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Does Bernie have executive experience? (Original Post) Renew Deal Jul 2015 OP
Yes, he does. bluedigger Jul 2015 #1
lol, that was easy. Renew Deal Jul 2015 #2
Even for me! bluedigger Jul 2015 #3
I don't get it whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #4
Do you consider his time as Mayor executive experience? Renew Deal Jul 2015 #5
Sure, as a microcosm n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #6
Yes, mayor is an executive experience. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #7
That's the question in the other thread Renew Deal Jul 2015 #9
No, SoS is not an executive position...reports to POTUS boss. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #11
Everyone has a boss Renew Deal Jul 2015 #12
It's a cabinet position in the (cough) EXECUTIVE (cough) branch of government. MADem Jul 2015 #18
POTUS is the executive, he's the final decision-maker. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #20
And SOS is the "boss" of every ambassador representing the USA in every country in the world. MADem Jul 2015 #22
More than Obama had before he became Prez, nt Zorra Jul 2015 #8
Yes, he has much more experience overall. Renew Deal Jul 2015 #10
Obama was a legislator in IL, he was never a governor. His "executive" experience was MADem Jul 2015 #21
Well, he was never on the Board of Walmart, if that's what you mean? sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #13
No, that's not what I mean Renew Deal Jul 2015 #15
Yes. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #14
Getting a bit nervous now aren't you. He electrified that Iowa crowd. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #16
What Bernie got done as mayor. (And it was transformative.) Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #19
Yes, as Mayor of Burlington, VT, 4, 2 year terms elleng Jul 2015 #17
GW Bush had executive experience. mmonk Jul 2015 #23
Yes, he was Mayor of Burlington, VT for 8 years Recursion Jul 2015 #24

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
4. I don't get it
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:34 PM
Jul 2015

How can anyone be experienced before having said experience? As in all non-second term presidential candidates.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
5. Do you consider his time as Mayor executive experience?
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:35 PM
Jul 2015

Because that's really the time in question. I don't think it's a controversial question.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
9. That's the question in the other thread
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:38 PM
Jul 2015

I say yes. SoS is a major role and she was the head of that Dept.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. No, SoS is not an executive position...reports to POTUS boss.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:46 PM
Jul 2015

The closest she comes is her campaigns...she's top of the decision-making process then I assume.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. It's a cabinet position in the (cough) EXECUTIVE (cough) branch of government.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:58 PM
Jul 2015

She also did an eight year internship in the West Wing as FLOTUS (and her office was IN the WW). No, that's not the same as doing the job, but it is helpful preparation.

That said, Senator Sanders, as the mayor of the small city of Burlington VT, was the chief executive of that community, so one can accurately say he has "executive" experience. Anyone who runs a business, is "the boss" of a large enterprise, or even is commanding officer of a military installation or vessel has "executive" experience.

There aren't many jobs that can nearly--never mind completely--prepare one for the POTUS gig. SOS isn't a bad one. Neither is VP, these days (used to not be the case). Defense is a pretty complicated portfolio as well.

President Obama's "executive" experience was in community organizing. It wasn't very good prep for the POTUS job, but he had a lot of good staffers to help him out. People here on DU hate Rahm Emmanuel, but he was probably one of the most effective gatekeepers of the century. Axlerod was quite effective in his capacity as well.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. And SOS is the "boss" of every ambassador representing the USA in every country in the world.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:14 PM
Jul 2015

As well as every consular officer at every consulate in the world. SOS also has a massive HQ staff, and is First Chair in the cabinet.

If you want to nitpick and complain that having authority over every employee in every American embassy and consulate in the world isn't executive experience, you go on ahead and make that claim.

I have to say, frankly, I find such a view not just blazingly wrong, but churlish.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
10. Yes, he has much more experience overall.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:40 PM
Jul 2015

Though Obama's experience was very good. Many years in the state house and a few years in the senate. More elected experience than Hillary in 2008.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. Obama was a legislator in IL, he was never a governor. His "executive" experience was
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:07 PM
Jul 2015

community organizing. His senate experience was brief but informative.

Doesn't really matter, though--some get it, some don't. Staff helps. Being disciplined helps. Having that "vision thing" helps.

JFK brought his Navy experience to the Oval Office. LBJ brought his talent bossing around underlings in the House and the Senate (that was executive experience tucked inside legislative experience!) as well as his experience yelling at his Vice Presidential staff. Jimmy Carter ran a farm, and he also ran a division on a submarine (that's executive experience, writ very small) and he was a governor, which was good preparation all in all. Bill Clinton was a governor. So was Porgie--and his gubernatorial background didn't help him one bit, the incompetent buffoon--he let Cheney run the show for way too long until his dad cried and forced him to dump Rummy and put Gates in Defense.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
15. No, that's not what I mean
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:52 PM
Jul 2015

I don't know why people read into things. The first person responded correctly.

elleng

(131,028 posts)
17. Yes, as Mayor of Burlington, VT, 4, 2 year terms
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:56 PM
Jul 2015

not as extensive as O'Malley's 2 4-year terms as mayor of Baltimore and 2, 4-year terms as MD governor.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
24. Yes, he was Mayor of Burlington, VT for 8 years
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jul 2015

We've got a wealth of executive experience among the candidates, in fact. O'Malley was mayor of Baltimore for 8 years, and Clinton was Secretary of State for 4 years.

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