Do you believe Bernie and his campaign deserve this treatment from blm?

[Ken Burch]

If so, why?

42 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Yes
	0 (0%)
	No
	42 (100%)
	Somewhat
	0 (0%)
	Not sure
	0 (0%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
Show usernames Disclaimer: This is an Internet poll

[BlueJazz]

1. If the BLM keep going down that road, they'll wind up like the people in Kansas,...

...voting against their best interests.

[GoneFishin]

2. All of us voters have to choose a candidate. They chose theirs, and it is not Bernie.

[NaturalHigh]

6. He's not mine either...

but I wouldn't jump up on the stage and yell at him that ne needs to be "held accountable" for something.

[HerbChestnut]

3. Behavior like that...

Will only divide people instead of bringing them together.

[Heather MC]

4. Their message is important, however, when you take over someone else's audience

you thank the person, you ask the audience for time to speak,
Drop some knowledge and get off the stage.

They know they messed up, that's why they issued an Apology.

I think it's best to accept the apology as long they actually learn from this mistake.

And Bernie needs a better Security Team. They never should have gotten to that stage

[NaturalHigh]

5. They didn't issue an apology.

The "apology" was from some guy who admitted he's actually not associated with blm.

[Heather MC]

30. Oh welp never mind then

[NaturalHigh]

7. So far, nobody will post why Sanders deserves this treatment...

but I see we do have a couple of voters who believe that he does.

[beam me up scottie]

8. Check their profiles - notice which candidate's threads they rec'd?

Tells you everything you need to know.

[AndreaCG]

9. Not especially

Seems they'd find worthier targets in the other party. I say this as a Hillary supporter.

[ibegurpard]

10. I believe that Black Lives Matter is a grassroots

Decentralized organization and it's becoming very apparent to everyone that it doesn't speak with one voice. I am very afraid that they are going to start being ignored because people will think they are a political front. The issues they are trying to bring attention to are far too important for that. They need some central leadership and organization.

[Heather MC]

31. Centralized leaders tend to be murder by the government in a Black People's Movement. King, Malcom,

Nat Turner...Etc

Black People don't need a Leader, We need Our Government to stop killing us and finally accept after years of captivity, black people are equal citizens and we deserve to be treated the same as our white counterparts.

What we need of the for the White leaders of this country to end they systematic Racist policies that allow for cops to kill unarmed people with zero consequence.

We need the white leaders in charge to retrain this idiot cops, or better yet remove them. and build a police force that better represent the communities they are policing

A 60% black population town should have a police for that is 90% non black.

(not using actual statistics)

[NCTraveler]

11. Every politician deserves it.

My heart goes out to Sanders. Fact is, this is bigger than him and they used him as a tool of theirs. Effectively. How has asking nicely worked? It hasn't. POC are just about the single most reliable voting block for the Democratic Party. If we aren't giving them change, time to fight for it.

[Ken Burch]

12. I think Sanders supporters would be fine with it if BLM went after all Dem politicians.

It's that they've given the others a total pass, when none of them deserve it, that tends to raise the ire. The way those women were acting this afternoon, you'd think Bernie was the new George Wallace.

[NCTraveler]

13. You start your argument with a fact that isn't a fact.

They have gone after two out of three of our top contenders. I know, my guy is polling below Webb, yet I'm still putting O'Malley in the top three. Hillary doesn't have to do the types of events Sanders and O'Malley do. I will put it here: Hillary will not be able to escape disruption to at least one of her events. No, it won't be as bad as their disruption to O'Malley or Sanders. She doesn't count almost completely on events ensuring things like this don't happen.

Two of our three top contenders have been disrupted by them. It will be three out of three by the end of the primaries.

[Skittles]

14. how about the people who are in power now?

[NCTraveler]

15. Yeah. I'm sure access to Obama is so easy.

I get it. You have better ideas for them. Good on you. I have no clue how you don't see how effective they have been. Two days after they first disrupted Sanders he started making serious changes to his stump speeches. Hillary has a BLM outreach group and speaks to their concerns regularly, O'Malley has put out the most detailed and progressive plan in this area than any of the candidates. But you are going to question their tactics? Ok. Keep at it. While they are playing a role in changing the conversation for the better, you are questioning their tactics.

That is true dismissal on your part that must ignore reality in order for it to hold merit. Why aren't they doing this? Why don't you do it for them if it's so brilliant and they are so ineffective.

[JDPriestly]

26. Bernie was among the first if not the first national politician to speak against the police

brutality in Ferguson.

BLM is demonstrating not just against the choir but against the priest.

They need to get a more effective strategy so that they can rally their supporters in all races against their real foes: racism and police brutality.

If they continue as they are, they will alienate rather than win friends, will lose precious time and fail.

they should have protested the Republican debates somehow. Access would have been impossible but they should not make things difficult for their friends. They should try to get action from the leaders at local and state and national levels. Bernie does not yet have the news coverage or means to achieve their goals. Disrupting the Bernie gatherings cannot be rationally viewed as serving the cause of BLM. He has always and cosistently taken stands against racism and police brutality.

BLM is not making good use of its time and energy by disrupting Bernie's events.

BLM is just looking foolish with these disruptions. The only people who care are Bernie supporters, and while we may not be supporting their cause precisely as BLM might like, we are their most natural allies.

It is sad to see BLM bungling this way. Wasting precious time and energy this way.

[NCTraveler]

27. Truly disagree with just about everything you wrote.

Fact is, some truly do think POC should view him as a priest. I appreciate your honesty there. While I find it extremely offensive, I understand it is the thought process of many. I'm glad to see it out in the open.

[Ken Burch]

28. Not a priest, or a messiah. Just someone who has proved he basically gets it and can be trusted.

Is it asking too much for Bernie to be given the benefit of the doubt?

[Ken Burch]

18. O'Malley just happened to be there. They weren't going after him.

The point was to attack Bernie.

And now, even though Bernie has fully and explicitly embraced their agenda, blm is STILL going after him.

It would be weird, btw, if O'Malley, the "white lives matter, too" guy, the guy who oversaw hardline policing in Baltimore, were to suddenly become the blm candidate.

[jfern]

19. Shut down Hillary next

Or lose all credibility.

[musicblind]

17. Of course Bernie Sanders does not deserve this kind of mistreatment.

I don't think you'll find anyone here who thinks he does. And I'm a Hillary supporter. But Bernie has a great record on civil rights. The whole thing is confusing.

[aikoaiko]

23. You'd think so but there is a lot of support for what BLM does to Sanders

Among a contingent of AA and HRC group members.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=502134

[AtomicKitten]

20. I was just reading.

Been sick and just reading, and to my surprise I see my name under "somewhat." I have no clue why that is. I don't think that, don't recall doing that, but I was way sicker earlier in the week so maybe that explains it. Nevermind. Sorry to bother.

[Ken Burch]

21. If that's not what you meant to do, you can switch your vote to something else.

That's what the "undo" prompt is there for.

Hope you feel better soon.

[AtomicKitten]

32. Thank you.

Cheers.

[davidpdx]

22. No, but apparently some DUers are blaming Sanders for the whole thing

They believe that it is his fault he didn't negotiate with those on stage that were screaming at them. With that kind of reasoning maybe they should be at a Donald Trump campaign rally.

[Ken Burch]

24. My impression was that he did negotiate with them.

Also, he did insist they be allowed to speak their peace-he could have had them forcibly removed from the stage.

[davidpdx]

25. Well Ken, someone who actually looked at the situation might from a reasonable point of view

might thinks so. But a place called reality doesn't really exist on DU.

[HereSince1628]

29. at least one mistaken click on yes...