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Related: About this forumBlackLivesMatter was given million$ by Soros after Ferguson. soros=Hillary Benefactor.
Begs the question: are BLM only targetting Bernie to swiftboat him for hillary?
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Metric System
(6,048 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)It begs the question, why is only Bernie getting attacked?
BlackLivesMatter is looking more and more like a partisan Swiftboat group
mcar
(42,334 posts)Paranoia 101. Blaming Clinton for everything is really getting old!
I don't know where I am anymore.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Attacking George Soros and Hillary, just damn!
I'm sure all democratic PoC will be insensed to know that middle class white democrats think that BLM is just a front to get Hillary the nomination and the fact that their sons and daughters are being murdered by fascist military police forces all over America on a daily basis means NOTHING to Bernie backers!
No democrat has a chance of winning the white house without having the Obama coalition behind them 100 percent.
Belittling the fears and concerns of a huge part of that coalition will get a person a sure loss on election day and deliver this country into the hands of the Koch bros and their republican puppets.
These attacks on fellow democratic voters need to stop!
mcar
(42,334 posts)Obviously can't think for themselves.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....a hypothetical to show how ludicrous the OP is.
Jerry Greenfield gave money to Sanders.
Jerry Greenfield's foundation gave money to backpack programs in the Boston area.
Back packs were used in the Boston Marathon bombing.
Any connections?
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)And likely the very reason Bernie is targeted. His supporters are completely tone deaf and misdirect and divert every time BLM tries to message. BLM are trying desperately to get their message out, and all you get out of it is political expediency and jockeying.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Claim: George Soros donated $33 million to fund rioting Ferguson protest groups.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/sorosferguson.asp#hdXFk9vVvKxr4puj.99
TRUE: A grantmaking network founded by George Soros provided funding to some groups that engaged in Ferguson-related protest activities.
FALSE: George Soros gave money to various groups for the express purpose of promoting Ferguson-related protests and riots.
image:
Examples:
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/sorosferguson.asp#hdXFk9vVvKxr4puj.99
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)one would think that Beck would appreciate Soro's relatively enlightened views on wealth distribution?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)There is so much frenzied stupidity on this web site today it's unreal. These people are simply beyond ridiculous.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)No one is forcing you to post here with a gun to your head.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Why don't you make her leave?
Kurska
(5,739 posts)If they really do view du as nothing but a hive of scum and idiots. If it isn't up to their standards, why on earth are they here?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)To lift them up?
Number23
(24,544 posts)And yet, here you are...
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I'd say they absolutely nailed the inch-deep liberalism of some Bernie supporters.
dsc
(52,162 posts)your op is disgusting.
Cha
(297,322 posts)Seems like whenever something goes wrong a certain group of Bernie supporters jump in and make all kinds of crazy accusations, and blame it all on Hillary. It really gets old, and it's usually the same posters over and over coming up with these conspiracy theories. Kind of like they used to do to president Obama!
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... it's Bill's fault, or Obama's fault, or the media's fault, or the DNC's fault, or the low-info voters' fault, or ...
In short, BS is not responsible for anything - because the entire world is conspiring against him.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)and how quickly the RACISM burbles out of these people's mouths/fingers the second ANY FUCKING THING to do with #BLM is involved.
This same crowd that howled at the moon and brought themselves to all kinds of special feelings over OWS have accused #BLM of every damn thing under the sun. Of being "Koch funded right wingers," of being "dolts" of being "corrupt," "stupid," "not speaking for their community" and every other racially charged thing they can think of.
So it's okay for white guys to sit in a park, shut down Wall Street, bang drums and accomplish nothing but God help these unruly Negroes who dare to talk over their man! About people being LITERALLY murdered.
If all they did was blame Hillary, I probably wouldn't care that much. She is a politician and can take it. But what gets me is the RACISM that spews out of these people every chance they get. To call them disgusting is an understatement of epic proportions.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I'm screencapping this time.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The argument that African Americans and other minorities are tools of wealthy Jews is a classic anti semitic trope. On far right wing sites the election of Barack Obama was met with a yawn as he was portrayed as the puppet of wealthy Jews and his many Jewish supporters, some in high places, were held out as proof.
We always have to be vigilant against racism, anti-semitism, and nativism because at the end of the day they are cousins in hate.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)You might want to rephrase it lest you get a hide but that was the viewpoint that George Lincoln Rockwell, American Nazi Party founder, espoused in his famous Playboy interview with Alex Haley.
It's a fascinating interview:
https://archive.org/stream/1966PlayboyInterview/MicrosoftWord-Document1#page/n9/mode/2up
Sadly, some of the themes Rockwell propagated lives on.
dsc
(52,162 posts)that is exactly what the OP is saying and the OP needs to be called on his or her despicable post.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)dsc
(52,162 posts)but clenis and whatever is now the order of the day.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)eom
Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)This has been surreal.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)eom
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... a Totally Whacked-Out, Bat-Shit Crazy Conspiracy Group?
I only ask because if it does, this should have been posted there.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)but of course, conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton are all true...
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)There is nothing "creative" about this kind of speculation. It's based on old-school RW tactics that have been in play for decades.
The irony here is that BS supporters are stating, without a scintilla of factual support, that HRC is behind the BLM protesters - but Bernie is the one being "swift-boated".
Looks to me like Hillary is the one being swift-boated by the BS crew, being accused of things she has absolutely nothing to do with on a regular basis.
For people who allegedly believe that Bernie will be the next president, they sure come up with a lot of excuses for why he isn't getting any traction with the vast majority of Democrats. And it's always everyone else's fault - not his.
George II
(67,782 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)eom
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)I don't need any directions - in fact, no one here does. We ALL know where to find THAT group!
The same crowd the rec'd up the post calling the president a f' ing POSUCS. The same group that has been going after president Obama from pretty much day one. Now they have taken over the Bernie sanders group. They really love to stir things up, as you can see by the numerous threads going now on this board.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)It's been off the rails for a while now - so fasten your seatbelt, you're in for a very bumpy ride!
George II
(67,782 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
okasha
(11,573 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)tell the truth, there are lots among the PTB, who want
Bernie to get lost.
However, I wait to see at what point HRC will be
confronted by BLM in a similar way. After all, even
after a while she must somehow have rallies or not?
nolabear
(41,987 posts)I am just gobsmacked by this place sometimes.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)money having to change hands
but what's common is a rhetoric you can hear on DU and Twitter and Tumblr--that who/what you are isn't just important, but the primary determinant of your politics, economics, etc.; race and gender aren't constantly-negotiated dimensions to life but a permanent label--or brand, perhaps
therefore Clinton can be "the minority candidate" because she's female while setting up regimes and starting wars that kill plenty of women and POC and gays, and how she can specifically be "the Black candidate" despite the welfare reform and parties with redliners and war and neoliberalism and CCA and the "all lives matter"
that's why they can say "Sanders has a race problem" without pointing to any of his policies or his opponents' (and of course if you demur that's just magically proving their point you lefty white supremacist!)
now there's definitely a "Portlandia" effect with some liberals, damning the South for segregationism but carefully avoiding anyone who fails the paper-bag test: but these are "champagne Dems" rather than the social democrats since socdems always read--in fact the Portlandia types are likeliest to blindly vote Clinton because she's a Dem and the Dems are the party that's supposed to not be the party of war and gay-bashing; it's in fact Soros himself that best represents this Bono-loving bluewashed billionaire's club, trying to crush Venezuela in the name of human rights and open societies, and his typically-clean foundations are paid with a billion he made from crashing the ruble and another bil from tanking the pound
still_one
(92,219 posts)see to that are from sources like the Washington Times, and other right wing sites
George II
(67,782 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)image:
TRUE: A grantmaking network founded by George Soros provided funding to some groups that engaged in Ferguson-related protest activities.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/sorosferguson.asp#vq1tCzFo8S63uA2C.99
still_one
(92,219 posts)very little, unless of course there is an actual proof that Hillary is involved
This is similar to those making false extrapolations on Bernie with his upcoming speech at Liberty College, or guns etc. there is nothing there
I understand this is tit for tat, but I think it is far better for all side to debate the issues, unless as I said there is actual evidence of dirty tricks.
Another point, by BLM coming out to apologize sure implies that BLM thinks it should not have been done in a rally for Medicare no Social Security
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Daniel537
(1,560 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)Splinter Cell
(703 posts)Duh.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Bravo.
okasha
(11,573 posts)TNProfessor
(83 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)going to kill his campaign. I wouldn't be at all surprised if BLM targets Sanders campaign events just because if exposes some pretty ugly shit.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)tactics. It's not complicated.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Meanwhile they have squandered a lot of good will for the cause.
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)to tar Hillary too. Win-Win for the Koch crowd. just sayin'
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)MFrohike
(1,980 posts)I don't go for these much at all, but sometimes it's all I can say : .
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snot
(10,530 posts)if/when she has one.
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Beacool
(30,250 posts)I guess I was wrong.
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Number23
(24,544 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)I support Bernies policies, and I do not support Hillary. But I have a hard time believing that BLM is organized enough to be fully co-opted in this way. Parts of it, sure. But the whole thing, no.