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brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:43 AM Aug 2015

I must say I find it ironic...

...at how many people were in favor of CODE PINK or OWS disrupting a speech by a candidate or elected official, but are offended by a group who has a different political focus than they do or interrupts someone THEY like...

Personally, I have a simple, absolutist position. EVERYONE should have the right to speak without interruption. If you disagree with them, YOU have the right to speak before or after, OR somewhere else at the same time.

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I must say I find it ironic... (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2015 OP
Sure you do. ibegurpard Aug 2015 #1
Easy to say when your candidate is the safe beneficiary of this mess whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #2
they didn't just target one person, and.an ally cali Aug 2015 #3
I find it ironic that some who trashed Code Pink and OWS m-lekktor Aug 2015 #4
+1 whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #5
Did you not read my OP? brooklynite Aug 2015 #12
Did these two groups focus on ONLY ONE DEMOCRATIC candidate? sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #6
I don't find it ironic d_b Aug 2015 #7
They were attacking the people responsible for a war based on lies and those mmonk Aug 2015 #8
Good point. Code Pink also target actual assholes, rather than pro-peace politicians. n/t betterdemsonly Aug 2015 #10
I never saw Code Pink do anything like that, so this is just is a strawman and you know it. betterdemsonly Aug 2015 #9
It's something, ironic isn't it. Nt NCTraveler Aug 2015 #11
I find it ironic a 1%er telling little people how to Protest. bahrbearian Aug 2015 #13
interrupting a speech to arrest Henry Kissinger is ALWAYS the right thing to do. Agony Aug 2015 #14
You know I work for the Government, right? brooklynite Aug 2015 #17
We only know what you have told us... Agony Aug 2015 #21
What I've told you is that I'm a 1%er... brooklynite Aug 2015 #22
I find it interesting... moondust Aug 2015 #15
Code Pink disrupted warmongers and ACT UP Reagan Admin policies... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #16
In other words: it's good to interrupt THEM, but not to interrupt US..... brooklynite Aug 2015 #18
Attacking those on your side... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #19
Imagine the shitstorm here if some group demanded that Obama assume a submissive position.. frylock Aug 2015 #20

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
2. Easy to say when your candidate is the safe beneficiary of this mess
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:56 AM
Aug 2015

But thanks for your deep commitment to the 1st amendment. Lol.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. they didn't just target one person, and.an ally
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:59 AM
Aug 2015

at that. And, yes they are specifically targeting Sanders. And what those folks did yesterday was borderline violent.

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
12. Did you not read my OP?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:55 AM
Aug 2015

I said that EVERYONE deserves to speak without interruption. That includes Bernie Sanders. Is BLM wants to speak, they can do it an another time or elsewhere.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. Did these two groups focus on ONLY ONE DEMOCRATIC candidate?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:10 AM
Aug 2015

Did they threaten ONLY THAT ONE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE that they 'would shut down all his/her campaign events?

When this group issues the same 'warnings' to Republicans and to all other Democratic Candidates, and stops targeting only ONE Candidate, then we can compare them to other protesters.

 

d_b

(7,463 posts)
7. I don't find it ironic
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:12 AM
Aug 2015

This is a liberal (mostly, anyway) forum. Codepink's stated goals are to end U.S. wars and promote peace, so why wouldn't most of us support them when they go after architects and supporters of war? Even if I didn't support them, I see the logic there.

If you care about black lives, or ending the police state etc. why the heck would you keep targeting Bernie Sanders as if he's the problem? I mean...Bernie Sanders?

Calling progressives white supremacists? Huh?

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
8. They were attacking the people responsible for a war based on lies and those
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:13 AM
Aug 2015

responsible for economic inequality and too big to fail. That might be the part you don't get. I, however, understand disruptive protests or statement protests but have been, as many other have been, told we don't.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
9. I never saw Code Pink do anything like that, so this is just is a strawman and you know it.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:14 AM
Aug 2015

I saw them heckle war supporters, and I saw them engage in street theater. Never saw them completely refuse to allow someone talk, ever.

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
13. I find it ironic a 1%er telling little people how to Protest.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:01 PM
Aug 2015

Aren't they suppose to do that with contributions.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
14. interrupting a speech to arrest Henry Kissinger is ALWAYS the right thing to do.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:15 PM
Aug 2015

always nice to hear the FIRE sectors opinion tho… thanks!

Agony

(2,605 posts)
21. We only know what you have told us...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:43 PM
Aug 2015

As much as you seem to want it to be… this isn't about you.

Truly happy to have you here. Closest chance I get to have a colloquy with the FIRE sector.

Have a great afternoon, brooklynite.

Cheers,
Agony

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
22. What I've told you is that I'm a 1%er...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:20 PM
Aug 2015

...you kept to the conclusion that I must be a Wall Street type.

moondust

(20,006 posts)
15. I find it interesting...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:56 PM
Aug 2015

that so many HRC supporters are bending over backwards to find new and better ways of coming to the defense of BLM and/or blaming HRC's opposition after these selective disruptions. As I remember it, Code Pink and OWS disruptions are/were focused on ISSUES and not certain people. If BLM was truly focused on ISSUES they would not be barking up the wrong tree. Very interesting indeed...

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
16. Code Pink disrupted warmongers and ACT UP Reagan Admin policies...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:06 PM
Aug 2015

opponents, not those on the same side. And I never saw any Occupiers get physical with scheduled speakers, like these two Seattle #BLMers did. Read the Seattle #BLM press release, you'll see that they're pissed off at Sanders because of his reaction at NRN. Tantrum-throwing children is what they are, who would benefit from looking at the overall racial picture, like Sanders does.

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
18. In other words: it's good to interrupt THEM, but not to interrupt US.....
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:11 PM
Aug 2015

Good thing everyone has the same opinion on who US and THEM are...

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
19. Attacking those on your side...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:27 PM
Aug 2015

explain the logic to me.

I'm all for a good protest, and am not phased by interruptions. But when the attacks are highly personal (#bowdownbernie... FUCK THAT) and said protesters are physically threatening (like the two #BLM women were), they need to be stopped. Part of Bernie's appeal is that he's open and accessible, but after yesterday's stunt, I'm hoping he beefs up security at these less formal events. Some of this #BLM crew seems to be whipped into a frenzy, and I worry about his safety. Hillary's safe... she's got Secret Service protection and stays behind the gated properties of grocery chain moguls, and Kanye and the Kartrashians.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
20. Imagine the shitstorm here if some group demanded that Obama assume a submissive position..
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:59 PM
Aug 2015

#bowdownbernie was completely uncalled for. Liberal white supremacists? Fuck that shit.

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