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azmom

(5,208 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 12:58 PM Aug 2015

O’Malley Staffer to Clinton Campaign: Stop the Google Translate

So in an effort to appeal to Spanish-speaking Latino voters, the Clinton campaign not only tweeted one really bizarre, contextless tweet but it was accompanied by an English video. It was awkward, sloppy and spoke of lazy Hispandering.




http://www.latinorebels.com/2015/08/06/omalley-staffer-to-clinton-campaign-stop-the-google-translate/

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O’Malley Staffer to Clinton Campaign: Stop the Google Translate (Original Post) azmom Aug 2015 OP
Who is he to tell Clinton what to do and how to run the campaign? Evergreen Emerald Aug 2015 #1
ever use Google translate? bigtree Aug 2015 #2
So what phrasing would you use? We have had tons of grandparents, no grandmothers in that office. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #8
ugh bigtree Aug 2015 #9
Hemos tenido is not proper usage in spanish azmom Aug 2015 #10
Are you....serious? tritsofme Aug 2015 #4
Oh, the humanity!!!! Joe the Revelator Aug 2015 #5
It is not just about her. A mistake like this could cost the Democratic Party votes no matter who jwirr Aug 2015 #7
Why use Google Translate when you have the most diverse campaign staff in the history of ever? frylock Aug 2015 #13
Hispandering!! artislife Aug 2015 #3
"Cheap but good" oasis Aug 2015 #6
And never get a tattoo with Chinese characters. MineralMan Aug 2015 #11
It's not only the language. Hispandering to us azmom Aug 2015 #12

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
2. ever use Google translate?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 02:29 PM
Aug 2015

...it produces clipped and often inaccurate English translations.

translation of Hillary's tweet:

We have had many grandparents in @lacasablanca, but we have never had a grandmother.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. So what phrasing would you use? We have had tons of grandparents, no grandmothers in that office.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 03:03 PM
Aug 2015

How is that inaccurate? Would you have used 'gran Padre'? What is the part that offends you and how would you correct it?

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
9. ugh
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 03:36 PM
Aug 2015

...it's you again, personalizing this.

I never said it offended me. I pointed out that her campaign made an inaccurate translation. Why that made a negative impression on the writer at Latino Post needs to be left to them to defend. I assume they were referring to posting the botched phrase in Spanish which was disassociated from the English-speaking video they included. It did seem a bit 'awkward' a pairing, as they said.

As for the O'Malley staffer, she's making a good point. It's probably not a good idea to rely on Google translates for interpretation of phrases. As I specifically pointed out with not trace of 'offense,' it often produces clipped and inaccurate translations...maybe abuelo was fine. Maybe it was usage, or maybe it was just the use of google translates that was being criticized as a lazy effort.

I do think it's a good idea to pay attention to the criticism and try and understand why this writer objected to this.


here's something she posted an hour ago on facebook (presented without comment or offense) :

Hillary Clinton ·1 hr
How to say “Go Hillary!” in Spanish. Cómo decir “Go Hillary!” en español.


tritsofme

(17,379 posts)
4. Are you....serious?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 02:33 PM
Aug 2015

Tweeking a Clinton staffer for making a mistake on social media doesn't "sit well"? Pretty absurd.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
7. It is not just about her. A mistake like this could cost the Democratic Party votes no matter who
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 02:56 PM
Aug 2015

the candidate is. And not just on the presidential level.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
3. Hispandering!!
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 02:30 PM
Aug 2015

I have never heard that term...did you make it! It is brilliant either way and thank you for introducing it to my vocabulary.

Oh, that is misfortunate about the tweet and video. It kind of reminds me of a story, I heard at a Qigong event.

There was a woman who was invited to a Chinese event. She wasn't Chinese and didn't speak the language but thought it would be fun to make a badge with Chinese symbols to honor the event. She copied the symbols off the menu of her favorite restaurant, probably thinking they were the name. Knowing most Chinese restaurants, they have great name that invoke an image.

She was having a great time at the party when a Chinese man who could read her symbols, started laughing. He asked her what she thought she was saying. He said, no what you have on your badge is " Cheap but good."

Language has so much more than mere words, it invokes how a people think and relate to the world. That is why many languages spoken in different regions are differnt from each other.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. And never get a tattoo with Chinese characters.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 03:43 PM
Aug 2015

At some point, you will meet someone who understands them, and a tattoo that reads "Huge Asshole" is probably not a great idea. Tattoo artists have senses of humor, too. Especially don't get one if you're in a port city where Chinese is spoken. Then, you'll be certain of having something embarrassing permanently inscribed on your skin.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
12. It's not only the language. Hispandering to us
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 03:47 PM
Aug 2015

With a tweet about having a grandparent in the whitehouse is offensive. We care about the issues.

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