The minimum wage. This...?

[whereisjustice]

Sanders Calls for Minimum Wage Increase
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-calls-for-minimum-wage-increase

Sanders calls minimum wage a 'starvation wage'
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/240871-sanders-calls-minimum-wage-a-starvation-wage

Sanders calls for $15 minimum wage, income eqaliity in Sioux City speech
http://siouxcityjournal.com/news/sanders-calls-for-minimum-wage-income-eqaliity-in-sioux-city/article_37c6da2d-2dc7-544b-b9f8-af7b8c332e46.html




Or more of this?

Hillary Clinton Tells Minimum Wage Fast Food Workers: 'I Want To Be Your Champion'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/07/hilllary-clinton-minimum-wage_n_7530914.html

Hillary Clinton promised Sunday to fight for higher pay for low-wage workers.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/07/news/economy/hillary-clinton-minimum-wage/index.html

Hillary Clinton's answer to the wage gap: Profit-sharing?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0713/Hillary-Clinton-s-answer-to-the-wage-gap-Profit-sharing-video

Hillary Clinton Declines to Endorse $15 Minimum Wage
http://mic.com/articles/122461/hillary-clinton-declines-to-endorse-15-minimum-wage




Some people evolve their views. Others revolve their views. Bernie has had the correct view all along.

[99Forever]

1. Yep. Weasel words always leave room to "evolve"...

.. or perhaps just say you are "going to."

[marym625]

3. +1000

[daleanime]

7. +1

[JaneyVee]

2. What if instead...

We tie minimum wage to cost of living, but it must equal $15/hr spending power. For example, here in NYC that would mean $25/hr minimum wage, while states like Mississippi it may be $10/hr, because cost of living is lower. (These are just examples, an actual metric will have to be created).

[marym625]

5. Why should the same work not be paid equally?

You go there, then you open a door that will screw people left and right. Then you pay a person with kids more than someone with none

Fast food restaurants, in areas with a lower cost of living, actually make more than in places with a higher cost. So the employees, doing exactly the same work should make less from a company making more? Where's the logic in that?

[JaneyVee]

6. But it would still be the same equivalent as far as spending power.

And it should be tied to the metric of $15/hr. Just tossing it out there. There are a lot more sectors that make minimum wage than just fast food workers in corporate America.

[marym625]

8. That still makes the corporation make more money off people

If I flip burgers in Benton, Kentucky, I should make the same as the person flipping burgers for the same company in Chicago.

Or if you want to use a teller at a bank as an example, fine. It works across the board

You would be opening a can of worms that would end up rewarding corporations and screwing employees.

I understand what you mean. It's just an unnecessary and, imo, bad idea

[JaneyVee]

9. Its ok if corporations make money...

As long as their employees aren't making poverty wages and it gives employees equal spending power. Just a thought. I'm thinking of scenarios of mom and pop shops along main street in rural America, not just corporations. $15/hr to a mom/pop shop in rural America might be like paying $40/hr in NYC, yet NYC probably gets 100x the customers and foot traffic.

[marym625]

11. It's not OK for a corporation to make money because they're cheating people

And that is exactly what that is.

You can't have a different federal minimum wage based on cost of living. That's what State minimum wages are for.

And no, corporations should not be allowed to pay less because the cost of living is less. Their job description and expectations doesn't change. Neither should their wages.

[Adrahil]

18. What?

So an engineer working in Iowa should make the same as one in Palo Alto!?

Have you taken any economics?

[Hoyt]

13. Hamburgers are more in NYC, and volume likely greater. I doubt many places

make more in Mississippi than NYC.

Point is, minimum wage should provide a decent living wage.

[marym625]

15. What difference does it make when you're talking wages?

Company A has businesses in Missouri and New York. They employee people to do the same job. Those employees should be paid the same. If you are going to use volume to adjust pay, then you should have to use rent, utilities, etc as well.

There's no way you can adjust Federal minimum wage to work differently in different areas. I guarantee that the company will end up the winner. Besides opening it up for an unbelievable number of excuses to pay someone less.

Federal minimum wage should be the same across the country. States and localities should fight for higher wages where needed. And it should never be based on changing factors that can be manipulated.

[Adrahil]

19. Did you know that the Feds...

Pay federal workers "locality adjustments" to account for cost of living?

What's. Good salary in Omaha is not what's good in NYC.

[marym625]

22. The Fed doesn't down pay

It's never below $15. That is what was proposed

And the cost of living increase the fed pays is not across the board

[Hoyt]

20. Ypu are the one saying the owner on Mississippi would make more money. That's not the case because

They likely charge less than NYC, not to mention possible volume differences. Sanders isn't even supporting going straight to $15/hour because he knows there is no chance it would pass with the current Congress.

Pie in the Sky stuff is great, but you have to enact it.

[marym625]

21. Yes, he is

And many places are already passing legislation that increases minimum wage to that or greater. It's not pie in the sky. It's much less than it should be

They charge the same and many places do equal volume in areas that have a lower cost of living. With lower rent, lower state minimum wages, utility costs, taxes, etc; the profits are, at times, greater

[Hoyt]

23. Yeah, LA is increasing minimum wage to $15 in 2020, that's over 5 years from now. Sanders can't get

$10.10 through Congress. I'm not happy about that, but it's reality.

[marym625]

24. Seattle already increased it to $15

So has DC. Los Angeles has for hotel workers. Many others have increased some, like Chicago is now $10 and goes up over $13 in a couple years.

Many places go to $15 or over sooner than 2020.

Absolutely we need better people in Congress. But it's not impossible it happens before 2020.

http://www.raisetheminimumwage.com/pages/minimum-wage-laws-and-proposals-for-major-u.s.-cities

[Hoyt]

25. Well, just about anyone could increase it to over $100/hour . . . . .by 3320. Seattle is at $11 now

[marym625]

26. You're right about Seattle. Doesn't go to $15 until 2018

I remembered incorrectly.

What's with the smart ass comment? .Cities all over the country are passing laws that raise the minimum wage to $15 and over within the next few years, some by next year. It is not an impossibility or ridiculous to believe that the federal minimum wage will be increased to $15 pee hour in the next few years

[Hoyt]

27. Sanders can't get $10.10 enacted now. Why should I think he can do it any time soon.

Yes, if he lives long enough, and stays in Congress long enough, and keeps pushing for $15, he might can say he got it.

That's my point. I'm for $15, but it's not happening soon, except in high cost areas where $15 is roughly equivalent to $11 elsewhere.

[marym625]

28. I don't have a defeatist attitude

And I know we'll soon have a democratic Congress. Besides a movement that is growing daily.

[Scuba]

31. They're in denial about the potential power of Bernie's Bully Pulpit.

[marym625]

32. evidently

[Scootaloo]

29. Does Clinton support a Federal minimum wage tied to cost of living?

if so, please provide a link.

[marym625]

4. K&R!

Puts me in mind of. ..

[artislife]

10. Brilliant!

That is it in a nutshell.

[marym625]

12. I love that scene!

[whereisjustice]

17. +1 :)

[Autumn]

14. It's easy to be a champion for the people. All one has to do is look at this

If you can't endorse a $15 dollar wage minimum then you sure as fuck are not fighting for minimum wage workers. You are not a champion for the people, all you are doing is making noise.

Alabama
none

Alaska
$8.75
$9.75 eff. 1-1-16
Indexed annual increases begin Jan. 1, 2017. (2014 ballot measure)
American Samoa
varies 1

Arizona
$8.05

Rate increased annually based on cost of living. (Ballot measure 2006)
Arkansas
$7.50
$8.00 eff. 1-1-16
$8.50 eff. 1-1-17

California
$9.00
$10.00 eff. 1-1-16

Colorado
$8.23

Rate increased or decreased annually based on cost of living (Constitutional amendment 2006)
Connecticut
$9.15 2
$9.60 eff. 1-1-16
$10.10 eff. 1-1-17

Delaware
$8.25

D.C.
$10.50 3
$10.50 eff. 7-1-15
$11.50 eff. 7-1-16
Indexed increases begin July 1, 2017 (2014 legislation)
Florida
$8.05

Annual increase based cost of living. (Constitutional amendment 2004)
Georgia
$5.15
(see notes below)

Guam
$8.25

Hawaii
$7.75
$8.50 eff. 1/1/16
$9.25 eff. 1/1/17
$10.10 eff. 1/1/18

Idaho
$7.25

Illinois
$8.25

Indiana
$7.25

Iowa
$7.25

Kansas
$7.25

Kentucky
$7.25

Louisiana
none

Maine
$7.50 4

Maryland
$8.25
$8.25 eff. 7-1-15
$8.75 eff. 7-1-16
$9.25 eff. 7-1-17
$10.10 eff. 7-1-18

Massachusetts
$9.00 5
$10.00 eff. 1-1-16
$11.00 eff. 1-1-17

Michigan
$8.15
$8.50 eff. 1-1-16
$8.90 eff. 1-1-17
$9.25 eff. 1-1-18
Annual increases take effect Jan. 1, 2019, linked to the CPI. Increases not to exceed 3.5%. (2014 Legislation)
Minnesota
$8.00/$6.50 6
Large Employers:
$9.00 eff. 8-1-15
$9.50 eff. 8-1-16
Small Employers:
$7.25 eff. 8-1-15
$7.75 eff. 8-1-16
Indexed annual increases begin Jan. 1, 2018. (2014 legislation)
Mississippi
none

Missouri
$7.65 7

Minimum wage increased or decreased by cost of living starting Jan. 1, 2008. (2006 ballot measure)
Montana
$8.05/$4.00 8

Increases done annually based on the CPI and effective Jan. 1 of the following year. (2006 ballot measure)
Nebraska
$8.00
$9.00 eff. 1-1-16

Nevada
$8.25/$7.25 9

Increases subject to the federal minimum wage and consumer price index. Increases take effect July 1. (Constitutional amendment 2004/2006).
New Hampshire
repealed by HB 133 (2011)

New Jersey
$8.38

Indexed annual increases based on the CPI, effective Jan. 1, 2014. (Constitutional Amendment 2013)
New Mexico
$7.50

New York
$8.75
$9.00 eff. 12-31-15

North Carolina
$7.25

North Dakota
$7.25

Ohio
$8.10/$7.25 10

Indexed annual increases based on the CPI. (Constitutional amendment 2006)
Oklahoma
$7.25/$2.00 11

Oregon
$9.25

Indexed annual increases based on the CPI, rounded to the nearest five cents. (ballot measure 2002)
Pennsylvania
$7.25

Puerto Rico
$7.25/$5.08 12

Rhode Island
$9.00
$9.60 eff. 1-1-16

South Carolina
none

South Dakota
$8.50

Annual indexed increases begin Jan. 1, 2016. (2014 ballot measure.)
Tennessee
none

Texas
$7.25

Utah
$7.25

Vermont
$9.15
$9.60 eff. 1-1-16
$10.00 eff. 1-1-17
$10.50 eff. 1-1-18
Beginning Jan. 1, 2019, minimum wage increased annually by 5% or the CPI, whichever is smaller; it cannot decrease. Note: Vermont started indexing in 2007. (2014 legislation)
Virgin Islands
$7.25/$4.30 13

Virginia
$7.25

Washington
$9.47

Annual indexed increases began Jan. 1, 2001. (ballot measure 1998)
West Virginia
$8.00
$8.75 eff. 12-31-15

Wisconsin
$7.25

Wyoming
$5.15

Sources: U.S. Dept. of Labor, http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm; and state web sites.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/state-minimum-wage-chart.aspx

[marym625]

16. Yep

And every single one of those keep people in poverty

[Lancero]

30. But but but... a living wage isn't doable!!! Or something.

You just have to ignore all the successes that FF15 has had in securing higher wages for workers.

I find the tax credit idea a bit laughable really... Sounds a lot like this trickle down theory that Republicans rave about. Eh, well, I guess you can call it different after slapping a different colored coat of paint on it. Still, that relies on people not scratching off the paint to see what's under it. Ah well, could work I guess. Or corperations could find a way to weasel out of it, like they do for a lot of other tax regulations.