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bigtree

(86,004 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:40 AM Jul 2015

Just watched the Iowa dinner speeches: If we could just combine these candidates...

First, I want to say, how sincerely impressed I was by all of our Democrats who appeared on stage and gave their visions for America and their appeal for the presidency. It's an amazing time to be a Democrat and I can see by these speakers last night that we are on the verge of a great transformation in our politics, as well as a great change in the way our government responds to the challenges we face.

I want to focus on three of the candidates which I think represent most of us here at DU and represent, to me, the possibilities for enacting those changes we need and deserve...




Bernie Sanders was extremely gracious in extending his thanks and appreciation for his fellow candidates at the outset of his remarks, and I think that was a grand representation of how we all should conduct our politics in this election and beyond. As he forcefully outlined issue after progressive issue which I think the vast majority of us here agree, we could see urgency and determination in the Senator which we can reasonably expect would not diminish one bit in the presidency, if he should achieve office. The issues and concerns he outlined were Democratic ones which most of our party has aspired to advance for decades. These weren't 'socialist' issues he raised, but American issues which we can all identify with and aspire to achieve. In his call for a political revolution, Sen. Sanders challenged Democratic voters to join with him in demanding that our legislators adhere to the values and principles he outlined, and bade us to reject those who don't adhere with our votes and with our activism and our advocacy. His was an uncompromising appeal which was as refreshing in our political debate as it was a rarity in our compromising political system.





Hillary Clinton gave one of the most personal and thoughtful speeches I've ever heard from the former First lady, Senator, and Secretary of State. As she spoke of her perspective as a grandmother, and reflected on her desire and determination to make our nation more hospitable and opportune for, not only her own family, but for every family, I was struck by how much her appeal resonated with my own aspirations and aims of influencing our political debate and system to effect the changes we need to help give every person in America the opportunity to succeed. Hers was an inclusive address which put our priorities into clear focus, emphasizing the need for an economy which works to lift up Americans, and highlighted the way our economy has been hijacked by those who are determined that it benefit a privileged few. As she reasoned, advantaging women, advantages families; advantaging the least of us, advantages all of us and strengthens our economy and our nation.





Martin O'Malley gave one of the most forceful speeches I've ever seen from him. What struck me, as he went through his litany of progressive achievements from his terms as City Councilman, Mayor, and Governor in my state of Maryland, was how much he had grown in the role he's assumed of moral leadership in our Democratic party. He absolutely embraced and embodied almost everything that I've imagined our party to be; projecting a firm, but compassionate insistence that our party and national government take responsibility for the challenges which face us. That insistence was bolstered by the experience in office he brought to the room, to our political debate, in actually accomplishing a myriad of the progressive goals and aspirations in my state which he wants to achieve for our nation. There was also a bold sense of moral authority he projected in his insistence that Wall St. and our financial monoliths either act with accountability and responsibility, or cease and desist. One line which resonated:

"If a bank is too big to fail; too big to jail; too big to manage; then it's TOO DAMN BIG, and it needs to be broken up before it breaks us up!

Amen. Whatever the course our Democratic campaign takes, I hope we can experience much more of that firm and compassionate leadership from Martin O'Malley. He proving himself to be a powerful and important voice for our progressive cause and our party needs his contributions in that regard to our debate.

In fact, our party needs each and every one of these Democrats who appeared at this forum to keep speaking out as forcefully and as often as they're able. Together, our Democratic coalition represents an insistence that our government get about the business of progressive change, and do so without reservation or hesitation. Our Democratic field running for the presidency this time around represents the best of what we should aspire to. Last night was a promising beginning to that journey.

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Just watched the Iowa dinner speeches: If we could just combine these candidates... (Original Post) bigtree Jul 2015 OP
K & R Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #1
Thanks for the report. I haven't had the opportunity to watch yet. mmonk Jul 2015 #2
Great analysis. Nailed it. Yes, we have great candidates. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #3
Thank you Bagsgroove Jul 2015 #4
Agree with the original post and this thank you Frances Jul 2015 #5
I watched it yesterday evening. sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #6
Thank you! I love seeing your posts here in this too-often contentious forum. scarletwoman Jul 2015 #7
bigtree, you're a gem. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #8
Recommend.... KoKo Jul 2015 #9
We are certainly blessed with three excellent candidates. eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #10
I'll gladly support any of these three in the general election. MineralMan Jul 2015 #11
I have to say Aerows Jul 2015 #12
Hmmmm .... think I'm ready for a Bernie Martini . . . DrBulldog Jul 2015 #13
I couldn't agree more. Andy823 Jul 2015 #14
Thank you, bigtree! Koinos Jul 2015 #15
kick bigtree Jul 2015 #16
kick bigtree Jul 2015 #17
kick bigtree Jul 2015 #18
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
3. Great analysis. Nailed it. Yes, we have great candidates.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jul 2015

A stark contrast from the GOP clown car.

Bagsgroove

(231 posts)
4. Thank you
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jul 2015

Primary contests are good for presenting choices in policy and personality within the party, but they can damage the chances of the eventual nominee when the fight becomes so heated and personal that supporters of the losing candidates won't turn out in the general election to vote for the winner of the nomination. Some of the arguments here on DU (particularly among Sanders and Clinton supporters) are already approaching that level of acrimony.

I watched the Iowa speeches too, and came away with the same impressions as you bigtree. I'm a supporter of Bernie Sanders, but there's no question in my mind that any of the Democrats on that stage last night (including Mr. Chafee and even Mr. Webb) would be a far better president than any of the Republicans running. In the real world, I think it's likely I'll end up voting for Hillary Clinton in the general election. Not my first choice, but a no-brainer in a contest against a Trump or Walker or Bush.

The "I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils" argument sounds noble, but in fact it means that you are willing to sit on your hands and let the greater of two evils prevail.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
5. Agree with the original post and this thank you
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jul 2015

What a difference between the Dems and the Repubs!

Also, thanks for the kind words about O'Malley. I lived in Maryland for years and respect the man.

My main concern with Sanders is his position on gun control, but I will happily vote for him, O'Malley, or Clinton in a general election.

I would also vote for Webb or Chafee over a Repub.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
6. I watched it yesterday evening.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:44 PM
Jul 2015

From my perspective I would count out Chaffee (dove)
and Webb (military).
If I were asked to grade:
O'Malley A
Bernie B
HRC C

I have heard Bernie in better and more passionate speeches,
but have to say I was very impressed by O'Malley. He definitely
deserves far more attention than he gets.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
7. Thank you! I love seeing your posts here in this too-often contentious forum.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jul 2015

Measured, reasonable, dispassionate analysis.

Thank you for your thoughtful summary. I have no TV or smartphone, and my computer is on dial-up, so I had/have no way to view last night's event. I very much appreciate the opportunity to see it through your eyes.

Thanks again,
sw

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
11. I'll gladly support any of these three in the general election.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:09 PM
Jul 2015

That's the simple truth. The impassioned attacks I'm seeing have little to do with that at all. When I compare these three Democrats with the clown car full of idiots the GOP is putting forward for consideration, the decision is very simple.

Whoever emerges as the Democratic nominee deserves all of our support and GOTV efforts. No question about it.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
12. I have to say
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:15 PM
Jul 2015

bigtree, you rock. elleng is also an O'Malley supporter and she is also among the best of DUers

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
14. I couldn't agree more.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:56 PM
Jul 2015

I was very impressed with Bernie, thought O'Malley did the best speech I too have seen so far, and liked how Hillary addressed the issues. Which ever one ones the nomination will have my vote, that much I can guarantee.

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