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MBplayer

(73 posts)
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:02 PM Aug 2015

Private prisons and the minority vote

I am concerned we are vulnerable here, considering the disproportionate number of minorities locked up.

If you were a campaign advisor for your nominee, and he/she took money from the prison lobby, how would you address these concerns in a debate, if asked? Both Primaries and the General.

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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
1. Bernie Sanders has called for private prisons to be abolished and receives no money from them
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:05 PM
Aug 2015

As far as I know.

I think that's probably best way to go on it.

But I also don't think it's a very salient issue for the campaign. Not too many people seem to care about it except for the ideological left.

In other words it won't matter in regards to votes because nobody is making a big deal about it.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
3. And treating drug crimes as medical issues and not criminal issues...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:12 PM
Aug 2015

... the way that alcohol is dealt with today would really help us get a lot of people out of the prison system that shouldn't be there, and take away the money that shouldn't be going to these institutions and would be better spent in other areas.

That is not only legalizing marijuana, but decriminalizing possession of other drugs too that perhaps shouldn't be legal, but shouldn't be helping us to fill our prisons with more prisoners and take more people off of our potential voting list, which I think is part of the reason that there's been a push for using drugs to be a crime, especially when those being prosecuted tend to be more people of color, etc. too. It is part of voter disenfranchisement efforts. They probably don't want the model of alcohol to be used as having those using alcohol not being criminals helps perhaps keep more of the Republican's voter base from being made criminals.

Portugal set the template of what could be accomplished if this were done...

http://mic.com/articles/110344/14-years-after-portugal-decriminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
4. The core issue is allowing profits to be made from incarcerating people.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:14 PM
Aug 2015

The profit motive creates a demand for convictions, and people of color are disproportionately targeted for arrest and conviction in order to provide profit for the prison owners.

Removing the profit motive is absolutely necessary, as is reform of the justice system to address systemic racism.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
5. And as I noted, it also serves as a mechanism with voter suppression...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:17 PM
Aug 2015

... if those groups of color and other people more likely put in prison tend to be those that might vote for Democrats in elections too.

MBplayer

(73 posts)
8. Agree with 4,5,7
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015

You can also buy publicly traded shares in two prison for profit companies. That, is screwed up.

We need to get this cancer out of the Democratic Party, somehow, someway. Financial incentive to get and keep minorities and lower-income citizens locked up is disgusting and inhumane.

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