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En Garde

(94 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 03:04 AM Jul 2015

Bernie Sanders draws his biggest crowd yet — in Arizona of all places

Bernie Sanders drew more than 11,000 people to a rally Saturday night in downtown Phoenix -- the largest crowd to date for a presidential candidate whose audiences have been swelling in recent months.

The Vermont senator, who has emerged as the leading alternative to Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination, got a rock-star-like reception from supporters who streamed into a cavernous lower-level room of the city's convention center...

"Somebody told me people are giving up on the political process," Sanders said as he greeted the crowd Saturday night. "Not what I see here tonight."...While few Democratic elites give the 73-year-old Sanders much chance of winning the nomination, his campaign is being taken increasing seriously by the Clinton camp... Brett Barry, 50, a real-estate broker from Scottsdale, said Sanders drew such a large audience because "we're hungry here."

"Some of our liberal friends have given up because they don't think he has a realistic chance," Barry said. "I get tired of hearing that."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/07/19/bernie-sanders-draws-his-biggest-crowd-yet-in-arizona-of-all-places/?tid=hpModule_ba0d4c2a-86a2-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394&hpid=z8
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Bernie Sanders draws his biggest crowd yet — in Arizona of all places (Original Post) En Garde Jul 2015 OP
Fantastic news. Looks like Bernie wasn't fazed at all by snagglepuss Jul 2015 #1
12,600 final number. Wow! artislife Jul 2015 #2
Even better. Where'd you hear that? En Garde Jul 2015 #5
It's in the link. artislife Jul 2015 #6
Yeah, just read it in the Comments section. En Garde Jul 2015 #7
I always love the comment section...unless it is on yahoo! artislife Jul 2015 #8
Yeah, I hear you. En Garde Jul 2015 #10
Holy Cow! TM99 Jul 2015 #14
Lucky you! nt artislife Jul 2015 #25
Fantastic, politicians usually can only dream of such crowds HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #22
I completely agree with you. HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #23
"constrained by a record of earlier promises..." daleanime Jul 2015 #29
Sure. But HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #30
And isn't time we changed that? daleanime Jul 2015 #32
Hold that thought...and compare it to what we THOUGHT we were doing electing Obama HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #33
Every thing is doomed to fail, so what sense is there in trying? daleanime Jul 2015 #35
Not to be rude but you don't understand what you read. HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #36
Then please show me where I go a stray..... daleanime Jul 2015 #37
"The largest crowd to date for a presidential candidate" AGAIN! arcane1 Jul 2015 #3
Yep... this deep red state crowd beats the 10,000 in Madison. No other candidate has come close. En Garde Jul 2015 #4
Because he is a rock star! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #9
Fantastic! cui bono Jul 2015 #11
Telling the truth works. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #12
Thanks for the info davidpdx Jul 2015 #13
"He delivered largely the same stump speech he has been for months..." DCBob Jul 2015 #15
"People outside his comfort zone"? Multi-billionaire sugar daddies?Wall Street bankers? Divernan Jul 2015 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #19
Hey bob. What do you consider Bernie's comfort zone to be? Autumn Jul 2015 #20
But POC ARE in his comfort zone. Check the link. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #28
"Bernie Effin Sanders 2016"!!! Great news! RiverLover Jul 2015 #17
See... PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #21
Great article! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #24
Fantastic! Looking forward to hearing how his Texas rally goes today! peacebird Jul 2015 #26
Dallas this afternoon kenn3d Jul 2015 #38
Fantastic! Thank you! peacebird Jul 2015 #39
youtube video from Dallas rally kenn3d Jul 2015 #40
Plenty of diversity in that crowd, by all reports. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #31
...but that was right next to Vermont. Wait until he gets to Oregon. L0oniX Jul 2015 #34
 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
14. Holy Cow!
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:35 AM
Jul 2015

I was there and was pegging it between 10,000 and 12,000 but to see that it actually topped out close to 13,000 is amazing.

It was a hell of a speech, a hell of rally, and I am glad I was there.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
18. Fantastic, politicians usually can only dream of such crowds
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:11 AM
Jul 2015

He's still less than 2 months into his campaign, and it's growing like a wildfire!


Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #18)

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
23. I completely agree with you.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:29 AM
Jul 2015

Sanders may still face the inevitability of money meme, but the notion that the Dems would be led by a prohibitive favorite is history.

Listening to the speeches of the Iowa Dems HoF dinner, it's also pretty clear that the obvious support in the Base for Sanders' message has moved the content of the campaign well to the left.

The most inevitable part of the general election politics is that whoever gets the nomination is going to be constrained by a record of earlier promises supporting progressive positions. The ge isn't going to be only about war in the middle east, containing China.







daleanime

(17,796 posts)
29. "constrained by a record of earlier promises..."
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:35 PM
Jul 2015

wouldn't it be better to think that the nominee should stand for some thing during the general election?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
30. Sure. But
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:52 PM
Jul 2015

The game for decades has been play to the base in primary then play to the center

I didn't make that history, I just shared time with it and I've been sharing history with it since Truman.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
32. And isn't time we changed that?
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:23 PM
Jul 2015

When our leaders speak, I want it to mean something. That it won't change in a couple of months.

But maybe that's just me.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
33. Hold that thought...and compare it to what we THOUGHT we were doing electing Obama
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jul 2015

Now, let it go and remember how that worked out.

Let's be honest.

YES. It is time that was changed, it has been for a long time.

We actually thought we were changing -that- very thing for a long time, decades in fact...

Not to say we must despair, hope springs eternal, even while expectation tempers and protects our psyches from abuse and disappointment of what's likely to turn out pretty much the sos.

That's happened to me almost every 4 years for decades.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
35. Every thing is doomed to fail, so what sense is there in trying?
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jul 2015

Not to be rude, but

Could we fail? Oh, hell yes, but what happens without our involvement?

Thanks for keeping my spirits up.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
11. Fantastic!
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 04:12 AM
Jul 2015

I doubt it will be long before the polls really shift. I mean if he's getting crowds so much bigger than Hillary, it's only a matter of time before the word gets out about him. I truly believe the poll numbers favoring Hillary are because of name recognition. Once Bernie is known around the country and people keep talking about him and wearing his t-shirts and putting up yard signs and bumper stickers it's going to change.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
15. "He delivered largely the same stump speech he has been for months..."
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:43 AM
Jul 2015

"lamenting the level of income inequality in the country and railing against the outsized political influence of the "billionaire class."

For sure that's a big issue but there are so many more that need to be addressed. I think this is why he isn't connecting with people outside his comfort zone.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
16. "People outside his comfort zone"? Multi-billionaire sugar daddies?Wall Street bankers?
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 07:05 AM
Jul 2015

One Percenters? Hedge fund owners? War mongers/profiteers? Guess what!?! They are not welcome in progressive Democrats' or Bernie's comfort zone.

Sanders has touched upon the KEY vital concernS (that's plural concerns, not just income inequality), of the non-one-percenters, and that is why his crowds keep growing. He is exactly where he needs to be in getting his message across, as witness the huge, ever-growing, record-breaking crowds, even in red state Arizona.

He has a vital, substantive message to deliver - what you dismissively call his "stump speech" - and there's no reason to change or dilute that. It works! It works better with each passing day!

But your concern is noted.

Response to DCBob (Reply #15)

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
20. Hey bob. What do you consider Bernie's comfort zone to be?
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jul 2015

He connected with over 12.000 people yesterday, in Arizona. Larry and Jamie were't there but I don't see a downside to that.

PatrickforO

(14,618 posts)
28. But POC ARE in his comfort zone. Check the link.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=455509

And please, don't fall for the Karl Rove 'divide and conquer' strategy. One of the guy's main STRENGTHS is minority issues and it's being systematically turned into a weakness on here. Maybe one or two trolls behind it, and if you go clear back to the rock it came from under and lift it up so you can see the maggots, it's a couple of wrinkly old white male hands grasping for more profit...

The Koch brothers.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
17. "Bernie Effin Sanders 2016"!!! Great news!
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 07:39 AM
Jul 2015

from the OP link~

Among those in the audience Saturday night was Amanda Appelbaum, a stay-at-home mom in Phoenix with a baby on the way who wore a T-shirt proclaiming "Bernie Effin Sanders 2016."

"In the last 10 years, I've felt I've had no reason to vote or focus on politics," Appelbaum, 29, said, saying Sanders was different. "I love that he doesn't take corporate donations, that it's all about being elected by the people."


I want one of those t-shirts!

kenn3d

(486 posts)
40. youtube video from Dallas rally
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:33 PM - Edit history (1)



Published on Jul 19, 2015
Bernie Sanders Dallas Rally on July 19, 2015. There were over 5,000 people at the rally which is being held on the same day as a rally in Houston that is expected to have another 7-8K in attendance, and just one day after a record-breaking 11K+ in Phoenix, AZ.


Lots more Dallas photos and video here:
http://ban.jo/News/US-Canada/20150719/Bernie-Sanders-Speaks-In-Dallas-TX-Dallas/

Response to PatrickforO (Reply #27)

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