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MSNBC Poll: Do you think the Democratic National Committee should organize more than six debates? (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 OP
Thank you nt artislife Aug 2015 #1
86% yes. jwirr Aug 2015 #2
Still 86% yes Vincardog Aug 2015 #3
Still at 86% R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #4
Once Sanders gets a noticeable post-debate bounce, THEN there will have been enough debates. wyldwolf Aug 2015 #5
Oh relax, open discussion isn't going to hurt you or H-arrow. senz Aug 2015 #17
Oh, relax, open discussion isn't going to hurt you, either. wyldwolf Aug 2015 #23
Glad to hear you're for more than six debates, wyldwolf. senz Aug 2015 #25
I'm glad you think there should be less than 6. wyldwolf Aug 2015 #27
This is getting interesting... senz Aug 2015 #32
Yes it is. wyldwolf Aug 2015 #33
Nah, it's gettin' ugly. senz Aug 2015 #34
And you started the ugliness. wyldwolf Aug 2015 #35
Are you for or against real debate? The current exclusivity rule of the DNC sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #39
It's an online poll with people like you telling others to vote in it wyldwolf Aug 2015 #43
Six is more than plenty. tritsofme Aug 2015 #6
That is what the machine hopes for Vincardog Aug 2015 #9
Or the exact opposite could occur. Due to the obvious attempt to protect their sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #40
Uh-huh.... tritsofme Aug 2015 #42
Done! haikugal Aug 2015 #7
Why should we want to know more about the public servants we're about to hire? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #8
+ 1000 senz Aug 2015 #18
Online polls are useless workinclasszero Aug 2015 #10
I'm an actual person, and I'm demanding more Democratic debates 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #12
I'm actual person "begging" for more political debates.. frylock Aug 2015 #20
In that case, it appears that no one is voting FOR the DNC's 'rules'. 87% sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #41
Done! Thanks for the OP nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #11
YES @ 87% for this timestamp 66 dmhlt Aug 2015 #13
Not the party, necessarily John Poet Aug 2015 #14
I think people who want to be in more debates should make their own on principle and to heck msongs Aug 2015 #15
As long as we could get sufficient media coverage. senz Aug 2015 #22
Voted and Rec Kenjie Aug 2015 #16
87% (my vote did it) senz Aug 2015 #19
Or maybe not. senz Aug 2015 #24
I think if we (Democrats) want to win this election, senz Aug 2015 #21
87% ..........Yes 3,627 votes Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #26
Yay for FReeping polls! n/t bobclark86 Aug 2015 #28
Wrong website. We DU polls. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #31
Nope. Still FReeping. bobclark86 Aug 2015 #36
It's a reference to the nutjobs at Freerepublic.com. They Freep, we DU. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #38
. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #29
No. The BLM should organize a couple of debates. Native Americans are discussing holding their own Voice for Peace Aug 2015 #30
This is a good idea, except for the reality: LWolf Aug 2015 #45
well that would be exceedingly dumb of the DNC Voice for Peace Aug 2015 #46
Yet they've already done it. LWolf Aug 2015 #47
they are exceedingly dumb. Bernie ought to say so. Voice for Peace Aug 2015 #48
He has been. LWolf Aug 2015 #49
We need a DU poll RobertEarl Aug 2015 #37
Yes that should settle it! wyldwolf Aug 2015 #44
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
17. Oh relax, open discussion isn't going to hurt you or H-arrow.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 04:33 PM
Aug 2015

Seriously. No need to adopt the secrecy habits of a certain candidate. IMHO, there's something undemocratic and therefore unAmerican about it. We can do better.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
23. Oh, relax, open discussion isn't going to hurt you, either.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 04:43 PM
Aug 2015

Seriously. No need to adopt the conspiratorial habits of a certain candidate's supporters. IMHO, there's something undemocratic and therefore unAmerican about it. We can do better.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
25. Glad to hear you're for more than six debates, wyldwolf.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 04:49 PM
Aug 2015

But do bear in mind that strategizing, which is part and parcel of political campaigns, can also be termed "conspiracy." Same elements in both. Mainly a difference in tone.

Sorry to piss you off. I was trying to communicate, not "call names."

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
27. I'm glad you think there should be less than 6.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:00 PM
Aug 2015

But for some people to whine about just six when there has never been any set DNC policy on the number is silly - especially when they think the more debates there are, the more people will like Bernie. What? Six isn't enough to convince the American electorate they should vote for him? Seven is the magic number? 12? 18? 50???

Sorry to piss you off.

You're confusing 'pissed off' with amusement.

I was trying to communicate, not "call names."

H-arrow? secrecy habits of a certain candidate? undemocratic and therefore unAmerican? SUUUURE - you weren't trying to 'call names.'

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
32. This is getting interesting...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:20 PM
Aug 2015

First off, you don't sound amused to me; you sound offended.

Secondly, since I am trying to become less spontaneous and more controlled for the purpose of raising my sensitivity to others, your reaction concerns me.

Thirdly, your examples, taken from my comments, prove both our points. To wit:

* "H-arrow" could pass as "name calling" to very sensitive souls. Okay, I'll take that as a lesson and try not to do it in the future.

* "Secrecy habits" and "undemocratic" are SERIOUS concerns/criticisms for which I do not apologize. If you can't bear to have your candidate criticized for what some of us (voters) consider important negatives (secrecy, undemocratic tendencies), then you, wyldwolf, have let yourself become overly protective and will probably find any non-adoring discussion of your candidate a source of anger. afaic, that's your problem. And by the way, it doesn't help her either.


For my part, I will try to do better.

Have a good day.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
33. Yes it is.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:28 PM
Aug 2015
First off, you don't sound amused to me; you sound offended.

I'm not responsible for how your perceive my mood.

Secondly, since I am trying to become less spontaneous and more controlled for the purpose of raising my sensitivity to others, your reaction concerns me.

Calling the Democratic front-runner undemocratic and unamerican. Yeah, you have loads of sensitivity going on there.

"H-arrow" could pass as "name calling" to very sensitive souls. Okay, I'll take that as a lesson and try not to do it in the future. "Secrecy habits" and "undemocratic" are SERIOUS concerns/criticisms for which I do not apologize.

1. If you're intention was not to name-call, why use any other reference to Hillary Clinton than her name or former titles?
2. It's quite amusing you would accuse someone of name-calling after throwing those doozies out.
3. I don't care whether you apologize or not.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
34. Nah, it's gettin' ugly.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:38 PM
Aug 2015

IMHO, you might quite possibly be dealing with anger management issues which are, of course, perfectly understandable in this imperfect world that infuriates us all from time to time; however, I do not wish to ruin a perfectly good Saturday trying to deal with whatever it is that makes you react this way.

So take it easy, and I'll try to like you anyway. (I know, I know, you "don't care," etc. etc.)

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
35. And you started the ugliness.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:22 PM
Aug 2015

Seriously, why hit people and not think they'll hit you back?

you might quite possibly be dealing with anger management issues

You might quite possibly be dealing with delusions you're a psychiatrist.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
39. Are you for or against real debate? The current exclusivity rule of the DNC
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:32 AM
Aug 2015

is without a doubt, anti-democratic regardless of who you support.

The poll shows an overwhelming majority against the DNC's current position on debates. That has to include some Hillary supporters who I am sure feel confident that their candidate can handle some open discussion on the Issues.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
43. It's an online poll with people like you telling others to vote in it
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 07:39 AM
Aug 2015

Skewed and meaningless. The rest of your reply is as well

tritsofme

(17,379 posts)
6. Six is more than plenty.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 02:40 PM
Aug 2015

But I do agree there should be more before the early voting states. Hillary may very well have the nomination wrapped up by the time the last two debates come around.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
40. Or the exact opposite could occur. Due to the obvious attempt to protect their
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:34 AM
Aug 2015

preferred candidate even some of her supporters, who value democracy more than any politician, may decide to support the candidate who is not afraid of debate on the issues.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
8. Why should we want to know more about the public servants we're about to hire?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 02:45 PM
Aug 2015

The emphasis being on "servants". Not masters, bosses, leaders, or heroes. Servants.

Call it democracy.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
10. Online polls are useless
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 02:47 PM
Aug 2015

One person can vote hundreds of times if they want to.

In my daily life I have never heard an actual person begging for more political debates LOL

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
12. I'm an actual person, and I'm demanding more Democratic debates
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 03:11 PM
Aug 2015

or do I have to "beg" to count in your book?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
41. In that case, it appears that no one is voting FOR the DNC's 'rules'. 87%
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:37 AM
Aug 2015

want MORE debate. So why are Hillary supporters not voting over and over again in favor of the DNC's rules? If ANYONE can do that, then the poll should be the opposite of what it is.

I voted once, not sure if I could do it again, but wouldn't anyhow.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
14. Not the party, necessarily
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 03:58 PM
Aug 2015

but there should be no "exclusivity rule".

Networks, local stations, newspapers, etc should be allowed to host their own debates.

msongs

(67,413 posts)
15. I think people who want to be in more debates should make their own on principle and to heck
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 04:05 PM
Aug 2015

with the dnc's attempts to stifle free speech and association

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
21. I think if we (Democrats) want to win this election,
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 04:39 PM
Aug 2015

we should use a "play it by ear" strategy, scheduling debates for strategic times, such as the very near future, with an aim of holding at least six debates. I.e., we should be flexible and strategic in our approach, not rigid and dogmatic. (Hm, this would also be very good advice for a certain female candidate, and I don't mean Carly Fiorina.)

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
36. Nope. Still FReeping.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:29 PM
Aug 2015

That's the term for it: Flooding a poll to skew results in your favor. Check Wikipedia and Urban Dictionary on that one...

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
30. No. The BLM should organize a couple of debates. Native Americans are discussing holding their own
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:16 PM
Aug 2015

debate as well. Latinos can organize a few debates

There is no reason this should be left up to the DNC, nor the MSM
and who gives a fuck about their already-decided-debates that
don't even begin for months and months. Meanwhile,
MEANWHILE:
Bernie is doing three huge events 8th,9th,10th, this weekend.
Seattle, LA,


Let's have DU moderated debate!!
YEAH A DU MODERATED DEBATE!!!

Or DU + DAILYKOS + THOM HARTMANN +
SOME REASONABLE FARE, AND BALANCE,
LET'S GET BILL MAHER, JON STEWART,
ALL THE ONES.. THEY HAVE A TON OF MONEY,
THEY COULD STAGE AND MODERATE SOME
AMAZING DEBATES.

apologies for loud caps.. too much excitement, too little sleep.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
45. This is a good idea, except for the reality:
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:49 PM
Aug 2015

BLM and Native Americans and anyone else who wants to organize debates? If a candidate attends, then that candidate will be excluded from the DNC debates.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
47. Yet they've already done it.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:28 PM
Aug 2015

The DNC has limited the number of debates to six and threatened to exclude presidential candidates who debate outside that framework.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
37. We need a DU poll
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:03 AM
Aug 2015

It should be placed in GD.

And if locked we should all pm the locker.

This is a general party matter and it belongs in GD.

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