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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAs Bernie Sanders rises, attacks from the right get ugly
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/bernie-sanders-rises-attacks-the-right-get-ugly...Sen. Pat Roberts was getting a little desperate. The Kansas Republican, struggling in the polls, decided the way to hold onto his seat was to become as brazenly right-wing as possible, telling one audience, We have to change course because our country is heading for national socialism.
It was a curious moment. Pat Roberts, after spending more than three decades on Capitol Hill, was either arguing that America is headed towards Nazism or was using the phrase national socialism without knowing what it means.
About a year later, the phrase has popped up once more. National Review, ostensibly one of the leading media outlets in U.S. conservatism, published this piece from Kevin Williiamson about Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) presidential campaign.
In the Bernieverse, theres a whole lot of nationalism mixed up in the socialism. He is, in fact, leading a national-socialist movement, which is a queasy and uncomfortable thing to write about a man who is the son of Jewish immigrants from Poland and whose family was murdered in the Holocaust. But there is no other way to characterize his views and his politics.
It was a curious moment. Pat Roberts, after spending more than three decades on Capitol Hill, was either arguing that America is headed towards Nazism or was using the phrase national socialism without knowing what it means.
About a year later, the phrase has popped up once more. National Review, ostensibly one of the leading media outlets in U.S. conservatism, published this piece from Kevin Williiamson about Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) presidential campaign.
In the Bernieverse, theres a whole lot of nationalism mixed up in the socialism. He is, in fact, leading a national-socialist movement, which is a queasy and uncomfortable thing to write about a man who is the son of Jewish immigrants from Poland and whose family was murdered in the Holocaust. But there is no other way to characterize his views and his politics.
These fucking morons, Senator Sanders is Jewish and the furthest thing from a fucking NAZI.
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As Bernie Sanders rises, attacks from the right get ugly (Original Post)
steve2470
Jul 2015
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Considering the source it is entirely possible they LITERALLY dont know what it means
randys1
Jul 2015
#3
It takes quite a bit of twisting/deception to describe him as "nationalist" too.
arcane1
Jul 2015
#5
marym625
(17,997 posts)1. K&R!
He can be the next communist/Nazi/Fascist/socialist President!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)2. haha, my friend! nt
randys1
(16,286 posts)3. Considering the source it is entirely possible they LITERALLY dont know what it means
these are very dumb and very mean people
marym625
(17,997 posts)6. Most definitely!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)7. it's still a meme in the right wing that Hitler was LEFT wing....
They all skip over the historical fact that 1- Hitler put the word "socialist" in the party name to attract socialists in the very beginning (i.e., 1920 or so) and 2) Hitler was best buddies with the oligarchs and industrialists during his reign and put all the socialists in concentration camps or killed them outright in 1933 and later years. Yea, in the very early years he had some socialist-sounding stuff in his literature, but that all got thrown away later on. Not to mention, virulent anti-semitism is pretty incompatible with socialism.
Some at Discussionist still believe that BS.
I was doing some research on the idea that a fascist is left wing. There is actually some portion of it that can be seen that way. But not Sanders or Obama!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)4. They ought to have some shame.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)5. It takes quite a bit of twisting/deception to describe him as "nationalist" too.
They know exactly what they are doing.