IMO, Hillary's campaign is not behind the BLM disruptions. But...

[Armstead]

I also think she should defend Sanders from their distorted claims instead of slyly echoing them in her own statements.

[jwirr]

1. She is most likely just taking advantage of the situation. Anything for a vote.

[Gman]

7. Yup. It's called politics

And their both running for prez. If he gets stepped on its his own fault. Nobody else.

[virtualobserver]

2. she is a politician, that is what she does......

it is about whether you win or lose, not how you play the game.

[Gman]

8. Geez.

They are BOTH politicians.

[virtualobserver]

11. you don't have to play it that way, she chooses to.

[Gman]

23. Politics is a blood sport

You either kill or be killed. There is no nice.

[virtualobserver]

27. enjoy the blood

[zappaman]

12. Sanders is an outsider.

He doesn't do politics.
Or so I've been told...

[Gman]

21. He runs for office

He asks for votes. He gets elected then runs for reelection or higher office. By definition, he's a politician.

[artislife]

3. I expect nothing from her.

Nothing.

[Godhumor]

4. Yeah, telling activists they're wrong to be "activisting" is something no politician should do

It would be talking down to them.

[Armstead]

6. That would not be talking down to them

She can defend Sanders without attacking them.

[nc4bo]

14. How many Dem candidates are on the starting line? 5-6?

So far only 1 is getting the majority of the attention, that's my concern.

Racial injustice must be brought to each and every Democratic candidate. Why some are insisting bringing it to the GOP, heavens knows. We all know they could care less.

[Agschmid]

5. Yup.

[HerbChestnut]

9. We have no evidence of this...

Suspicion is not evidence, and throwing out accusations without anything tangible to back it up could have consequences.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

10. The other candidates should say something

However I don't expect anyone to do this. Dog eat dog.

[BainsBane]

13. What distorted claims?

And why do you think Sanders needs Hillary to defend him? What is what you all treating him like he's weak?
You want a president who needs Hilary to fight his battles for him? Maybe you all should consider something you think can handle some heat?

[Armstead]

17. Saying I don't believe she is responsible is a "distorted claim"?

um, yah, okay

[BainsBane]

18. I am asking you what distorted claims you are talking about?

That you feel Bernie needs Hillary to protect her from? Your post is not responsive to mine.

[Armstead]

19. That Sanders is clueless about racial injustice and doesn't give a damn about it

nor do his supporters

THOSE distorted claims

[BainsBane]

24. His supporters are showing exactly what their priorities are

They do not deserve defending. They deserve to be denounced.

No one in this country, no politician, no one in power, is giving adequate attention to the killing of black people by police. That is what matters. Not your sense that others should defend you because of your own actions and your own refusal to prioritize something besides yourselves and one politician's career.

I most certainly would oppose Clinton's coming out to defend a bunch of self-entitled white people over a social protest movement for black lives. The notion that you think your feelings matter more than those lives shows greatly distorted priorities. I hope Clinton NEVER speaks up in defense of the bruised feelings of the few over a social movement for the oppressed, over those targeted with death and murder. I would be gravely disappointed in her if she did. If she behaved like you or others here, that would seriously prompt me to question my support of her.

As for Bernie, if he can't defend his own positions on this or any other issue, he doesn't deserve to be president.

[Armstead]

29. Welcome to my Ignore list

The massive, pervasive chip on your shoulder has become tiresome.

[jeff47]

33. And yet BLM is only attacking one politician.

But apparently, being able to notice the zero protests of Clinton, Obama or Lynch makes me a white supremacist.

[n8dogg83]

15. I dont buy into the conspiracy theories.....

about Hillary paying BLM to protest. I think they showed up to Bernie's event because it is open to the public and easy for the them to get into and disrupt. Hillary's events are so pre-screened and usually consist of $2,700/plate fundraisers that they wouldn't have much opportunity to disrupt her events. I do, however, fully expect Clinton to use this to her advantage. She has proven herself willing to use race as a wedge before. Regarding Bernie and BLM in general. I know Bernie campaign has reached out to BLM "quite consistently" as said by BLM themselves. He will continue to speak out about race issues. I just hope BLM doesn't do more harm than good by bringing down the one person who, I feel, will go to bat for them in the White House.

[senz]

39. +1000 So. Well. Said.

[lunamagica]

16. Hillary should stay out of it. Sanders wants to have what's probably the thoughtest job in the world

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he needs to show that he can handle stuff like this, which is nothing compared to what he would face as president.

Hillary speaking up will only make him look weak; and what about her her? Do you think any of his supporters would appreciate it?

They would say that she is pandering, that she just want to make him look weak, that she planned the whole thing just to speak up, etc.

They better each handle their own campaign without interference from the other

[BooScout]

20. awwwww, ya need Hillary to make it all better?

Does ya want her to hold Bernie's hand thru this crisis too?

[Armstead]

22. No I want Hillary to do the right thing instead of capitalizing on this bullshit

[Joe the Revelator]

25. What crisis exactly, other than a misguided OR strangely specific attempt to paint him as a racist.

[whatchamacallit]

26. So you think this is great

and would totally support it if HRC was the target. Am I getting this right?

[gollygee]

30. She'll never be the target but only because

she probably has some serious security going on.

[whatchamacallit]

31. I see... so

BLM is too scared of the security to dare challenge Hillary? Is that the reason?

[gollygee]

34. No, like they might not be able to get in and get on stage.

If you want to protest, the first thing you need is opportunity.

[whatchamacallit]

37. Uh huh...

Might be a little more believable if they ever showed an interest in protesting Hillary. BTW you can make a big, disruptive noise from the audience. That technique has brought many a rally to a halt. No, me thinks something else is afoot.

[senz]

38. UGH.

[Doctor_J]

28. It's been clear since nrn that they ARE a part of the Clinton campaign

Time to stop acting like the Clintons are honest people

[stranger81]

32. It's obvious at this point that Bernie is their sole target.

That's not an issue based campaign -- it's political stalking.

Enough of this subterfuge. It's complete and utter bullshit.

[senz]

36. Yes, it IS obvious.

I hope the real perps (the ones who are behind it) can be identified.

[senz]

35. Ah, but Armstead, "slyly echoing them in her own statements" is what she did with muslim-baiters

against Obama in 2008. It's how she rolls. And it's a huge part of what turned me off to her way back then.

[kath]

40. +1

It IS how she rolls. Gah, does she ever disgust me.

[NCTraveler]

41. Hillary is simply not attached to any of this...

Except by conspiracy theorists. Sanders also shouldn't need to be defended by Clinton. Guy is running for President. Serious question considering your op. Have O'Malley or Webb defended Sanders? There is simply no connection to Clinton so it seems strange you would single her out as the one who needs to defend Sanders.

[Armstead]

42. O'Malley got blindsided. Webb is kind of weird.

O'Malley is responding to the damage done to his own candidacy as best he can.

But Clinton makes statement that "some believe that economics will solve racial problems but I disagree" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

Rather than "nudge nudge, wink" maybe Hillary ought to be at least be trying to help heal this growing gap on the non-GOP side, instead of subtly exploiting it.

That's why.