If I was a Hillary Clinton supporter, I'd be angry.

[Aerows]

I'd be pissed.

There has been ample opportunity to attack from both sides, but she does nothing because she hasn't triangulated it enough.

Politics are at one end glacial in movement, but on the other hand burn like a match in gasoline.

You have to decide if you are the match or the deep, deep cold that will roll over you with history.

[JaneyVee]

1. Maybe some more context?

[Aerows]

2. This is a pure example, right here n/t

[JaneyVee]

4. Welp, this got weird quick.

[sheshe2]

6. Yup.

My eyes are crossing here trying to understand the depth of there meaning.

[quickesst]

106. Here you go

This ought to clear it up.

https://m.

[Aerows]

7. If you mean that you have no rebuttal

and are confused about your lack of a rejoinder, well, uh-huh.

[sheshe2]

9. Rebuttal?

To what?

[1StrongBlackMan]

104. To this ...

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=JN.9hbTGNI%2b7zauPeEYxMD55Q&w=184&h=105&c=7&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2

[sheshe2]

124. Lol...

Love your sig line, 1Strong.

[JaneyVee]

11. I have no idea what this cryptic op means.

Perhaps it's some kind of subtext to an emotion you're feeling?

[Aerows]

13. Oh wow

subtext, cryptic and emotion all in one post.

[JaneyVee]

15. Ok. This is pointless without further context.

[Aerows]

31. Would you like

a protractor and a compass to help find your way to stomping out discontent?

I'm right here. I support Bernie Sanders. You need none of those things to find me.

[JaneyVee]

36. THIS IS GETTING WEIRDER AND WEIRDER.

Ok. Lets start over. What exactly should Hillary supporters be pissed about? We'll start slow.

[okasha]

114. Tipsy? Tripped out?

[sabrina 1]

105. I would be angry too. I would be angry because if I were a Hillary supporter she is giving

me nothing to get excited about. Eg, when asked 'what do you think of (fill in the blank) her standard response is often this: 'I will be unveiling my policies on this most important issue in a few weeks'.

Now why does someone opinion need to be 'unveiled' formally in a scripted release or memo? And 'in a few weeks'? Why doesn't a candidate asking for this job KNOW what they think on important issues well enough to be able to do what Bernie does, ANSWER the questions NOW? Surely if you have convictions you don't need to wait to formally 'unveil them' later?

This is why I am so happy to have a candidate I do not have to defend with anything other than his record when anyone attempts to distort it. It's all there, in his votes, never having to 'evolve' after years of being wrong, on important issues.

And some former Hillary supporters ARE going with Bernie because they care way more about issues than politics and they know he is the real deal.

[sheshe2]

3. Hmmm

???????

[JaneyVee]

5. +1.

[Aerows]

8. Half of this thread is hidden to me

Because I have them on ignore.

That means I'm pissing off all of the right people.

[still_one]

12. No, that means you really don't want a dialog unless everyone thinks as you do

[Aerows]

16. God I love

pissing off all the right people.

[JaneyVee]

22. The only person that seems pissed off is you.

Judging by your op. Everyone else in this thread is more 'confused' than 'pissed off', except you.

[AlbertCat]

120. The only person that seems pissed off is you.

I'm pissed off.

But I'm a Bernie supporter who's pissed off that this bozo thinks he's representing us.


And I have no idea what he's going on about.

[still_one]

23. I have no one on ignore, no matter how much I disagree with them

Incidently, I don't get "pissed". It is just a forum, and I do not take things personally. In fact I refuse to serve on the jury here, because based on some jury comments they seem to inject their personal bias in their decision, and I personally don't want to be part of that game

[Beacool]

50. Me neither.

I always felt it to be cowardly to place someone on ignore or run to the moderators to alert on a post. I abhor censorship. One would think that a liberal site would have more respect for freedom of speech.

[SusanaMontana41]

80. Nor me.

See! A Bernie backer and a Clinton supporter AGREE.

Shocking! Take the picture!

[Beacool]

107. I don't see Bernie supporters as enemies.

We just prefer different candidates. On the other hand, the perpetual bashing of Hillary on this site is disheartening.

[SusanaMontana41]

117. That's DU. Join the discussion, join the scrum. n/t

[still_one]

93. we are on the same page

[JaneyVee]

14. I have zero people on ignore, what does that mean?

[Aerows]

18. You put up with a lot of bullshit posts?

I don't know what you mean by that, either.

[JaneyVee]

30. is this some sort of performance art?

[Aerows]

34. If it helps Bernie Sanders

get elected as President, then I'll juggle chainsaws, stand on my head (which actually I can do easily) and cross a bed of coals.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

86. That would be a lot of love or action in vain.

[JaneyVee]

92. I don't know if it would help Bernie, but...

I know I would find that stunt enjoyable. Sounds entertaining!

[AlbertCat]

121. If it helps Bernie Sanders

Uh....


This is not.

[sheshe2]

19. Guess they have me on ignore, Janey.

They think they have pissed the right people off. Me, I am just laughing.

[JaneyVee]

39. This is so bizarre.

[sheshe2]

45. I know, Janey.

Yet they can stand on their head easily.

[sheshe2]

17. That must be me.

HA! No, you are not pissing me off. Lol...I have no idea what you are talking about. No one here does....that is Janey and me.

Love that you feel you are winning an argument with someone you can not read and no one here understands. That is just silly.

[BooScout]

95. I don't know about pissing people off........

But you sure are confusing the heck out of me. What exactly are you trying to say?

[KittyWampus]

118. Aerows, I hope you don't have me on Ignore. I love you, but I have no idea

what you are referring to.

And I can't stand Hillary so it's not as if I'm her supporter.

No one is pissed off.

Just trying to get what set off your OP.

[still_one]

10. If I was a Bernie Sanders supporter I would concern myself with Bernie and his positions

[Aerows]

20. Pissing off

the right people .

[still_one]

26. I am not pissed, and you have no idea where I stand. Enjoy you illusion

[JaneyVee]

27. Stop trying to make DU suck.

Your obsession with "pissing people off" is bizarre. We're all on each others team. Perhaps try channeling your anger in a more positive way.

[Aerows]

38. I have made that point more

than you might know. I don't want DU to suck. I just do not want Hillary Clinton as our nominee, and I am absolutely allowed that opinion until a nominee is determined.

[JaneyVee]

43. No one is stopping you.

These DU persecution party's are getting old.

[BainsBane]

99. You are allowed your opinion and ONE vote

your own. Every other American will vote exactly as they please, and that is their right. It is unfortunate that some seem to find that fact upsetting and feel that they are entitled to decide how others vote.

[TM99]

81. Results of you Jury Service.

On Wed Jul 15, 2015, 05:49 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Pissing off
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=446243

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Pissing off the right people is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jul 15, 2015, 06:08 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Someone needs alerting privileges revoked
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I have read much worse, from both "sides".
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: For pity's sake people. This is not disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, or over-the-top. Stop alerting on people just because you are for a different candidate!
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Just an FYI.

[Buns_of_Fire]

116. OT: Are there any other options for "Reason for Alert"?

One after another, all they ever say is "This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate." Over and over and over and over. I LIVE for the day when one finally says "Poster is a known poopiehead and their mother dresses them funny." or "Poster owes me $5." or "This post is off-topic."

Oops.

[frylock]

100. Which positions, specifically?

[still_one]

102. The point I was making is for those who find it advantageous to snipe at Democratic

candidates not to their liking every chance they get, to instead propagate the advantages of the candidate of their choice.

[JI7]

21. you are upset she hasn't attacked Sanders ?

[Aerows]

25. I'm upset that the eggplant I have growing in the garden

is taking to long because we've had some weird weather.

I have no idea what you might be getting bent out of shape over.

[NanceGreggs]

24. Is this post supposed to be ...

... incomprehensible?

Because if it is, it's doing a FANTASTIC job!

[Number23]

28. So have you decided? Are you the match or the deep, deeeeeeeep cold????

[sheshe2]

35. Snort!

[NanceGreggs]

42. I entered this thread ...

... thinking I was Miss Scarlett, in the library, with a candlestick.

Now I am totally confused ...

[Number23]

51. Between this foolishness and 1SBM in the AA forum talking about the only French he knows is from

Lady Marmalade, I am laughing so hard I have a runny nose and enough phlem for a week.

The last thing I need is the deeeeeep cold of history rolling over me too. That would only make me more mucous-y.

[NanceGreggs]

55. "The deeeeeep cold of history rolling over me ..."

That's Steinbeck, isn't it? Or is Hemingway? Or maybe it's Ludlum?

[BainsBane]

62. Adele

[NanceGreggs]

68. Somehow I knew ...

... this thread would have some kind of payoff, if I was just patient enough.

That was it.

Great song, great video - thanks for the share!

[sufrommich]

110. Snoopy.

[BainsBane]

69. Voulez vous couchez avec moi

ce sois?

[Number23]

74. *wheeze* I was CRYING when I read that. There have been so many weird posts around here lately

And I just saw a thread where it looked like about 20 people were leaping like hyennas all over a single poster.

Far be it for ANYONE participating in that pile on -- easily one of the worse and most ridiculous things I've ever seen here -- to carry on about people having a couple of laughs at the incoherent tangle of words that constitute an OP in this thread. Right?

[BainsBane]

75. Which thread?

You know you made me look up Lady Marmelade, and then Tina came on next singing Proud Mary.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

87. I recommended this thread for its pure comedic value.

eom

[okasha]

115. Winter is coming.

[Gothmog]

112. You are not the only one

[sheshe2]

49. They are upset about eggplant.

K~

[NanceGreggs]

76. Who wouldn't be

Not to mention the fact that the aspens are turning ...

[BainsBane]

78. Everyone knows eggplant is the Third Way vegetable

It's corrupting influence is everywhere.

[Bobbie Jo]

83. mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them

[DisgustipatedinCA]

29. Yes, your op was alerted.

It should be 7-0 to keep, but at this time of night, I'm guessing 4-3.

Someone has too much idle time on their hands.

[JaneyVee]

32. I absolutely didn't alert on this op...

I would vote to keep it, I actually want to know the context.

[sheshe2]

65. Nor did I...

Still laughing here.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

41. I'm glad my guess was wrong. 7-0 to keep

On Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:01 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

If I was a Hillary Clinton supporter, I'd be angry.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251446213

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Obvious flamebait. If there is any doubt... check out his post#8: "That means I'm pissing off all of the right people."

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:17 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I wish people would stop alerting everything
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Pissing off all the right people was trademarked by SidDithers a long time ago, and he's damn sure not a Hillary detractor.

Alerter: I just got done working 18 hours. I have exactly zero sympathy for someone spending all their time dredging discussion boards in order to find a reason to feel offended.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm not sure what the purpose of the post is, since I don't follow the gd/politics forum at the moment, but Aerows has been a reasonable poster for a long time. If subsequent posts are questionable, alert on those: the cited post is reasonable and civil.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: 'his'? anyway, the OP passes community standards with flying colors imo (not to mention the SOP), and it's in response to a thread which is actual flamebait (as measured in flames per second...)

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[JaneyVee]

48. Thank you Juror #7 for adding some context to this cryptic op.

Op should learn to do so.

[sheshe2]

52. So now we have context

Yet no link.

Late gotta go.

[JaneyVee]

53. Yeah, that made it boring, I was hoping for something interesting or...

Worth a discussion. I dislike these cryptic retribution threads that make no sense .

[sheshe2]

57. I know, Janey.

My eyes are still crossed, guess I need some sleep.

[JoePhilly]

108. This thread is too funny to hide.

The OP sounds stoned.

[msongs]

33. at any given moment there are thousands of aa meetings going on lol nt

[Aerows]

44. If you need to go to one

I suggest it. I'm whacked out over not smoking. I'd likely kick jump into a fire for a cigarette, except, I've quit, fucking quit, and I'll leap off of a cliff before I smoke another fucking cigarette.

[bravenak]

40. I woke up to this summons

On Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:01 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

If I was a Hillary Clinton supporter, I'd be angry.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251446213

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Obvious flamebait. If there is any doubt... check out his post#8: "That means I'm pissing off all of the right people."

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:17 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I wish people would stop alerting everything
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Pissing off all the right people was trademarked by SidDithers a long time ago, and he's damn sure not a Hillary detractor.

Alerter: I just got done working 18 hours. I have exactly zero sympathy for someone spending all their time dredging discussion boards in order to find a reason to feel offended.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm not sure what the purpose of the post is, since I don't follow the gd/politics forum at the moment, but Aerows has been a reasonable poster for a long time. If subsequent posts are questionable, alert on those: the cited post is reasonable and civil.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: 'his'? anyway, the OP passes community standards with flying colors imo (not to mention the SOP), and it's in response to a thread which is actual flamebait (as measured in flames per second...)

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[BainsBane]

60. What thread is it in response to?

It's so challenging to keep up with the latest and greatest.

[bravenak]

64. I wish I knew.

I took a nap and this popped up.

[BainsBane]

67. I bet you thought

You were still dreaming.

[bravenak]

79. I knew she was needing a cigarette as soon as I saw it.

[Betty Karlson]

46. So if I understand what you are saying,

there are two types of campaign, the one that comes with years of consistent messaging and bases itself off historic / demographic developments, and the ones that comes with sudden upsweeps in public opinion. The ones that are armed with broad public - but often tacid - agreement, and the ones that are lifted by loud and out waves of public support.

And your idea is that Mrs. Clinton hasn't been able to decide what kind of campaign she wants, trying to have a bit of both, but ending up with neither?

And your concern for the Clinton supporters is that they know that Mrs. Clinton hasn't been able to make that choice / act on it, and that they are now worried that their preferred candidate doesn't see the problem they see?

Is that what you mean?

Your observation about the campaign types is interesting enough. But maybe some context / practical examples would help to illustrate how all that connects to Mrs. Clinton. You are not very clear on that point.

[Aerows]

54. I think my issue

is that I am doing everything in my power to keep from smoking a cigarette. I've been 4 months, but I got my hair done and the beautician was smoking and it smelled like heaven.

I won't smoke again. I just can't, because I feel so much better, but my will is seriously being tested.

And if the post was weird and disjointed, well, hell. I apologize.

[Betty Karlson]

56. weird and disjointed? I won't say that

Original and a bit too succinct. I think if you would elaborate your ideas, they'd be as clear to us as your resolve to quit smoking.

And best of luck with those efforts!

[nenagh]

59. Good for you, Aerows...no cigarettes for 4 months..

[beam me up scottie]

63. Ah, trying to quit. I get it.

And don't apologize, your op isn't mean spirited, the people who pissed all over it are.

Keep it up, the benefits are worth the effort.

[JaneyVee]

66. No one "pissed all over it".

It's called 'trying to have a conversation'.

[beam me up scottie]

71. Mocking is not 'trying to have a conversation'.

But you knew that.

[JaneyVee]

72. Mocking what?? I ASKED FOR CONTEXT.

Context which still has not been provided.

[beam me up scottie]

73. DID I SAY I WAS TALKING ABOUT YOU?

Jeesh.

[JaneyVee]

70. Channeling your anger differently may help as well.

[Le Taz Hot]

89. People are allowed to smoke in places of employment

where you live? That sucks! She should have been more courteous. I smoked for 35 years and quit 11 years ago (with the patch) so I know EXACTLY what you're going through. I wasn't fit to live with for at least 6 months. When I used to get those overwhelming urges one of the things I would do is brisk exercise -- got me breathing deep and that little exercise rush.

Good luck, don't give in to the cigarettes and who cares how many people you have on ignore. I have over 100. Too many one-trick ponies on this board. Life is short and I don't suffer fools, well, at all, so getting them off my screen makes my time on DU life MUCH more enjoyable.

Oh, and,

And don't smoke!

[Aerows]

126. I didn't smoke.

That's the key point here, at least, it ended up being the key point here.

Thanks to everyone who reminded me I didn't need to smoke, don't want to smoke and WILL NOT smoke. I had a really bad moment, though.

[NanceGreggs]

47. I can't believe someone alerted!

Okay, yes, I can - but this is the MOST fun I've had here in eons!!!

I can't wait for the next installment!

[Kalidurga]

58. Spoken like a true poet

I love it slowness contrasting with speed, cold contrasting with heat. Urgency contrasted with languid apathy.

[HooptieWagon]

61. There are 11 types of people...

...those who understand binary and those who don't.

[MannyGoldstein]

127. 10

No?

[HooptieWagon]

128. Yep, ur right.

[riversedge]

77. You seem to have enough anger for all.

I will save mine.:

[Sancho]

82. Should be in a different group: Twilight Zone? Arctic Weather? Pyromaniacs? Anger Management?

At any rate, here's my response:

If I was a Bernie Sanders opposer, I'd be happy.
I'd be thrilled.
There has been little opportunity to praise from neither side, but he does lots because he has triangulated it often.
Politics are at one end light speed in movement, but on the other hand extinguished like a match dowsed in water.
You have to decide if you are the match or if the light of deep, deep space will flash past you in history.

[DanTex]

84. I think this one belongs in GD-Postmodern.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

85. SHE HAS BEEN (((((((((((ATTACKING THE REPUBLICANS))))))))

MY CAP LOCKS ARE BROKEN

[JaneyVee]

90. Good point.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

91. I fixed my cap locks too...

[Renew Deal]

88. Are you due beer and travel money?

[BooScout]

94. Da-yamm!

Is there a button for most bizzarro thread of the day?

[Nitram]

96. If I was a Clinton supporter...

...I'd be watching her bide her time with mature and nuanced experience to guide her. But it's nice to hear that a Bernista cares enough about Clinton supporters to get angry for them!

[hack89]

97. I love performance art.

[DawgHouse]

98. That last line is pretty good.

Sounds like something Rust Cohle would say on True Detective.

[daleanime]

101. K&R.....

and for some of the responses.

[William769]

103. What's there to be pissed about?

She seems to be pissing off the right people to me!

[sheshe2]

125. Indeed.

[The Second Stone]

109. A match in gasoline needs oxygen to burn. Try it.

Just kidding. That would probably be dangerous. But I have been reliably informed that it is only the vapors of gasoline that burn, which is why it is safe to use as a an everyday car fuel.

As to the point of pining for a Sanders/Clinton flame war, I don't see the point. The candidates are not engaging in that, and their official surrogates are not. Why not keep our powder dry until the other side settles on one or two of their candidates and then attack them?

If you want to attack Clinton (or Sanders), this probably isn't the site for you.

[NCTraveler]

111. Lolz. Amazing insight. nt.

[msanthrope]

113. Malaise does these types of threads so much better.

At least there's a television channel to turn on right fuggin now.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

119. ...

[bravenak]

123. I love that song!!!nt

[London Lover Man]

122. so I'm digging deep, and found this interesting essay

http://www.academia.edu/693800/From_Spouses_to_Candidates_Hillary_Rodham_Clinton_Elizabeth_Dole_and_the_Gendered_Office_of_U.S._President