how do 3 people shut down an event ?

[JI7]

From what i hear it was 3 women from blm.

Sanders should demand they let him speak and get security to remove them if they don't leave.

[Agschmid]

1. Yup that would go over real well...

[Armstead]

3. I was about to write the xact same thing

[JI7]

6. why wouldn't it ? bill Clinton would have done it

[brooklynite]

97. I love people who throw out "we all know" comments with no evidence whatsoever...

..as it happens, I was at a Clinton event in 1991, which was disrupted by ACT UP. Clinton stopped the booing in the crowd, and engaged them directly, offering to talk to them personally about their issues after he was done.

[misterhighwasted]

115. Clinton is still a master at the art of compromise.

That is how one leads. A business, a classroom, a political position, or a family.

[Fawke Em]

221. You're talking about Bill.

Hillary can't even have these events.

[misterhighwasted]

265. Yes Bill was the subject of the post I replied to. Hillary doesn't need them.

Not the way bernie does.

Hillary isn't just a Senator. Her credentials make her campaign far different than bernies.
Just how it is.

[Bluenorthwest]

267. Here is Bill being very direct and confrontational with Bob Rafsky....

Not sure if this is the event you spoke of.

[Cosmic Kitten]

147. Ray McGovern

[bravenak]

2. Black women are so scary.

Thats why they have to overreact and behave like Armageddon has arrived whenever black folks get too loud.

[greatauntoftriplets]

4. ...

[bravenak]

10. I think they probably got the same trolling I got after the last time. All those tweets!!

I've seen folks get into fistfights over twitter. I'm still supposed to slap my cousin over facebook.
Lol! I think some thought that if they forcefully tried to harass and punish black lives matter protestors, this would not happen again. Lol! It made me wanna find a Bernie rally and start heckling.

[greatauntoftriplets]

80. I'd love to be present to see you do that.

[misterhighwasted]

129. The handlers poked a stick in an ant hill. And then yelled at them to go away.

That's what it was like.
What a smug way to pick n choose who belongs under the tent & who is not welcome.
i really don't understand why it was handled the way it was the first time. And this shut-it-down response is just sad.
There are a few ways this could have been handled. This was the worse possible way.

[bravenak]

172. Crazy how they always go full war mode.nt

[misterhighwasted]

182. It's pretty unbelievable.

It makes me sick to hear the rally of fans, only to see the Emperor really hasn't the clothes we were told he did.

Wtf does it take in this country.
I know there are reasonable people also.
But how loud must one chant & march & demand a place of value too.
The ugly disgusts me.
I'm sorry brave, for today.

Peace
mhw

[bravenak]

191. This is one of those issues that cannot be discussed without rancor.

Some people refuse to see the racism in themselves but enjoy pointing ut out in others.

[misterhighwasted]

209. Sure do

Nite brave

[NaturalHigh]

214. "Some people"...

Hmm...please do elaborate.

Are you willing to discuss this issue without rancor?

[misterhighwasted]

266. Some will listen to the other. Some don't want to discuss it at all.

Some turn their back & walk away.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

203. Geewhizzakers, brave, you mean folks don't like being called names...

like "white supremacist liberals"? Especially to describe supporters of a man whose father's family was wiped out in the Holocaust by fucking Nazis? Goodness gracious, why in the world would *anyone* object to that?!

[progree]

247. Jury results on #223

On Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:03 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

You are so full of shit.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=503988

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"You are so full of shit" is just rude and personally insulting. It's possible to disagree by saying You are wrong/mistaken/incorrect but calling someone "full of shit" is personal and hurtful.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:16 AM, and the Jury voted 6-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Personal insult - plus even more of the daily abuse by Sanders supporters. This needs to stop. The Republicans are the party of mean, not us.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

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I agree with Juror #4 and the other 4 jurors besides me that voted to hide. Even though I'm a Sanders supporter, I voted to hide the "You are so full of shit" #223 post. So we're not all unfair jerks that only vote to hide supporters of candidates we oppose.

I would just add that I see daily abuse by Hillary supporters as well, and that too needs to stop (but obviously won't, just like rude comments by Sanders supporters won't disappear anytime soon. But its important to hide the obvious over-the-line posts, as at least it cuts down on the numbers of them. Anyway, the primaries will be all over in less than a year )

[Fawke Em]

222. Why don't you find a Hillary event and heckle that.

See what happens to you.

You'd be treated like the average minority on the street.

[JI7]

8. seriously .It's only 3 people. the way people talk

You would think half the audience was disrupting.

I said above that bill Clinton would easily have told them they WILL let him speak .

[bravenak]

15. Maybe they need security? Like everyone else?

[Larkspur]

137. And Bernie gave these BLM bullies the microphone

But they were not interested in speaking. The chubby ladies were too busy using their bodies to bully Bernie and anyone near them.

[mcar]

183. Chubby ladies?

Seriously?

[SwampG8r]

244. They were full size

I thought one of them had it going on but that's a different thread.

[virtualobserver]

9. Bernie was just treating them with respect-

he is already sympathetic to the cause

[bravenak]

12. His supporters bring this shit on him. I been done told y'all that..

All that harrassing of black folks all over the internet by his supporters reflects back on him. Told you all. We been talking about Bernie's white supremacist supporters ever since netroots. Nobody really believed me.

[Krytan11c]

20. White supremacists supporting a Jewish man for president...

Seems legit

[bravenak]

36. Don't care what you think. Not my job.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

57. LOL... that flew right over your head. (n/t)

[stevenleser]

146. No, it didn't. She just didn't care to respond. Nt

[WorseBeforeBetter]

151. How chivalrous of you... swooping in to defend bravenak. (n/t)

[stevenleser]

155. Not defending her, she doesn't need it. I'm correcting you.

I'm sure you would want to know if you are wrong about something.

You're welcome.

[bravenak]

163. Thank you for correcting people with me. They really need us more than ever right about now.nt

[stevenleser]

166. They don't see how badly they are off here. See my #162 below and what it is

A response to. Unbelievable. Really.

[Fawke Em]

227. No. You both are Gish Galloping.

We ask. You say nothing or that we don't "understand." You tell us that we'll never get it.

That is TOTAL bullshit.

My son is half Palestinian. I totally get it. I don't want him to die because of his name.

So, yeah, I get it.

Why don't YOU return the favor?

[stevenleser]

269. No, and clearly you have no idea what a gish gallop is. We're saying one specific thing. nt

[WorseBeforeBetter]

207. And you're going to bring us 'round by calling us white supremacists? LOL

You might want to rethink that one, brave, even though you seem to think you have all the answers.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

175. Nope, it flew over.

Just like it flew over the heads of the Seattle #BLM protesters. Dumbasses.

[stevenleser]

179. Nope. Bravenak gives folks one or two chances to get it and then tunes you out

That post to her was trying to put way too fine a point on it and missing the bigger picture.

She doesn't usually bother to respond to stuff like that.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

195. LOL... "Bernie's white supremacist supporters."

Yeah, we get it Steve. And reject the divisive racist bullshit spewed here on DU by the anti-Sanders contingent.

[stevenleser]

197. No, you clearly don't get it. Nt

[WorseBeforeBetter]

204. What I get is that supporters of man whose father's family...

was mostly wiped out in the Holocaust are being called "white supremacists." I don't know who is driving this or who is funding it, but it's about as low as it gets. Why aren't you condemning it?

[Fawke Em]

233. I get it.

But, apparently, I don't count.

[840high]

239. Yes it did.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

240. She can't reply... she's on timeout.

But she might not have replied anyhow, because I hear she gives "white supremacist liberals" only one or two chances.

[840high]

251. How special of her.

[Mojorabbit]

59. +1000 nt

[WorseBeforeBetter]

77. LOL

[restorefreedom]

130. a jewish man who lost relatives murdered by a white supremacist.

yup. makes perfect sense

[ctsnowman]

218. lol Love it.

[Ken Burch]

25. Nothing anyone did online justified Bernie being prevented from speaking.

If those women had just asked the rally organizers for the moment of silence before the event began, they'd have got it. Why dud this confrontation even need to happen?

Bernie has already proved he cares about stopping institutional racism.

[Ken Burch]

68. I agree that some Bernie supporters need to dial the attitude back, and that he should say so.

Publicly...tonight...at the larger rally...

But I really don't think it's intentional racism...it's frustration(which, unfortunately sometimes can sound racist and should never sound that way) that the most anti-racist candidate in the race, arguably the most anti-racist candidate since Jesse Jackson-no attack on the president intended there, just the observation that he didn't say much on the issue until the last two years or so) is still being treated as though he can't be trusted to be reliably anti-racist as president. It's that he is still treated, for no real reason, as more suspicious on those issues than anyone else in the race.

blm gains nothing from the race being reduced to just HRC, Biden, O'Malley and Confederate Flag Guy.

[bravenak]

76. Hell, I know!

They don't quite understand why people think they are racist. They do not have that intuitive way about them. They think policy is king, but emotions win elections. They do not get it.
When you have ten thousand white folks harassing a thousand black folks, while a bunch of other white fokjs takk about how terrible those black folks act, it LOOKS racist and it is. They expect white behavior and will jump in and do anything in their power to get us black folks to behave the way they want us to. Such unruly negroes.

This shit is not because Bernie sucks. He is better than most of his fans on this. He might have to tell you guys that shit like thi happens to every candidate, but the reaponse from his fans is bordering onPUMA territory. Black people will not go belong to the group that calls them names and harasses them, even if they have the better candidate. That is the issue imo.

[Cha]

215. They can't handle the truth so they try to shut you up.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

219. No, her mouth got her in trouble.

I wasn't on the jury, but I'm guessing it was this:

It made his fans LOOK racist. Nobody black really wants to join a bunch of racists

You take your chances. Bravenak lost.

[Cha]

232. Yeah, you can't handle the truth from a #BlackLiveMatter supporter.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

237. Thank you, Jack Nicholson.

Have a nice vacation, Oh Brave One!

[Bobbie Jo]

253. Stay Klassy. nt

[WorseBeforeBetter]

254. Tell it to your "white supremacist liberals" buddies.

Now *that's* class. And yes, I get the Klan reference. So clever.

[Bobbie Jo]

255. What does that even mean?

Tell what to who?

WTF?

Take it down a notch or ten.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

257. Did you just arrive to this party? (n/t)

[Bobbie Jo]

258. It resembles something else to me

bur party on, or whatever it is you're doing here.

[virtualobserver]

46. I can't speak for the internet

All I know is Bernie's life story.....I don't see anything that would generate any interest from white supremacists. As a rule, they are not generally drawn to politicians who have supported gay rights for decades, or who have endorsed Jesse Jackson for President, or have been pro-choice throughout their career.

White supremacists harassing black people on the internet, I have no wish to minimize what you have seen.

BLM can choose to hold him responsible for that, but Bernie does not share their view .

[MADem]

108. To say nothing of all the astroturf keyboard black people

who are suddenly all over the internet, self-identifying as POC, cheering Sanders on, finger-wagging their ostensible peers about how they're wrong and being all "agitating" and should sit down/shut up...yet all those typing/scolding black people who are keyboard cheerleaders never bother to show up at those IRL rallies....what's up with that?

[bravenak]

119. Yeah. What's up with that?

It feels like courtroom where they bring in 'poc' to purger your testimony as a black person.

[Bobbie Jo]

118. Yep, you and others tried to tell them

repeatedly.

If I had a dime for every time I posted the phrase "keep it up" in the last several weeks, I'd have a nice chunk o'change.

Yep...

[bravenak]

121. I think they owe us money.nt

[malokvale77]

126. "Bernie's white supremacist supporters"

Disappointed to know that's how you feel about me as a Bernie Sanders supporter.

We live and learn.

[Fawke Em]

225. Now, those folks reflect back on you.

Y'all sound like a bunch of paid-off crybabies now.

[whatchamacallit]

11. I can only imagine what you'd be in here saying

if he had them forcibly removed. You play all angles all the time.

[bravenak]

13. I support black lives over all else. Period. Fuck a politician.

[whatchamacallit]

21. Cool, fuck everyone else

especially liberal allies.

[bravenak]

31. Are you Bernie? They did nothing to you.

And yes, we have MANY white supremacists liberals in our land. That's part of why some allies are NOT allies.
What they hell did y'all think was gonna happen after they way Bernie fans harassed and harassed and fucked with every black person they could find who had any issues with Bernie? That that woukd fix it? It would put them in their place? Nope. Expect more if it keeps up.

[whatchamacallit]

42. He's my candidate and I want him to have a fair shot at fixing this fucked up country

So yeah, I take offense when he is singled out by people who are attacking the wrong guy. As far as this fiction about all Bernie fans being the same and harassing black people en mass goes, it's utter bullshit.

[bravenak]

55. And you guys go nuclear against black folks. To protect him. That is why there are issues.

I predicted this, okay? Really. Benn telling you all for weeks to chill the fuck out on the anti black rants. Asked you all nicely. Yelled it at you. Wrote over a thousand posts. Nobody believes in shutting the fuck up about how much they cannot stand those evil blacks. Bernie represents you, they represent ME. You do know that Bernie fans have been harassing black lives matter protesters for weeks, right? They done went full racist many times, and here we see a bunch of anti blm posts. They can read this you know? I send it to themso they can see how fucked up white liberals talk about them. Blame that.

[whatchamacallit]

64. "You guys"

I don't know what quaifies for harassment in your mind, but if defending your candidate against bullshit is "harassment", tough shit. You think it's your business to tell everyone what is acceptable to think, feel, and say. But it all has to be run through your narrowly focused filter. Fuck that. Black lives matter to me, people who do stupid shit don't.

[bravenak]

69. I have been watching since day one.

It was even here on DU. Twitter. Facebook. I posted an article that you all had hid because it was an unflattering portrait of Sanders's supporters. I give up on trying to tell you what you are dound wrong (that is the generic you).

[whatchamacallit]

73. Lol generic to what?

The "Sanders Race"? The way you talk we're an ethnicity? Ironic.

BTW you haven't given up on shit. You're still telling people to kiss ass.

[bravenak]

92. Kiss ass? How about not lose the election on progressive egos?

How about 'LEAVE BLM ALONE!!!' Or they will heckle the fuck out of your candidate.

[whatchamacallit]

100. They're gonna do it anyway

This control mechanism: threatening the election unless we get in a box, ain't gonna work. You already admitted it's likely too late to sway the AA vote, so why put with this bullshit if there's nothing in it?

[bravenak]

101. Then talk shit about them. But do not pretend that you do not undestand why Bernie lost Blacks.

This is why. What YOU are doing is why. Enjoy heloing him lose, okay. You are doing fantastic!

[whatchamacallit]

104. Bullshit

Yours is an irrational game, and only the irrational will play it.

[bravenak]

107. Them and winners. Hillary is playing. She is a WINNER. In to to win it. Only way to win is to play.

[whatchamacallit]

110. Glad you finally came out.

Hillary may win, but don't fool yourself into thinking PoC will be rewarded for their faith.

[bravenak]

128. I been said :

"You call her a panderer, and maybe she is; but with the way Bernie's supporters are acting, Hillary will be eating a bean pie, wearing a dashiki, and cha cha sliding her ass straight into the whitehouse!'
Now, that is a paraphrasing of my post back on madflo's thread where I asked, a few days after netroots, that his fans not talk shit about BLM and harass black people because they are hurting his campaign. You should go back and just look through to see that I have been consistantly identifying the problem and asking for a course correction. Pretend you are black and read the responses. Then you'll see i'm right as rain as usual. Prescient. Rarely do my predictions fail.

[whatchamacallit]

134. This "Bernie's supporters have ruined everything" concept is a joke

Worse, it's a flat out lie. There is no homogeneous hive-mind of "liberal white supremacists" supporting Bernie Sanders. I'll say to anyone, regardless of ethnicity, basing your opinion of the candidate on what some subset of supporters may say on the Internet, is weak-minded. Period.

[bravenak]

171. Yeah. You go with that. Perfect.nt

[whatchamacallit]

174. It's not working bravenak

your superpower: Empty Threats is a fail.

[Fawke Em]

226. No. You're being a fucking bully.

A bully is a bully.

[artislife]

262. That is kind of funny

Being heckled and shut down is very hard on white people, in general. That haven't gone through racism. Frankly, I don't think they could handle it.

They have no muscle built up, to take people hating you for no good reason. You see, they cannot understand the reason why..

But PoC know that there doesn't have to be a reason why. It can just be.

Very hard when you haven't lived your life with it.

[guillaumeb]

141. "white supremacist liberals"? Really bravenak?

How can a liberal possibly be a white supremacist?

We all know who the white supremacists are. They are the people wearing the white robes and pointy hats burning crosses and lynching people, right?

What about liberals who sign welfare "reform" laws and sentencing "reform" laws that just happen to target non-whites? Are they also white supremacists?

What about liberals who benefit from white preference while saying nothing about it? What about white liberals who live in all white neighborhoods and only associate with other white people? Supremacy or coincidence?

What about liberals who say "all lives matter" as a correction to "black lives matter"? Yes, all lives DO matter, but white 12 year olds are not getting murdered by the police in parks. Whites are not getting killed for failure to signal a turn, for selling loose cigarettes, for having a missing license plate, for walking in the street. Only blacks are suffering from these things.

Keep talking bravenak. Maybe people will start listening.

[bravenak]

149. I have met some myself that told me to go back to Baltimore.

Let's call them 'progressives'.
They want to fix black people's thinking and educate us on how to behave more acceptably to them as white folks.
They theeated to not support black lives unless we behave the way they want.
They whitesplain black poverty to black people.

I already bitched Hillary out on a thread yesterday about Welfare reform. Didn't know I was supposed to do it all day everyday.

They do not know they are acting racist because when somebody tells them they find a hundred white voices to drown out the 10 black ones. That is white supremacy. It happens all day everyday. We live with it.

[guillaumeb]

159. Yes, we all live with it, but only non-whites suffer from it.

You are obviously making people uncomfortable.

It is interesting that even on a Democratic site there are certain topics that are off limits. The limits of liberalism.

If you are not familiar with this song, please give a listen:

[bravenak]

170. Thank you. Things have not changed one bit.nt

[lovemydog]

252. In the ways Phil Ochs

was singing about, they have not changed. It's so sad.

Some understand. The rest are too defensive, too quick with hostility directed toward legitimate opinions. Opinions that should be heard at this site.

Opinions that progressives should listen to without personalization or condemnation.

I'm proud to say you're my friend here. I'm proud to say black lives matter.

I just read you're on a time-out. I hope you read this and wish you all the best.

[tammywammy]

199. oh oh oh!!!

The whitesplaining, the "blacks just need to be educated about Bernie", and "but he marched with MLK!!!"

I'm white and that shit was clear as day racist. And now, oh joy, it's coming all back! Those BLM are just Hillary operatives, don't ya know.

[virgogal]

206. No one is telling blacks how to behave and no one is

telling Asians,a true minority,how to behave.

Asians just do it on their own and are beating everyone out.

[BainsBane]

50. As do I

Fuck all the politicians. People have some messed up priorities.

[bravenak]

99. Thank you!!!! This is how it should be. They work for us, they are not kings and shit.nt

[Puglover]

34. This.

What. A. Pile.

[mcar]

16. bravenak you rock

[bravenak]

17. Lol!! Thank you!!

[sadoldgirl]

27. I am not afraid of black women,

I even supported their presence at first, but if they
had really cared they would have turned the mic over
to Bernie after the 4.5 min. of silence.

By not doing even that as well as shouting
"white supremacist liberals, they turned the crowd
against them. That is not wise, because the BLM
movement cannot succeed without white
participation. They obviously did not care one
way or the other, and that gives me a lot of
different thoughts now.

[bravenak]

33. They do not care about yr feelings, it is about their lives.

You know they read the complaints from Bernie fans about themselves, right? They see all they shit his fans say to and about black peopke and now people see him as a reflection of his support. If you have racist fans folks think your racist if you just let them run wild and not give direction.

[oregonjen]

62. I guess I'm not understanding, where and when were Bernie supporters harassing

black people? Why would white supremacists support Bernie? That doesn't make any sense at all.

[bravenak]

65. They have been harassing since netroots.

Look up Imani Gandy and read what she wrote on it. At RH Reality check.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

38. There's a time and place for acting like a loudmouth Jerry Springer idiot.

A rally in support of Social Security and Medicare is NOT that place.

[bravenak]

41. They don't care what time or place you thought it was.

Black lives matter all day every day. Lol!

[WorseBeforeBetter]

54. Do these screeching Seattle #BLM protesters not grasp --

at a SS and Medicare rally -- that if SS and Medicare are cut, African Americans will be the hardest hit? These women must be mind-boggling stupid.

[bravenak]

61. Do you think that just because you warn me that we will be the worst hit it will shut black folks up

? No. It will not. We are ALWAYS the hardest hit. We know that. We are not diots. But we get talked to like we're fucking toddlers that do not understand how the system that oppresses us works. Funny that. Asked you guys to stop lecturing black people in the internet. Most of us posting political shit are very well educated. Otherwise we'd be at our shitty jobs or taking several busses to work. No time for this shit as a poor uneducated black person. So when you do meet a politically minded one of us, we probably know MORE than you. SURPRISE!!!!!

[WorseBeforeBetter]

75. Those loudmouth Seattle #BLM protesters acted worse than "fucking toddlers"...

you reap what you sow. You may understand it, but why do you *assume* those protesters do? Stop acting like such a victim -- no one is expecting "black folks" to shut up. But aggressively storming a stage and getting in peoples' faces -- people ON YOUR SIDE -- is fucking idiotic. And yes, Bravenak, black folk can be fucking idiots just like white folk. Ain't life grand?

[bravenak]

78. Have fun with your election losing rants.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

81. Enjoy how NOTHING improves for "black folk" after Hillary is elected. (n/t)

[bravenak]

83. Better than getting talked shit to for 8 years while he does the same nothing.nt

[WorseBeforeBetter]

90. Jesus. Listen to yourself. You'll accept Hillary's soothing words... why?

Especially since you know nothing will improve.

Sanders does not talk shit to you, or any other AA. The victim shtick is stale.

[bravenak]

94. His fans do the shit talking and then say 'It wasn't BERNIE!' All fake innocent and shit.

Fuck that. Ain't nobody joining that mess and a half.

Look at you. 'Black folks playing the VICTIM again!! Lord knows that white Bernie is the REAL victim.' Lol.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

106. Enjoy your impoved life with Hillary in office, Brave.

[bravenak]

109. Maybe she'll hire me and take me to visit Kim and Kanye. I love them.nt

[WorseBeforeBetter]

112. That takes care of you. What about all the other black lives that matter?

Can she hire them, too?

[bravenak]

122. Can Bernie? Nope.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

127. You suggested being hired by Hillary to get closer to celebrities.

It's clear where your priorities really lie.

[bravenak]

135. Don't be a silly. It's called HUMOR.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

139. That's why I used the little winkie, or did you miss that? (n/t)

[RichVRichV]

234. Wait, you understand how important these programs are

yet you support shutting down a conference devoted to protecting them?

[misterhighwasted]

74. Maybe they found out about the racist, bigots of Liberty U welcoming Sanders.

And he accepted the invite.
Perhaps that is what helped encourage today's interruption.
Perhaps they see Sanders as, walking away from addressing BLM, but accepting an invite to the most hateful racist place in America. Liberty U.

Maybe this is a motivating factor.

Just sayin'

[bravenak]

79. It makes me think bad things myself.

[misterhighwasted]

98. As volitile as racism is at the present time, from Ferguson to Charleston,

..BLM, just like Code Pink, or Occupy, draws a line & demands their concerns be addressed, & that they be given the respect of recognition.

Sanders' campaign may decide to meet with them to better find a point of compromise, or ignore them, walk away, & label BLM illegitimate.
Will be interesting to see how Sanders handles the concerns of a segment of society that want an answer.

[bravenak]

105. I said last month that he needed to HIRE any of them who woukd work with him.

He needs to meet with them and spend time with them. Nobody thinks my advice is good but it is the only way to work it.

[misterhighwasted]

140. Your advice is precisely how it needs to be done.

My personal insult is that after today he accepts a place at the podium of the most bigoted group in the country.
They didn't censor him. They invited him in.
Guess he won't have to worry about the "BLM 3" disrupting his speach at Liberty U wher racists educate their kids to be racists.
How sick.

[MADem]

116. Code Pink and Occupy got feted and cheered here at DU.

Hell, Occupy even got their own little group~!

Of course, Code Pink and Occupy had something in common that BLM doesn't have--and that's a lot of people who have never had to deal with the issues that BLM are speaking out about.

[mcar]

124. And the same people here

Who cheered on Code Pink and OWS are castigating BLM. The mind reels.

[misterhighwasted]

153. It's the hypocrisy that is so stunning.

[mcar]

188. This exactly!

[Number23]

259. You could not have nailed that any harder.

You are exactly right.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

133. What's preventing anyone for asking for a #BLM "own little group" on DU?

Get one set up.

Code Pink and Occupy's issues (war and income inequality, to name a few) affect black lives. I attended numerous Occupy and Moral Monday events in Raleigh. Participants were of all races, ethnicities, genders, ages, religions, and occupations. The bullshit division exists on DU, but not out in the real world, thank goodness. I take that back. #BLM is pretty divisive. Occupy and Moral Mondays are inclusive. Thank you, Reverend Barber, for that.

[MADem]

158. Occupy didn't think it was "cool" to allow John Lewis to speak.

That's when I pretty much shut the door on that bunch. The only good demonstrations they had, the unions organized. Campers with attitudes. Talk about a wasted effort.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/10/11/ten_minutes_of_occupy_atlanta_acting_like_jerks.html

[misterhighwasted]

161. Code Pink & Occupy's issues are critical to them.

Worth the fight.
BlackLivesMatter' issues are just as critical to them.

They all serve a legitimate purpose.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

86. Sanders accepted the invite to discuss income inequality...

something that affects all races, but AAs the hardest. Taxing the rich and giving to the poor. Being our brothers' keeper. Are these latest #BLM interrupters too fucking stupid to understand that?

[misterhighwasted]

113. And calling them fucking stupid is helping how?

Sanders can go to Liberty U for a nap & a cup of coffee.
The place represents all that BLMatters absolutly stands against in this country.

Bernie Sanders will have to make his way through this prickly path.
Good luck.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

125. I asked, not called... read it again.

Falwell and Liberty U disgust me, but I applaud Sanders for having the balls to go there and deliver his 'help the poor' message. Seriously, Bernie, the Jewish Democratic socialist speaking at a Christian anti-socialism university is DELICIOUS. Can't make #BLM see the beauty in it. They wouldn't listen anyway, they're too busy screaming at people who are on their side.

[MH1]

157. it helps about as much as calling all the Sanders rally attendees "white supremacist liberals".

Un.Fucking.Believable.

The only one who benefits from this racist bullshit dividing liberals, is the republican nominee for President.

How does "President Scott Walker" sound to you? Oh yeah, like Black Lives will REALLY Matter then.

[misterhighwasted]

167. Well apparantly BLM doesn't much matter to Sanders either.

He turned his back, left & shut down the event.
You are right, Walker wouldn't give them any recognition either.
But Walker certainly would stand before a well behaved group of students at Liberty U.
Total heap of dung.
Sanders drew a line today. He is what he is.
BYE

[RichVRichV]

241. You do understand

That the event was about social security, medicare, and medicade. Maybe you should start a meme about how he doesn't care about those instead.

The simple fact is that he didn't walk away because he doesn't care about black lives. He walked away because the people on stage we're acting irrational and emotionally charged. They weren't interested in anyone elses point of view. You can't have a constructive conversation in that environment. But that doesn't fit with your optics.

[artislife]

263. He had two more events today

I believe in BLM, but I don't think there was going to be a speech allowed by Sanders at Westlake.

[840high]

245. Like the bigot preacher at Obama's inaguration?

[Bluenorthwest]

268. Liberty is homophobic institutionally, still has LGBT students. It's 48% white, 15% black, has lots

of ethnic diversity. Jerry Falwell has been dead for many years, but Teddy Kennedy spoke there with Jerry live on that stage.

So as a gay person, I'm a huge opponent of Liberty and that community, but I do not get where your 'most hateful racist place' is coming from. The place does not even have a white majority. It has a Christian majority. Ya know?

Also, as a gay person I would like to inject here that Obama's primary campaign featured a 'Faith and Family' tour of South Carolina, which had as speakers and entertainers several evangelists of the openly anti gay sort, hate preachers who had said gay people kill children appeared on that stage for Obama. Some of them preached against gay people right then and there.

Why did Obama do this? According to Obama he did it to win votes and reach out to people who might not agree with him about everything. DU at that time was very strongly supportive of Obama doing events with anti gay preachers. LGBT critics of those events were attacked and shredded to bits.

[Starry Messenger]

84. I only unhid this forum because you are so awesome in here.

[bravenak]

89. Thank you so much!! I'm trying.nt

[misterhighwasted]

114. You are a twinkling star

[MADem]

120. /\/\/\/\/\/\

[Bobbie Jo]

169. Absolutely

[misterhighwasted]

117. + 10000 This ^

[cali]

142. she was shoving and screaming. And anyone.can be scary.

[Cali_Democrat]

242. So why didn't security escort them out?

It's not the first time in the history of the world that an event has been disrupted by protesters.

This whole thing is just bizarre.

[Cosmic Kitten]

150. Ray Mc Govern

[SwampG8r]

243. Stop scaring me!!

[artislife]

5. Not going to happen

Black Lives Matters matters. What they are protesting is worthy.

What is happening now...I won't comment. So many thoughts running around my head and a lot of them at odds with each other.

But the worse thing to do, is to forget that they are talking about Black Lives that have been cut short due to racism. You don't throw them off stage.

[winter is coming]

7. They likely *wanted* to be removed by security. n/t

[whatchamacallit]

14. I'm sure of it. Imagine tomorrow's newspapers?

[winter is coming]

18. And instead we got a meandering rant and Bernie shaking hands with the crowd. n/t

[Agschmid]

19. Wait...

I thought he wasn't covered by the media?

[whatchamacallit]

23. Lame

That sure would be. The media's main interest is his failure.

[Agschmid]

24. I don't agree.

The media's main interest is a contentious primary, his failure would stop that in its tracks.

[whatchamacallit]

26. They're expecting and counting on that from the presumed Jeb - Hillary horse race

Sanders is mostly noise to them at this point.

[Agschmid]

30. If they are counting on Jeb they are fools.

[whatchamacallit]

88. They're definitely counting on Hillary. n/t

[Ed Suspicious]

228. Any of Bernie's success so far is despite the MSM - not because of it.

[mikehiggins]

22. Like that isn't what they are trying to precipitate?

You could just imagine the headlines if the rally organizers (it wasn't a Sanders event by the way) had called in Security, or even better the Seattle cops.

Sanders reminds me of the character in Pitch Black. You just don't know who you're )(*)* with.

[JI7]

28. people really are afraid of telling 3 black women who are DISRUPTING

An event to shut up ?

Instead that will just shut down the event and start attacking black people on the internet. And start on the conspiracy theories.

[djean111]

40. Oh, my - last time Bernie told disrupting folks to shut up he was vilified.

Funny how bendy that concept is - I believe that if he told those women to shut up he would have been criticized for that.

[JI7]

48. it was nothing more than some threads by hills supporters

And posted long after it actually happened.

[Larkspur]

144. Too bad the Vulcan nerve pinch is a piece of fiction

These BLM bullies needed it.

[BainsBane]

29. Is this still about Netroots or another event?

[bravenak]

39. Another event. I hope he comes up here so I canshut that whole thing down singlehandedly.

I mean, I AM black, and I have two friends. Black women are magic.

[BainsBane]

44. I guess

But they aren't just black women, bravenak. They are Hillary's black women. I read it on DU. It must be true.

[bravenak]

49. Hillary's magical black women.

They don't fuck with O'malkey either. Oh, that's right, he stayed to chat after his performance. Hillary invited them to visit. Bernie sent out a legion of warriors to 'correct' those unruly negroes.

[BainsBane]

53. This could have been a golden opportunity for him

I don't know how he is handling it in the moment, but this kind of reaction we see here can only hurt.

[bravenak]

56. It's worse on twitter.nt

[BainsBane]

63. Here's a video and article

Bernie left. http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/black-lives-matter-protesters-shut-down-bernie-sanders-rally/

[whatchamacallit]

52. Exactly what we'd expect

from a "Bernie supporter"

[bravenak]

58. Do you know how jokes work? That was one. We call them jokes.

[whatchamacallit]

67. Well, if you think what they did in Seattle was valid

why don't you shut down one of his events?

[bravenak]

70. I would be honored to do so. Tell him to come up here, I have two friends.

We can shut down a LARGE event with just 3 black women.

[kath]

224. So you think any event where Bernie Sanders speaks should be shut down?

really??

And what useful purpose would that serve?

[WorseBeforeBetter]

32. They went into Jerry Springer mode. Loud and aggressive.

Watch the video. I would have booted their screeching asses from stage, and it would have gotten even uglier. I guess the organizers decided to let them throw their little tantrum. I didn't see cops present, just older white men in orange vests -- probably volunteers -- and they got in their faces.

Trust me #BLM, this will NOT rally the masses to your cause.

[JI7]

37. so tell them to shut the fuck up and let him speak

[WorseBeforeBetter]

47. I would have. But I wasn't there.

I don't think that crowd expected screeching daytime-TV type fools to take over the stage. The crowd did chant "Let Bernie speak!" Seriously, this was at a SS and Medicare rally. Do these idiot Seattle #BLM activists not realize that if SS and Medicare are cut, AAs will be the hardest hit?

[Ed Suspicious]

229. On the plus side, I think crowd reaction is going to be much less tolerant of shenanigans going

forward. People are there to hear what the man has to say. If they want to dialogue, ok, but to hijack the mic? I would be damned annoyed with it if it happened in Madison when I was there.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

235. I'd be annoyed too, especially after waiting in line...

for a couple of hours to get a place and for the rally to start. Sanders is a soft target and they know it. Twenty (?) in the Republican Clown Car, "Prison Industrial Complex" Hillary, "bad mayor" O'Malley, "Confederate Flag" Webb... and they target Sanders. It makes absolutely NO sense. Who is driving this?

[Enthusiast]

246. I believe we know who is driving this.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

250. The Hilldabeast?

I just saw that somewhere and did LOL.

Lawdy, this topic has given me a headache. I think I need to pop a Valium and get to bed with some soothing music. And donate tomorrow to Sanders in honor of #BLM. Or maybe "white supremacist liberal."

[djean111]

43. Or any other Dem candidate's cause. n/t

[stevenleser]

162. Can't have those black people be loud and aggressive. How dare they be so uppity

Why don't they know their place? Only white people are allowed to be loud and aggressive protesters. Black people can only get loud and aggressive when white people give permission and say it's ok.

in case it's necessary

[bravenak]

168. My god. I keep on trying to help them and this is what they come up with.

And so fucking proud of themselves.

[stevenleser]

185. It has been an eye opening experience for me on a number of fronts

Down thread, a person who uses a Che Guevara icon (who advocated guerrilla warfare and violent Revolution all over the globe to achieve left wing goals) said the protesters were too aggressive and complained they were using intimidation tactics.

I think I have found that far too many folks are only supportive of protest and struggle when they give permission. If their sacred cow is being protested, then the rights and goals of protesters don't matter, they should just shut up, even in the case of BLM who are literally protesting to save lives.

[bravenak]

194. This shit is unreal.

When he loses the little black support he has they can blame themselves.

[bravenak]

189. And hiding my posts only PROVES my points.nt

[mythology]

217. Some people might think that a hidden post means they went over the line

But that would require introspection about tossing out claims that people are racists left and right and how that might be inaccurate and make people unwilling to listen to you.

You use the word racism as a cudgel to "win" arguments, but that's not particularly effective when it's really just name calling to avoid discussion. You've tossed out the accusation that it's racist for people to find Kanye West untalented. At that point, it was clear to me that you aren't using the term in any meaningful sense other than to attack people.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

184. Yeah, that doesn't work on me, sarcasm or not.

Occupiers and MM protesters were beaten, Tazed, pepper-sprayed, and/or arrested for peacefully protesting. The Seattle #BLM loudmouths were close to getting physical with Sanders and the event organizers. Is that OK in your world? If someone did that to Reverend Barber, or hell, Hillary Clinton, this same DU crew condemning Sanders would be up in arms. Enough with the hypocrisy.

#BLM's tactics will not rally the masses to their cause, but go for it.

[stevenleser]

186. And what happened to Occupy and MM should have taught you something

Folks should have the right to protest and be heard with very few exceptions.

The only exception I've argued against was when tea party folks were disrupting town hall meetings with members of congress. One of the few times a year when people of a district can all Interact with their elected representative without having to travel.

I defended occupy, code pink, mm and everyone else in all other circumstances including the tea party who I thought were astroturfed and idiotic.

I certainly support a group trying to save the lives of black people who are being killed and abused by police in alarming numbers. What is more important than that right now?

[Comrade Grumpy]

198. I don't care what color they were. They were rude assholes. And now they've apologized.

Maybe you should to for your insinuations that criticism of them is racist. That's pretty fucking low.

[stevenleser]

200. I stand by it 100%. It's too bad you can't see it. Accusing black people of being too

Aggressive, particularly when they are protesting something?

That's not even a hard one. It's a very typical race biased trope.

[Comrade Grumpy]

212. It's not about their being black people; it's about their being assholes.

They're not being criticized for their skin color and they don't get a pass because of their skin color.

[840high]

248. One 16 yr. old kid apologized.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

256. I don't think that kid was associated with the official Seattle #BLM group.

Could be wrong about that, though. I think there's a good thread in LBN that lays it out.

[ruffburr]

45. That's not Bernie-

He gave them the microphone they had no cohesive message beyond

[JI7]

51. he has done it before and this was much more deserving of the shut up

Response

[demwing]

60. There's an image for the news @ 9 crew

black women ejected from Sanders speech.

Makes you wonder if that was the goal...

[BainsBane]

66. Bernie left the event

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/black-lives-matter-protesters-shut-down-bernie-sanders-rally/

[jberryhill]

71. Don't tase them, bro

[gwheezie]

72. Am I reading that the blm folks don't know what's good for them

Seriously, are you kidding will someone please tell the black women how to behave so white folks understand black lives matter because ya know this is about us white folks.
I can't believe I'm reading this.

[bravenak]

82. That is EXACTLY what you are reading.

[gwheezie]

85. I'm in tears

I'm sitting in the fucking laundramat with tears running down my face, I don't know how these young folks do it day after day, I am in awe of them and thankful they have so much hope.

[bravenak]

96. I'm proud of them. They are doing what needs doing. That matters to me.

I predict more of this type of shit.

[whatchamacallit]

87. You can choose to see it that way but

If a white group with a misplaced beef were targeting Sanders exclusively, they'd be savaged by his supporters. Rightfully.

[gwheezie]

93. We're not talking about white people

Blm isn't talking about all lives matter, its black lives matter, black lives matter.

[whatchamacallit]

103. They do

but taking Bernie down helps no one, and telling his supporters to stfu while they do it helps even less.

[snagglepuss]

91. Yawn.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

102. Believe it. Their "behavior" will NOT rally the masses to their cause.

And the Seattle crowd was diverse. You know, improved optics and all that.

[TNProfessor]

201. years...

Years since I created my account and I never posted much because DU's view on race is extremely frustrating. I started lurking again because of election season and I see it is worse than ever. Men and women are dying regularly at the hands of police and we are creating thread after thread about three protestors at a campaign speech for an election that is six months away? Fucked up...

[Number23]

260. "I can't believe I'm reading this." Believe it. Our white "liberal friends" have been at this for

weeks now.

Don't you just feel the love? Feeling secure that these people have our backs, understand our issues and realize their importance yet?

[terrencebone]

95. It wasn't just three people...

There were three women and one man on stage, all black. But there were also what appeared to be organized supporters throughout the crowd -- especially the 8 or 10 white young people who raised the Black Lives Matter banner -- all dressed in black and making a rather Hitler Youth fashion statement. (Somebody please post a picture!) Yes, I would question who was really behind this -- maybe the Larouchies are still after Robbie Stern! -- but even if it was legitimately the local chapter of BLM, it's not like they have a moral monopoly on this issue.

The protesters antagonized the crowd by saying that they weren't going to let Bernie speak. Then after some conferring they were given the microphone for a while. They made some good points about racism in Seattle but mixed it in with insults to those present who didn't buy in to them having a right to seize the microphone. Then they announced that they weren't going to give Bernie the mike until the crowd observed a four and a half minute "moment" of silence for Michael Brown who lay on the ground for four and a half hours. Then that the moment wouldn't be considered to start until EVERYONE in the crowd was silent. This was a large crowd most of which was not very happy being dictated to this way, but it did quiet down to a surprising degree but four and a half silent minutes after waiting in the heat for almost two hours is a long time. After it seemed that the time was up they then wanted to start accusing Sanders of various things, still denying him a chance to respond.

If the protesters really wanted to ask Bernie some pointed questions, they completely blew their chance. I'm more inclined to believe the objective all along was just to embarrass the campaign and to start more twitter wars with people they will undoubtedly claim are white supremacists.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

111. “join us now in holding Bernie Sanders accountable for his actions.”

What actions are these protesters referring to?

Organizers allowed the period of silence, as some in the large crowd shouted for the protesters to leave the stage. Afterward, Marrisa Johnson, a leader of the Black Lives Matter movement in Seattle, asked the crowd to “join us now in holding Bernie Sanders accountable for his actions.” She motioned for Sanders to join her at the microphone.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/08/bernie-sanders-leaves-seattle-stage-after-event-disrupted-by-black-lives-matter-protesters/

Thought your synopsis was pretty accurate.

[winter is coming]

123. +1. They wanted to start something, not do something. n/t

[snagglepuss]

192. Thanks for this excellent eye-witness report. It sounds like they wanted

an angry response from Bernie and crowd. I suspect they were intending to film and photograph themselves as righteous victims of angry white progressives.


And a big welcome to DU. I look forward to reading more posts by you.

[winter is coming]

230. Which begs the question: why did they want to be filmed as victims

of angry white progressives? That does nothing to help Black Lives Matter.

[Agnosticsherbet]

131. Sanders having three black women handcuffed and hauled out

would certainly be a statement.

What he should have done was stand on the stage beside them, tell people in the audience to sit down and shut up, and then tell these women how he would address the issues that people of color face.

[winter is coming]

132. Do you think they would have let him speak? I don't. n/t

[Agnosticsherbet]

138. I think civil right must come first.

And, once again, Sanders has failed to take advantage of something that would appeal to a critical group of voters who made the difference in the last two Presidential elections.

It was a brilliant protest for civil rights. Everyone, and especially Sanders, should applaud and support BLM.

[winter is coming]

143. Yeah, calling the audience white supremacists was a genius move!

[Agnosticsherbet]

156. The audience did not act like peole who cared about

black lives.

[winter is coming]

160. Resenting a mic grab by some protesters != "doesn't care about black lives". n/t

[snagglepuss]

196. Please do expand on this. How exactly did you come to this conclusion?

[840high]

249. BS

[WorseBeforeBetter]

136. Did you watch the video? There was NO reasoning with these women.

They got very close to be physical. And if they did get physical, they should have been hauled out in cuffs.

[Agnosticsherbet]

152. So women protesting the police killing black people should

have been handcuffed by the police and hauled off?

I support their right to protest. I am stunned that Sanders has failed to make a direct appeal to Black Lives Matter and invite them onto the stage rather than wait for a protest.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

165. Moral Mondays protesters were arrested for peacefully protesting in the legislative building.

Nearly 1,000 of them. Peaceful Occupiers were pepper-sprayed, Tazed, beaten, and arrested.

The Seattle #BLM protesters were aggressive, threatening and close to physical, not meek little black women protesting police brutality. If they got any more physical, then yes, handcuffed and hauled out.

We'll see what comes of this, especially whether Sanders beefs up security. He's a soft target, and #BLM is exploiting that. Too bad Hillary won't come out from behind closed doors to see if #BLM would target her.

[Agnosticsherbet]

177. Not by Bernie Sanders.

Sanders had an opportunity and, again, failed to take advantage of it.

But if they were arrested, that would have been his equivalent of the Dean Scream.

Every media organization in the Country would have led with "Bernie Sanders Arrested Black Protesters."

[WorseBeforeBetter]

190. Watch the video. There was no opportunity.

They were aggressive and in faces and getting physical. I wasn't too concerned about safety with the protest at NRN, but with this crew I was. I don't like the idea of beefed up security and Bernie being closed off (like Hillary), but I do question what #BLM has next in store for him. I don't trust them.

[Agnosticsherbet]

202. Yes, that's called protesting.

They are demanding that the champion of the left address their issues.

So far, Sanders isn't listening.

I trust that the will continue to speak out and demand the equal right that everyone is promised.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

205. Bullshit, AH, Sanders has been in tune for decades.

I love a good protest, but I don't attack those on my side. Idiots.

[Cosmic Kitten]

145. review the recording, take names, hold people accountable

[Agschmid]

216. Accountable for what? Speaking their minds?

How quickly we ignore the first amendment when it doesn't suit us.

[Daniel537]

148. They should have been arrested for making threats.

I don't care how it looks, you don't get to go around threatening people and silencing them for any cause.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

154. For some reason, there's an expectation that "black women" be given a pass.

Why is that?

[Daniel537]

164. Well its a mix of Clinton supporters just trying to make Bernie look as bad as possible

and people who think it should be ok to use intimidation and harassment to push their agenda on anyone they wish. I think BLM has started to devolve into just people who are looking for their shot at being relevant on social media instead of actually fighting for minority rights. There's no substance here, even if Bernie said what they wanted to hear they'd still bash him for some other reason. Funny how they only target him. Useful idiots as Lenin used to say.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

173. Yeah, that's pretty much where I am this movement, "useful idiots."

I initially embraced it, but attacking someone who has been on your side -- for decades -- makes no sense. It's not like Code Pink slamming Condi, FFS. Or ACT UP going after Reagan.

Too bad Hillary won't come out from behind closed doors. I'm not sure how many events O'Malley has had, but they seem to be leaving him alone. Even though as Baltimore mayor, he advanced racist policies and aggressive policing, or so I've heard on DU. You'd think #BLM would be all over that, eh?

[Daniel537]

181. Jim Webb defended the Confederate Flag and no one from BLM said a word.

Can you imagine if Bernie gave a "non-definitive" answer on that subject? Please. I supported the movement in the beginning as well, being mixed-race myself it was an easy call at the time, but its just devolved into lunacy and publicity seeking. And i love all these faux supporters here who say "how dare we marginalize a black movement?", as if these despicable actions represent all people of color. And yes, still waiting for BLM storming of Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush etc.....rally.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

187. Yeah, you'll be waiting a while. We'll all be waiting a while.

Now why is that, Sanders being the ONLY target? I tend not to be into kooky conspiracy theories, but this whole thing reeks.

[snagglepuss]

211. There is major hostility towards white progressives within BLM. I first

became aware of it in the aftermath of Net Roots.There were numerous comments on a Guardian CIF thread after NR that revealed real animus towards white progressives or as they derisively say, emo-progressives.

[HooptieWagon]

178. Exactly.

[stevenleser]

270. Take a look at the icon you use and read what you wrote again. See if you see a disconnect. nt

[HooptieWagon]

176. Just turn off the mic.

And ignore the children until the temper tantrum runs its course.

[romanic]

180. I know!

[IMG][/IMG]
or maybe
[IMG][/IMG]

Those women were stunt queens, pulling tricks out of the hat and jumping up and down like they were gonna do something. I bet they got paid real well after all was said and done.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

208. Who or what the hell is that? Is it one of those reality housewives...

who is now in the clink?

[romanic]

210. It's Big Ang from Mob Wives

I actually met her in person during a trip to NYC, lovely woman and quite a character.

But back to my post, I had to post some funny gifs and try to make light of it because this whole situation made me so mad when i heard/saw it.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

213. "Real character" comes through...

I just find the trout lips a bit off-putting. Let's all now fight about collagen-enhanced lips!

[TheProgressive]

193. My opinion: Senator Sanders is a dignified person...

He expects people who come to see him speak to be dignified as well..

He will work for all people - get that thru your heads...PLEASE.....

[Fawke Em]

220. Two women and a man.

And they wouldn't leave.

Instead of having them man-handled, Bernie left, walked through the crowd and shook hands.

[Truprogressive85]

231. Here some Truth

No candidate will get the black vote since none of these candidates really cares about us.

To hell with this election cycle Don't call yourself an allie
And than question our authenticity.

Democrats can say bye bye to the white house since black people can't confront so called allies.

Black people issues are always pushed to the back burner

We have a black president ,black Ag and yet our issues are not talked about .
We are sick of waiting Obama can't save us,Lynch can't save us

The system is built a n racism and it won't change without forces pushing it.

Don't tell us how ,when or who to protest we are not slaves and you are not our masters

[winter is coming]

236. Welcome to DU! Enjoy your stay. n/t

[WorseBeforeBetter]

238. The poor spelling, grammar and punctuation are nice touches.

I'm *totally* swayed!

[jfern]

261. It wasn't his event

It was a Social Security and Medicare event.

But I sure hope he doesn't have his rallies shut down either.

[merrily]

264. Because no way having them removed by security could backfire on him, too, right?

Or result in even more trouble next time.



But, sure, everything is Bernie's fault and his heart is not in the right place, ever. I don't even know what I support the fucker.