2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Gives Iran Nuclear Deal "“Full-Throated Endorsement.”
She speaks after meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill in Washington.Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that based on what she knows about the deal that Iran and world powers reached Tuesday, the agreement is an important step in putting the lid on that nation's nuclear program.
Clinton spoke after meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill in Washington. She didn't specifically urge members to support the deal or discuss the potential challenge of protecting it against Republican congressional majorities that appear broadly opposed to it, several Democratic lawmakers said.
She said this was the same kind of arms agreement that other presidents have worked on, but much more important because of the tenor of the times, and what's going on in the region, Representative Louise Slaughter said, predicting Democrats would have the votes to sustain a presidential veto if it came to that.
She thinks it's a very positive development.
Representative Gerry Connolly
Representative Gerry Connolly of Virginia said Clinton had given the deal a full-throated endorsement. Facing the cameras, Clinton was measured, saying the agreement would have to be enforced vigorously and Irans bad behavior on human rights must be addressed.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-14/hillary-clinton-aide-iran-nuclear-deal-really-significant-
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Well, done, Hills.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Being so pro-Israel he might have a more tepid endorsement.
still_one
(92,190 posts)there will be one republican candidate for this deal
DCBob
(24,689 posts)karynnj
(59,503 posts)I am happy that HRC had positive things to say. The only comment I worry about is where she speaks of human rights. The State Department included Iran in both their terrorism and human rights reports that were both issue last month. The nuclear deal specifically did not deal with these issues.
I hope that does not get twisted as a deficit in the deal itself.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)In the latter part of her address, linked above, she stated she's immediately going to form a coalition to sanction "bad" Iran for being a regional rival that Israel and the Sunni states don't like. In her speech, she said "bad" and "Iran" in the same sentence half a dozen times.
In other words, she now says disarming Iran's nuclear program is just step one in Hillary's plan to eliminate Iran as a regional power - "the world's greatest terrorist threat, an existential threat to Israel, does bad things within Sunni Arabia, blah, blah." Bottom line, HRC adds further confirmation she'll push like hell to be at war with Iran within a year of her Inauguration.
Listen to what she's saying. She isn't playing 8-D chess. She's a committed neocon who wants further conflict with Iran regardless of the outcome of nuclear talks.
I wholely disagree with anyone who states that anyone in DC, aside from Tom Cotton, is more pro-Israel and anti-Iran than Hillary Clinton. That's the point she's making, as well.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Also, Bernie actually has to VOTE on this; Hillary is just campaigning.
still_one
(92,190 posts)primaries
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)after it got 34 recs in a few minutes - that particular moderator claimed it should be in GD-P.
This OP omits that part, thus mischaracterizes Hillary's statement as embracing a peaceful settlement with Iran. Watch it yourself, particularly the last two minutes, and decide whether she's really embracing a negotiated settlement.
http://www.politico.com/multimedia/video/2015/07/hillary-clintons-full-remarks-on-iran-deal.html?ml=tl_8_b
In her address, linked above, she stated she's immediately going to form a coalition to sanction "bad" Iran for being a regional rival that Israel and the Sunni states don't like. In her speech, she said "bad" and "Iran" in the same sentence over and over again.
In other words, she now says disarming Iran's nuclear program is just step one in Hillary's plan to eliminate Iran as a regional power - "the world's greatest terrorist threat, an existential threat to Israel, does bad things within Sunni Arabia, blah, blah" Bottom line, HRC adds further confirmation she'll push like hell to be at war with Iran within a year of her Inauguration.
Listen to what she's saying. She isn't playing 8-D chess. She's a committed neocon who wants further conflict with Iran regardless of the outcome of nuclear talks.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)and I wouldn't be surprised if the issue isn't include in the GE debates.
still_one
(92,190 posts)think
(11,641 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)Maybe I'm being too sensitive here, but using those words seems a bit ulterior since Hillary's a woman. I don't think Gerry would have chosen them if she were a man. If I'm wrong tell me, but I don't like the innuendo.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Why read an 'innuendo' that wasn't meant?
Of course, they're making LOLs and nasty jokes over on Free Republic, but then that's to be expected.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Maybe it wasn't meant that way, or maybe it was? At any rate, jokes are being made and it's ridiculous. "Whole-hearted" would have been a much better, benign phrase.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Link?
""Whole-hearted" would have been a much better, benign phrase."
It wouldn't have sidetracked you this morning, that's for sure.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Being a writer, I am obsessed with words and their meanings, and what the reader might get from them.
I was making an observation, and expressing that I didn't like it. Sorry to upset you.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Link? The association is coming from you. Directly from you. You are a writer and aren't familiar with a very common phrase in this instance?
Yes, it upset me that many people think throat and woman and the first thing that pops into their mind is a dick. You made a direct association that no one else here did. On top of that, you are now claiming to be a writer and that is justification. You are a writer who has no idea as to such a common phrase? google couldn't help before you dropped the sexual association? You did that. No one else.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Amazing to me that people can see the word "throat" being associated with a woman in a completely non-sexual manner and all they can think about is a dick in it.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)knocking sex, sex, sex, any kind, unless, ahem, its them. And women's purpose in life is to make lots of babies, care for them and be subservient to men folks.
A strong women is taboo.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)here that her endorsement was unfettered and complete. Apparently.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)defeat it by having her rally Democrats against it. This never made sense because one of her credentials is being Obama's SoS. As such, the more successful Obama's foreign policy appears, the better for her. Not to mention, she had a role at the beginning of this -- and her biggest contribution might be helping gather support for it.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)so I think it's a given that there will always be a Bernie Sanders fan willing to blame her for everything bad in the past, present or future!
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Definitions
adjective
(of a voice, laugh, shout, etc) using the full range or power ⇒ "full-throated singing"
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/full-throated
bvf
(6,604 posts)Just because a certain contingent of juveniles lives with its collective mind in the gutter doesn't mean you have to join the party.
Some people go by Edwin Newman; others by Beavis and Butthead ("Heh-heh. You said 'tool'," e.g.)
Grow up.
George II
(67,782 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)I am pleased that this main stream Democratic Party candidate is endorsing the agreement with Iran. If she thinks it is politically safe to say this, then that means that the powers that be are going to see that it happens. This agreement could mean a safer Israel. We have to question why Netanyahu and AIPAC are so against this agreement when it is a step forward in ensuring the safety and long term best interests of Israel. Why do they always want war?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Except for the crazy pants republicans, Hillary's opinion on global politics is highly respected all over the world.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)the fact that Hillary's opinion on global politics is highly respected in those areas of the world where I have lived and worked - in both industrialized and developing nations.
Just as it was for JFK, in many ways both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton may be more appreciated around the world for their admirable qualities than they are at home in the US. Some of us have seen both sides and know this well.
A good shout-out to the long, hard, and dedicated work of SoS John Kerry and his staff as well!