I used to ALWAYS say we need the idiots to get power, so it can get worse, so it can get better

[randys1]

But that is easy for a white, heterosexual, non religious person to say.

For me there is very little the vicious, treasonous, murderous teaparty can do to me in the short run.

Since I am not a Woman, they cant appoint SC justices to overturn Roe and sentence me to a back alley death.

Since I am not a POC, I have no problem voting or getting an apartment or job.

Etc.

No, letting it get worse so it can get better, never works.

[jeff47]

1. "Hold the line" doesn't work.

You're just compromising bits and pieces away to the insane who will never be satisfied. If you'd like an example, consider just how effective our party's "Abortion is icky" strategy has worked. Little bits and pieces chipped away to the point where they're now going after birth control.

You need someone to fight. Sometimes, you will lose. Sometimes, you will win. But if no one is fighting to make it better, it will only get worse.

[JaneyVee]

2. And sometimes progress is measured one inch at a time.

Its better to take one step forward than two steps back.

[jeff47]

6. That only applies if someone is actually taking steps

Again, "keep the status quo" only has you go backwards.

[JaneyVee]

7. Are you saying we aren't making progress?

[jeff47]

10. On topics where our goal is to maintain the status quo, no. We are losing ground.

On topics where someone is actually out there fighting and dragging the dead weight that screams "too soon!", we are making progress.

[Jamastiene]

3. That might not be all wrong.

Other countries have revolutions long before it gets as bad as it is in America. America seems to be avoiding any kind of revolution since that first one. It's not like other countries in that way. To be honest, I am not sure what it would take for America to finally wake up.

I think the lyrics to "When Ya Get Drafted" by Dead Kennedys probably answers the why of that.

[ion_theory]

4. I feel like Bush kinda proved that for us..

The problem is though that the idiot that gets voted in still needs to run a country (or continue your fine acting career). So what is a man/woman to do? Well idiots believe whoever they think sounds the best and $$ talks. So naturally they just fuck over anyone for private gain like there new buddies do which inevitably will reach you somehow. It's all connected IMO

[HassleCat]

5. Yeah, I know

When I was younger and more easily excited, I used to buy that theory, but I pretty much gave up on it when the nation fell in love with Reagan and reelected him with a landslide victory. I mean, if we will support a president who tries to shred the Constitution by setting up a shadow government, we will fall for anything.

[GeorgeGist]

8. I honestly believe that Reagan made stupidity respectable.

[Journeyman]

9. Somehow, I can't get beyond the belief that what happens to others affects me, too . . .

and there'd be no difference no matter what I was.

We're on this small planet together and how we interact is the key to our happiness.