Hillary in Iowa: "We will dominate Babylonia"

[Renew Deal]

[Autumn]

1. What?

[HooptieWagon]

2. What? Is she declaring war?

This sounds like a dog whistle to The Family dominion it's group. Maybe Hillary wants a 21st Century Crusades?

[snagglepuss]

23. WTF. Crusades is the first thing that came to my mind

and then who the hell is the target audience. This is really shocking.

[Renew Deal]

3. "Alexander the Great was undisciplined. We will not make the same mistakes."

How can anyone support this?

[Autumn]

5. You joking with the cube rats.. right?

[whatchamacallit]

4. This is a joke, right? n/t

[bravenak]

6. What the fuck is Babylonia?

Serious question, I really don't know.

[HooptieWagon]

9. Persia. Iran.

Sounds like she wants the Crusades, unless this is a tasteless joke.

[bravenak]

11. Give me a break. This has to be some bible shit.

[Renew Deal]

15. Not the bible

but close

[bravenak]

18. Gawd.

[Renew Deal]

21. Bible period

Really, ancient times

[bravenak]

22. Ever since I read those 'Left Behind' novels, religious leaders scare me when they start involving

bible shit.

[beam me up scottie]

42. I have been scared since I learned the meaning of "Dominionism".

Everyone should be, they're not kidding around.

[bravenak]

43. I know, me too.

Ted Cruz is one of the creepiest ones.

[beam me up scottie]

45. He makes my womb shrivel.

That's some powerful birth control.

[bravenak]

50. Sad. The only way he can control a womb is to make it shrivel up and die.

[freshwest]

46. It's also used to represent Wall Street, bankers, usury and the west's finance sector. No shit.

Heard for many years Babylon represented the American empire and the oppression of natives and many countries. Reference has run around for some years and also refers to debt and slavery.

Some say the USA is either the land of Babylon in the Book of Revelations, or its modern form, and when its financial system collapses, it is the Fall of Babylon. All that wealth, disappearing and all who counted on it in shock. Of course it was an historical event of the Babylonian empire including Iraq.

The analogy made sense to me for a long time as I've seen the USA as part of multinational thieves or pirates at time. And the 1st world as grew rich at the expense of the 3rd world.

However, we have come to learn every country, west and east or however one wants to delineate it, are thieves. From their citizens, the conquered and the Earth itself. Empires aren't sustainable, but in their heyday, to the chosen few in them, they seem great.

When they fall it is for those in power and many below them, an apocalypse. But that term is another word for change. Or TEOTWAWKI. Which is not the end, just of what we know.

[bravenak]

47. That is very interesting.

I can get with it if it refers to Wall St for sure. Thanks!

[freshwest]

49. Part of the edict against pride, the love of wealth and power. Enough rope, they hang themselves.

And take multitudes that loved the system with them into the dirt and sent into foreign slavery for centuries.

[BainsBane]

55. The Babylon = the man in Bob Marley's music

Now I have to go see where I can find this speech online to see what she actually said.

[freshwest]

58. Most definitely. One of Marley's most inspirational, truth tellling songs:

Babylon System

By Bob Marley

We refuse to be
What you wanted us to be;
We are what we are:
That's the way (way) it's going to be. You don't know!
You can't educate I
For no equal opportunity:
(Talkin' 'bout my freedom) Talkin' 'bout my freedom,
People freedom (freedom) and liberty!
Yeah, we've been trodding on the winepress much too long:
Rebel, rebel!
Yes, we've been trodding on the winepress much too long:
Rebel, rebel!

Babylon system is the vampire, yea! (vampire)
Suckin' the children day by day, yeah!
Me say: de Babylon system is the vampire, falling empire,
Suckin' the blood of the sufferers, yea-ea-ea-ea-e-ah!
Building church and university, wo-o-ooh, yeah! -
Deceiving the people continually, yea-ea!
Me say them graduatin' thieves and murderers;
Look out now: they suckin' the blood of the sufferers (sufferers).
Yea-ea-ea! (sufferers)

Tell the children the truth;
Tell the children the truth;
Tell the children the truth right now!
Come on and tell the children the truth;
Tell the children the truth;
Tell the children the truth;
Tell the children the truth;
Come on and tell the children the truth.

'Cause - 'cause we've been trodding on ya winepress much too long:
Rebel, rebel!
And we've been taken for granted much too long:
Rebel, rebel now!

(Trodding on the winepress) Trodding on the winepress (rebel):
got to rebel, y'all (rebel)!
We've been trodding on the winepress much too long - ye-e-ah! (rebel)
Yea-e-ah! (rebel) Yeah! Yeah!

From the very day we left the shores (trodding on the winepress)
Of our Father's land (rebel),
We've been trampled on (rebel),
Oh now! (we've been oppressed, yeah!) Lord, Lord, go to ...

Hillary would surely know this meaning. As a Methodist, social justice is in their blood. Hope you find the transcript. Can't get the video yet...

LIked that Bernie stood up and applauded her several times as she spoke. But then, they are old friends and she helped fund his Senate race. I'm sure they know each other well, much better than net warriors.

And Republicans, who always make up armchair analyses on her actions and defame the character of the woman. The lower, the better, to tantalize LCD listeners.

Just as they did with Obama. Same bunch, similar memes. I suspect they don't believe it, but et more fantastical with the wild accusations to sucker people in. Who doesn't look at a car wreck, don't dogs run in a pack if something cues their interest?

There is a lot of projection that comes from them.

[scarletwoman]

59. Uh, just so you know, the OP was a joke - totally made up.

Nothing to do with what HRC actually said in her speech.

[John Poet]

65. I thought it was Iraq...

Seems like Saddam was trying to "rebuild" Babylon, before the Iraq war...

[Snotcicles]

7. Close your eyes and listen. It's as if there is a time delay in her receiver. nt

[Autumn]

8. If this is just kidding around that's just wrong

[HooptieWagon]

10. Is this serious?

[JaneyVee]

24. No.

[Renew Deal]

12. "I stand with Arabia in the conquest against the Persia"

[whatchamacallit]

13. Isaiah 40-55?

Is this like Dennis Miller humor?

[DJ13]

14. I thought this pic was a joke

[Renew Deal]

16. I know you're joking

But you might get a hide for that.

[HooptieWagon]

19. I think it's hysterical.

And pretty accurate if Hillary has completely lost it.

eta: I saved the pic just in case. It'll be great on FB.

[snagglepuss]

25. He's clearly joking but is your OP a joke?

[Renew Deal]

29. Yes

Of course. Only McCain can ramble on about Babylonia and the Soviet Union.

[snagglepuss]

41. You're an evil man and

whatever it is your drinking I'll have some.

[riversedge]

27. why do you demean a Democrat with that pic. Shameful

[Autumn]

32. OMG

That can never be unseen

[whatchamacallit]

35. Lol

and

[RandySF]

39. Wow with Democrats like the person who posted this

We'we are doomed in 2016

[DJ13]

40. LOL

Some have no sense of humor.

[HooptieWagon]

17. Holy shit! This is 2015, not 1015.

Does she think she's a Knight of Templar? She's gone over the edge into batshit crazy Michelle Bachman land.

[bravenak]

20. .

[sufrommich]

26. Wow. nt

[historylovr]

61. Please don't drag the Templars onto this crazy train.

[HooptieWagon]

28. Who's been watching C-Span?

This shit for real? It's so ludicrous it has to be a joke. If she's really spouting this Dominionist bullshit, she just lost the nomination.

[Renew Deal]

31. It's a joke

Of course.

[Purveyor]

34. Damn it. I was hoping it was 'so'... What fun that would have been. eom

[artislife]

30. It was prophetsied.....

[JaneyVee]

33. Are you people even paying attention?

[bravenak]

36. I think this has to be a joke. Right? Nobody says babylonia. I had to look it up.

[Renew Deal]

37. What do you mean "you people?"

[artislife]

57. Perfect! Laughing so hard. nt

[Zorra]

38. she meaning babylon, mon, it's Bernie thing, iree, but she not know it, you know?

[irisblue]

44. IBTL

[BainsBane]

48. You mean the speech Sanders gave a standing ovation to?

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[bravenak]

51. This is not real.

[BainsBane]

54. I seriously doubt it is

I haven't heard the speech, and I certainly wouldn't trust what people say here about it.

[BainsBane]

56. I think the OP just admitted

to making the whole thing up. Says it's "a joke."

[JI7]

60. i don't get the joke

[BainsBane]

62. Oh, just the typical H. Clinton as the demon spawn

Nothing funny about it.

[JI7]

63. isn't the OP a Clinton supporter

or am i confused with someone else ?

i was wondering if it was a reference to something.

[Renew Deal]

67. It's nothing like that at all

Some person in another thread posted that Hillary is a villain. I think that's outrageous. Since she's a villain I want to see what kind of ridiculous stuff people will believe just because it's her. Those that really dislike her were ready to jump on board.

My post is completely unbelievable. Democratic candidates don't rant and rave about war and get the names of countries wrong by a few hundred years. That's a republican trick.

[BainsBane]

69. Okay. nt

[karynnj]

70. At this point, I don't know what I am more annoyed by - stupid anti- HRC posts or parodies of them

Most at least are obvious in terms of what they are mocking. Here, I clicked in because I thought it was a bizarre smear and intended to demand a link. Read your responses, I don't think this is helping HRC - either gain primary supporters or to gain the respect of people who need to support her in the general election.

I also don't get the many hard edged, nasty sarcastic parodies that mock any non positive HRC threads. HRC is far the most likely nominee of the party. I don't get why, with that frontrunner status, most posts are not friendly outreaches to the rest of us. Ultimately, you want people not now for HRC to join her and NOT go around complaining they are holding their noses. Seriously, that tone is counterproductive.

[bravenak]

66. Not very funny.

[tularetom]

52. You're making that up, nobody is that fucking stupid

Well nobody who isn't named bush.

[scarletwoman]

53. I love this thread. It's totally hilarious.

[Luminous Animal]

64. Babylonia Hillary. #1 and #2 on google. You are doing your candidate no favors.

[sufrommich]

68. This thread is a casebook study of gullability mixed with wishful thinking.