose the Democratic party" Wilms said "as much as it was stolen from me"
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jul 2015

^T^H^I^R^D ^W^A^Y

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
7. So your saying that Hillary Clinton decided the 1969 Republican
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jul 2015

party was too conservative? Is that a bad thing?

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
11. Are you implying Hillary's comments of the Repube Party from the 60's is equal
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:12 PM
Jul 2015

to Bernie's ejaculation/cancer/flouride stuff?

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
12. Obviously not
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jul 2015

What she is saying that if you have to dig almost fifty years past a candidates wonderful record in order to find something controversial then maybe you aren't as concerned with who they are today and what they stand for today.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
15. Probably because...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:25 PM
Jul 2015

They have nothing they can really confront him with in terms of policy.

Sorry, but his record and the legislation he has supported is pretty solid.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
16. How about this.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jul 2015






And on... and on... and on...

'Progressives' are masters at digging things up.

In 2003 Josh Marshall of Talkingpoint memo wrote this about Dean supporters. It applies perfectly to Sanders supporter:

There is an awfully distressing tendency among a minority of Dean supporters to serve up no end of lacerating comments about other candidates and then to react with a sort of stunned and outraged shock when anyone criticizes their guy.

If you don't like it in regards to your candidate, perhaps you should ask others in your camp to tone it down themselves?

By the way, if you think Sanders is going to escape the primary season without a lot of scrapes and bruises, you're wrong. There's oppo research a-plenty on him. No one is taking him serious enough yet to reveal it.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
17. progressives are masters of digging stuff up?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:38 PM
Jul 2015

Your opposition research doesn't seem to be able to put up anything that isn't 40 years old so far.

And the Goldwater girl thing was sort of a contrast to Bernies time in the civil rights movement. You know, we brought that up because of the humongous stink that your people made about the monochromatic optics of his campaign announcement.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
18. um, yeah
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:44 PM
Jul 2015
Your opposition research doesn't seem to be able to put up anything that isn't 40 years old so far.


MY opposition research, lol.

Um, yeah. Opposition research is coming. Have fun with it. I know I will.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
21. Or maybe...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:55 PM
Jul 2015

You could just choose a candidate based on policies and the issues today?

Wouldn't that be a better choice than trying to go through all this nonsense?


I don't care what dirt is dug up by your candidate or the republican party. I am basing my support on the candidate that has been a lot more consistent on almost every issue I care about. I am sorry you just don't see it that way.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
19. This is a pretty interesting read.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:50 PM
Jul 2015

I give her a pass for having been a goldwater girl; it's common for young people to start out with their parents' ideology and then break away from that as they move into a more independent adult life. People grow and change.

It's fascinating to look at the way she has shifted and evolved over the years. Unlike those earliest "coming of age" shifts, she seems to shift her stances, or pretend to shift them, in a continuous process triangulation.

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