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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:06 AM Jul 2015

Hillary Clinton Gives Iran Nuclear Deal "“Full-Throated Endorsement.”

She speaks after meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill in Washington.

Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that based on what she knows about the deal that Iran and world powers reached Tuesday, the agreement is an “important step” in putting the lid on that nation's nuclear program.

Clinton spoke after meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill in Washington. She didn't specifically urge members to support the deal or discuss the potential challenge of protecting it against Republican congressional majorities that appear broadly opposed to it, several Democratic lawmakers said.

“She said this was the same kind of arms agreement that other presidents have worked on, but much more important because of the tenor of the times, and what's going on in the region,” Representative Louise Slaughter said, predicting Democrats would have the votes to sustain a presidential veto if it came to that.

“She thinks it's a very positive development.”
Representative Gerry Connolly

Representative Gerry Connolly of Virginia said Clinton had given the deal a “full-throated endorsement.” Facing the cameras, Clinton was measured, saying the agreement would have to be enforced “vigorously” and Iran’s “bad behavior” on human rights must be addressed.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-14/hillary-clinton-aide-iran-nuclear-deal-really-significant-

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Hillary Clinton Gives Iran Nuclear Deal "“Full-Throated Endorsement.” (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 OP
Now lets hear from Bernie. DCBob Jul 2015 #1
I disagree. There will NOT be one Democratic candidate against this deal. On the other hand, I doubt still_one Jul 2015 #3
You are right.. I take it back.. see below. DCBob Jul 2015 #4
He is no more "pro Israel" than Hillary karynnj Jul 2015 #20
HRC actually said regardless of the nuclear talks, she would lead a new coalition against Iran: vid leveymg Jul 2015 #38
Bernie was, I believe, the first Democrat to refuse to listen to Netanyahu's speech in the Senate. djean111 Jul 2015 #28
Actually, this could go into the general discussion group also, because it is independent of the still_one Jul 2015 #2
I posted the same article over in LBN... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #6
Even better, thanks still_one Jul 2015 #11
My post in GD that reported her statement she would "form a new coalition" against Iran was locked leveymg Jul 2015 #39
I think the endorsement of such a deal is a Primary platform issue Sheepshank Jul 2015 #5
I absolutely agree, and am glad she came quickly out on this still_one Jul 2015 #14
Good to hear. think Jul 2015 #7
What the hell is a "full-throated endorsement"? Avalux Jul 2015 #8
I believe it means that she spoke firmly and clearly in favor of it. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #9
That's my point. Avalux Jul 2015 #13
"At any rate, jokes are being made and it's ridiculous." NCTraveler Jul 2015 #15
I don't understand why you're giving me a hard time. Avalux Jul 2015 #19
"At any rate, jokes are being made and it's ridiculous." NCTraveler Jul 2015 #21
See this post: Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #16
Here you go. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #10
Glad you dared to say that--as a woman, I didn't. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #12
+1. DanTex Jul 2015 #24
Have you noticed that the religious sector of conservatism usually are Iliyah Jul 2015 #30
There was an OP on DU today suggesting Hillary would try to undermine the deal. So some need to Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #18
I had read earlier this week that there was speculation that the opponents could use Clinton karynnj Jul 2015 #22
I just read on DU that Hillary was responsible for global warming..... Walk away Jul 2015 #29
It's a common expression. cyberswede Jul 2015 #23
There's no innuendo there. bvf Jul 2015 #33
It's a common, non-sexual term. George II Jul 2015 #34
K&R! JaneyVee Jul 2015 #17
This Means that the Deal with Iran is Going to Happen McKim Jul 2015 #25
War is what Bibi does best. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #26
K & R Iliyah Jul 2015 #27
It's always good to have policy endorsed by world known expert! Walk away Jul 2015 #31
I can certainly bear firsthand witness to BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #32
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2015 #35
Mahalo SG! Cha Jul 2015 #36
Hi again! Glad you got here! Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #37
K&R! ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #40

still_one

(92,190 posts)
3. I disagree. There will NOT be one Democratic candidate against this deal. On the other hand, I doubt
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:12 AM
Jul 2015

there will be one republican candidate for this deal

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
20. He is no more "pro Israel" than Hillary
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jul 2015

I am happy that HRC had positive things to say. The only comment I worry about is where she speaks of human rights. The State Department included Iran in both their terrorism and human rights reports that were both issue last month. The nuclear deal specifically did not deal with these issues.

I hope that does not get twisted as a deficit in the deal itself.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
38. HRC actually said regardless of the nuclear talks, she would lead a new coalition against Iran: vid
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:49 AM
Jul 2015
http://www.politico.com/multimedia/video/2015/07/hillary-clintons-full-remarks-on-iran-deal.html?ml=tl_8_b

In the latter part of her address, linked above, she stated she's immediately going to form a coalition to sanction "bad" Iran for being a regional rival that Israel and the Sunni states don't like. In her speech, she said "bad" and "Iran" in the same sentence half a dozen times.

In other words, she now says disarming Iran's nuclear program is just step one in Hillary's plan to eliminate Iran as a regional power - "the world's greatest terrorist threat, an existential threat to Israel, does bad things within Sunni Arabia, blah, blah." Bottom line, HRC adds further confirmation she'll push like hell to be at war with Iran within a year of her Inauguration.

Listen to what she's saying. She isn't playing 8-D chess. She's a committed neocon who wants further conflict with Iran regardless of the outcome of nuclear talks.

I wholely disagree with anyone who states that anyone in DC, aside from Tom Cotton, is more pro-Israel and anti-Iran than Hillary Clinton. That's the point she's making, as well.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
28. Bernie was, I believe, the first Democrat to refuse to listen to Netanyahu's speech in the Senate.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jul 2015

Also, Bernie actually has to VOTE on this; Hillary is just campaigning.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
2. Actually, this could go into the general discussion group also, because it is independent of the
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jul 2015

primaries


leveymg

(36,418 posts)
39. My post in GD that reported her statement she would "form a new coalition" against Iran was locked
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:53 AM
Jul 2015

after it got 34 recs in a few minutes - that particular moderator claimed it should be in GD-P.

This OP omits that part, thus mischaracterizes Hillary's statement as embracing a peaceful settlement with Iran. Watch it yourself, particularly the last two minutes, and decide whether she's really embracing a negotiated settlement.

http://www.politico.com/multimedia/video/2015/07/hillary-clintons-full-remarks-on-iran-deal.html?ml=tl_8_b

In her address, linked above, she stated she's immediately going to form a coalition to sanction "bad" Iran for being a regional rival that Israel and the Sunni states don't like. In her speech, she said "bad" and "Iran" in the same sentence over and over again.

In other words, she now says disarming Iran's nuclear program is just step one in Hillary's plan to eliminate Iran as a regional power - "the world's greatest terrorist threat, an existential threat to Israel, does bad things within Sunni Arabia, blah, blah" Bottom line, HRC adds further confirmation she'll push like hell to be at war with Iran within a year of her Inauguration.

Listen to what she's saying. She isn't playing 8-D chess. She's a committed neocon who wants further conflict with Iran regardless of the outcome of nuclear talks.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
5. I think the endorsement of such a deal is a Primary platform issue
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jul 2015

and I wouldn't be surprised if the issue isn't include in the GE debates.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
8. What the hell is a "full-throated endorsement"?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jul 2015

Maybe I'm being too sensitive here, but using those words seems a bit ulterior since Hillary's a woman. I don't think Gerry would have chosen them if she were a man. If I'm wrong tell me, but I don't like the innuendo.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. I believe it means that she spoke firmly and clearly in favor of it.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:21 AM
Jul 2015

Why read an 'innuendo' that wasn't meant?

Of course, they're making LOLs and nasty jokes over on Free Republic, but then that's to be expected.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
13. That's my point.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:29 AM
Jul 2015

Maybe it wasn't meant that way, or maybe it was? At any rate, jokes are being made and it's ridiculous. "Whole-hearted" would have been a much better, benign phrase.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
15. "At any rate, jokes are being made and it's ridiculous."
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jul 2015

Link?

""Whole-hearted" would have been a much better, benign phrase."

It wouldn't have sidetracked you this morning, that's for sure.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
19. I don't understand why you're giving me a hard time.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:35 AM
Jul 2015

Being a writer, I am obsessed with words and their meanings, and what the reader might get from them.

I was making an observation, and expressing that I didn't like it. Sorry to upset you.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
21. "At any rate, jokes are being made and it's ridiculous."
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:47 AM
Jul 2015

Link? The association is coming from you. Directly from you. You are a writer and aren't familiar with a very common phrase in this instance?

Yes, it upset me that many people think throat and woman and the first thing that pops into their mind is a dick. You made a direct association that no one else here did. On top of that, you are now claiming to be a writer and that is justification. You are a writer who has no idea as to such a common phrase? google couldn't help before you dropped the sexual association? You did that. No one else.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. Here you go.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jul 2015
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/american/full-throated

Amazing to me that people can see the word "throat" being associated with a woman in a completely non-sexual manner and all they can think about is a dick in it.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
30. Have you noticed that the religious sector of conservatism usually are
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jul 2015

knocking sex, sex, sex, any kind, unless, ahem, its them. And women's purpose in life is to make lots of babies, care for them and be subservient to men folks.

A strong women is taboo.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. There was an OP on DU today suggesting Hillary would try to undermine the deal. So some need to
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:34 AM
Jul 2015

here that her endorsement was unfettered and complete. Apparently.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
22. I had read earlier this week that there was speculation that the opponents could use Clinton
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:52 AM
Jul 2015

defeat it by having her rally Democrats against it. This never made sense because one of her credentials is being Obama's SoS. As such, the more successful Obama's foreign policy appears, the better for her. Not to mention, she had a role at the beginning of this -- and her biggest contribution might be helping gather support for it.


Walk away

(9,494 posts)
29. I just read on DU that Hillary was responsible for global warming.....
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jul 2015

so I think it's a given that there will always be a Bernie Sanders fan willing to blame her for everything bad in the past, present or future!

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
23. It's a common expression.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:02 PM
Jul 2015
full-throated (ˌfʊlˈθrəʊtɪd)
Definitions
adjective

(of a voice, laugh, shout, etc) using the full range or power ⇒ "full-throated singing"

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/full-throated



 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
33. There's no innuendo there.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jul 2015

Just because a certain contingent of juveniles lives with its collective mind in the gutter doesn't mean you have to join the party.

Some people go by Edwin Newman; others by Beavis and Butthead ("Heh-heh. You said 'tool'," e.g.)

Grow up.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
25. This Means that the Deal with Iran is Going to Happen
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jul 2015

I am pleased that this main stream Democratic Party candidate is endorsing the agreement with Iran. If she thinks it is politically safe to say this, then that means that the powers that be are going to see that it happens. This agreement could mean a safer Israel. We have to question why Netanyahu and AIPAC are so against this agreement when it is a step forward in ensuring the safety and long term best interests of Israel. Why do they always want war?

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
31. It's always good to have policy endorsed by world known expert!
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jul 2015

Except for the crazy pants republicans, Hillary's opinion on global politics is highly respected all over the world.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
32. I can certainly bear firsthand witness to
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 02:13 PM
Jul 2015

the fact that Hillary's opinion on global politics is highly respected in those areas of the world where I have lived and worked - in both industrialized and developing nations.

Just as it was for JFK, in many ways both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton may be more appreciated around the world for their admirable qualities than they are at home in the US. Some of us have seen both sides and know this well.

A good shout-out to the long, hard, and dedicated work of SoS John Kerry and his staff as well!

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