2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCertain members of BLM related to this?
http://news.investors.com/blogs-capital-hill/052015-753642-ferguson-protesters-complain-about-not-getting-paid.htmWould shed a whole lot of light on why many in BLM were blindsided by the antics on Saturday and do not support them.
Link to more info and some names:
An angry protestor #cutthecheck posted donor & protestors names list 4 months ago when she still hadn't gotten paid.
Here's the twitter feed referenced:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/cutthecheck
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onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)According to their own Facebook pages.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)"I had a Sarah Palin button on backpack" Who is BLMS's Marissa "Johnson" Jenae?
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It's said that if you decide to act above reproach, you had better be above reproach. It seems that Marissa "Johnson" Jenae did not heed this warning. A photo posted by Jenae to her FB page (Linked) in which she stated "This woman has known me since high school, back when I had a Sarah Palin button on backpack....we been thru a lot."
Alone, we can surmise that she may have made a few questionable choices in her youth. OK, she was young, but Palin was a candidate for VP running against the first black president. But when I read down a little further, my benefit of the doubt limit had been reached.
"GOP shoulda groomed me right then...now they gotta see me on the other side *shrugs*"
For real? It's like that? This wasn't 8 years, or even 4 years ago. She posted that last month. So my question is, what kinda grooming would it have taken?
If you're going to accuse white liberals of racism, and target the only presidential candidate, U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders with a 40 year track record of standing up for #BlackLivesMatter you might not want people to know that "I had a Sarah Palin button on my backpack" or admit that the GOP could have "groomed you more". Because now you look disingenuous at best, and an agent provocateur at worse.#FeelTheBern #BlackLivesMatter2Bernie #SarahPalinButtonReally #BLMjoinBernie #NativeAmericanLivesMatter #Ismellcointelpro
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)I do not see any link in your previous post. Maybe it's just me ... or my pc .... ?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I don't know what is more disgusting - these phonies or the people here bending over backwards defending them.
MH1
(17,608 posts)By the way, if you think you are referring to me with your last sentence, you are way off base. I'm not defending this crap, apparently I'm a "white supremacist liberal" just like you, ya know? I was just curious to see the referenced page, and maybe I lost a few brain cells last week or something but I did not see it in the other post. Regardless how I feel about the info, claims like that really should have a link. I know, so old-fashioned, right?
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)4. This from her Facebook page
"I had a Sarah Palin button on backpack" Who is BLMS's Marissa "Johnson" Jenae?
?oh=ad41cf9b06eab719f93be123878f125f&oe=5646131E
It's said that if you decide to act above reproach, you had better be above reproach. It seems that Marissa "Johnson" Jenae did not heed this warning. A photo posted by Jenae to her FB page (Linked) in which she stated "This woman has known me since high school, back when I had a Sarah Palin button on backpack....we been thru a lot."
Alone, we can surmise that she may have made a few questionable choices in her youth. OK, she was young, but Palin was a candidate for VP running against the first black president. But when I read down a little further, my benefit of the doubt limit had been reached.
"GOP shoulda groomed me right then...now they gotta see me on the other side *shrugs*"
For real? It's like that? This wasn't 8 years, or even 4 years ago. She posted that last month. So my question is, what kinda grooming would it have taken?
If you're going to accuse white liberals of racism, and target the only presidential candidate, U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders with a 40 year track record of standing up for #BlackLivesMatter you might not want people to know that "I had a Sarah Palin button on my backpack" or admit that the GOP could have "groomed you more". Because now you look disingenuous at best, and an agent provocateur at worse.#FeelTheBern #BlackLivesMatter2Bernie #SarahPalinButtonReally #BLMjoinBernie #NativeAmericanLivesMatter #Ismellcointelpro
MH1
(17,608 posts)I went to facebook and put the person's name in and did not come up with any page that supported your post. Fortunately someone else was kind enough to actually post a link to another thread that has it.
But - Why the games? I just asked for a link, what is the big deal?
delrem
(9,688 posts)I don't know why that person responded over and over and still didn't supply an actual working link!
Strange!
MH1
(17,608 posts)I agree with you, it's kinda weird. Ah well, the link is here now so all is good. 
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)Don't you understand English?
cali
(114,904 posts)She is also explicit that white liberals are far worse racists than white cons.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Seattle Pacific University is a Christian university in Seattle, Washington founded in 1891 by the Oregon and Washington Conference of the Free Methodist Church as the Seattle Seminary.
I will leave it at that.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)It's in one of my posts - I'll try to dig it up. It's a serious fundy school.
Link here to post, locked: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141170737#post115
link from said link:
http://spu.edu/academics/school-of-theology/undergraduate-programs/student-stories/marissa-johnson
starroute
(12,977 posts)This is from last December, around the same time as Marissa Jenae Johnson was involved in attempts to shut down a shopping mall on Black Friday, a tree lighting, and later some upscale restaurants. The language it uses, "to cause discomfort," is the same used by Seattle BLM protesters.
https://smkeough.wordpress.com/2014/12/16/from-a-protester-to-seattle-church-pastors-and-leaders/
December 16, 2014
Last evening, Seattle Pacific University and First Free Methodist Church hosted the event “Seattle Evangelicals for Racial Justice.” Church leaders from various denominations and churches all over Seattle came together for worship, confession and lament, and expression of righteous indignation over systemic racism. . . .
Just before the commissioning at the end of the worship service, one of the organizers of the event stated that he had recently met with students of SPU who are participants in the downtown Seattle protests. These students were in tears, lamenting the fact that the church has been profoundly absent from the streets. These Christian young adults are using their bodies to disrupt the status quo, to cause discomfort, to shake people from complacency. Christian young people are responding to their theological convictions of justice by marching for hours in the rain, standing with one another in solidarity, and risking being maced, physically assaulted, and arrested. They are participating in and facilitating corporate prayers of lament and truth-telling through protest chants of “black lives matter,” “no justice, no peace,” and “hands up, don’t shoot.”
These Christian young adults are becoming pastors on the streets of Seattle. They are encouraging those who are weary, praying for protesters, fighting for the kingdom of God, being the visible presence of Christ. And they are tired.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)If you don't want to take the heat, I will.
starroute
(12,977 posts)It isn't about taking the heat, but my posts never get much notice. I think you'll do better with it.
starroute
(12,977 posts)SEATTLE -- Black Friday turned into a day of protests at malls across the country after a grand jury decision not to indict Officer Darren Wilson earlier this week.
Protesters in a St. Louis mall blocked shoppers and forced some stores to close. In Seattle, demonstrators forced Westlake Mall to close early on the busiest shopping day of the year and tried to disrupt the city's traditional tree lighting ceremony. . . .
Crowds of demonstrators marched in, past the holiday decorations and Black Friday shoppers, taking over escalators and eventually the fourth floor of Pacific Place, yelling down into the courtyard. Protesters at one point staged a "die-in," lying down on a floor inside the Westlake Center mall.
March leader Marissa Johnson explained: "America goes where their pocketbook goes, so today we're blocking Black Friday. We want you to be uncomfortable shopping."
http://seattleglobalist.com/2014/12/05/blacklivesmatter-capitol-hill-police-east-african-crime-profiling/31336
I wasn’t surprised when I ran into a crowd holding “Black Lives Matter” signs on my way home from a downtown movie last Friday. What did surprise me was the destination of the march.
They left downtown and headed towards Capitol Hill, stopping at the intersection of East Pike Street and 10th Avenue — the epicenter of a neighborhood boom that’s seen the recent rise of slick restaurants, pricey boutiques and mega apartment buildings — with a rallying cry to “shut these businesses down.” . . .
“Businesses, a couple specifically, have asked for more police presence and have been profiling particularly the youth of color,” explains Marissa Johnson who was at the protest, “A lot of people…are just being hassled by the police and Mike Brown shows us that any of those encounters can be deadly.”
Johnson is referring to a request for extra policing made by a number of businesses and the Capitol Hill Chamber of Commerce last summer. Her mention of profiling may refer to an open letter written by Jason Lajeunesse. Part owner of several capitol hill businesses, including three protested last Friday — Lost Lake Café, The Comet Tavern and Neumos — Lajeunesse wrote to Mayor Ed Murray complaining about “the gang (usually described as Somali)” that he said was “terrorizing our neighborhood.”
starroute
(12,977 posts)The Kochs are seemingly trying to buy off every university in the country, so the association with Seattle Pacific University may not mean anything. But I find it interesting that they're funding an SPU faculty member who specializes in faith-based market economics. (CCCU is the Council for Christian Colleges & Universities.)
Colleges and Universities with Programs Supported by the Charles Koch Foundation
August 2015
http://www.kochfamilyfoundations.org/pdfs/ckfuniversityprograms.pdf
http://spu.edu/academics/school-of-business-and-economics/about/shareholders-archive/february-2014/geri-mason
Teaching snuck up on Geri Mason, an assistant professor of economics at SPU. . . . After joining the SBGE faculty in 2010, she wanted to continue academic interaction with a broad group of scholars, and she was deliberate about involvement in such opportunities both inside and outside SPU. She joined a faculty group of the American Enterprise Institute, a faith-based economics think tank in Washington, DC, that facilitates a network for faculty members who are teaching economics or political science — mostly those in Christian colleges or universities.
Through this network she met Tom Copeland, a political scientist. They were both intrigued with the idea of introducing students to the historical roots from which both modern economics and political science spring. From this past-to-present perspective, how does the political economy affect the market economy, and vice versa? And how do we think about these matters from a faith perspective? These questions led to the development of a new study abroad opportunity, “Liberty and the Free Market in England.”
A grant from the CCCU supported the research and development of the idea and another grant from the Charles Koch Foundation is funding the pilot trip this summer.
starroute
(12,977 posts)This is from a year ago.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jacobfischler/major-union-drops-partnership-with-united-negro-college-fund
One of the nation’s largest public-sector unions is severing its ties with the United Negro College Fund because the group accepted donations from the Koch brothers and its president spoke at a Koch-funded summit.
In a letter sent Tuesday, AFSCME President Lee Saunders wrote that the UNCF has taken actions “deeply hostile” to public employees, which he considers a “profound betrayal of the ideals of the civil rights movement,” and that the union will end its relationship with UNCF.
Saunders cited the UNCF’s decision to accept a $25 million grant from Koch Industries, Inc. and the Charles Koch Foundation as a reason for the split, as well as the decision by UNCF President Michael Lomax to speak at a summit hosted by the Kochs in California.
starroute
(12,977 posts)In a letter to UNCF president Michael Lomax, AFSCME’s Saunders called the Kochs “the single most prominent funders of efforts to prevent African-Americans from voting.” Lomax’s appearance at the Koch brothers’ annual summit, where they plot conservative strategy – this year’s focus was taking back the Senate in 2014 — was “a betrayal of everything the UNCF stands for.” . . .
According to reporting in the Nation by Lauren Windsor, who obtained a “confidential” draft meeting agenda and spoke to participants, the summit Lomax attended drew Republican luminaries including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate candidates Tom Cotton of Arkansas and Cory Gardner of Colorado — three close races that are crucial to GOP hopes of taking back the Senate – along with 2016 presidential hopeful Sen. Marco Rubio. No Democratic officeholders or candidates were included in the annual confab, which took place this year at the St. Regis Monarch Bay Resort in Dana Point, California.
Titled “American Courage: Our Commitment to a Free Society,” an early panel featured David Koch and longtime political partner Richard Fink, with whom he set up the right-wing Mercatus Center, holding forth on “Saving America: Our Fight to Advance Freedom and Reverse the Country’s Decline.” A dinner and then a morning panel showcased the notorious Charles Murray, who has long posited the “intractable” and probably genetic intellectual inferiority of African-Americans (and, more recently, low-income white people) and preached that government programs worsen poverty by destroying the work ethic and marriage habits of the poor. . . .
On NewsOneNow, Roland Martin hosted a discussion on the Kochs’ donation last month that turned into a polite but sharp debate between Lomax and progressive economist Julianne Malveaux, the former president of Bennett College for Women, the oldest historically black women’s college. Expressing gratitude for UNCF’s support, Malveaux nonetheless questioned the “strings” attached to the Kochs’ gift: $18.5 million of $25 million is to create a “Koch Scholars” program, for “exemplary students” who want to study “how entrepreneurship, economics, and innovation contribute to well-being for individuals, communities, and society.” Koch organizations get two of five seats on that scholarship selection committee.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)RW extremists took over a Bernie event.
Not. Good.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)applauding and defending them. Truly, stupid is as stupid does.
demmiblue
(36,898 posts)It really is amazing to watch. Kind of like watching Mr. Rogers in a pretzel manufacturing plant, but far more twisted.
Zorra
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restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)They're a personality cult. Hillary is above reproach, even when she's promoting neo-con and neo-lib policies. And they support anything that helps their candidate, even rat-fucking or disruptions by narcissistic Fundy republican Palin supporters. They're totally down with it.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)By supporters of HRH.
It's sad to see. I can think of no reason to trust her one bit further than I can throw an office bulding on ANY issue. And she seems to spend an inordinate amout of time hanging around with some of the vilest people on the planet; Kissinger, Blankfein and Murdoch come immediately to mind. With friends like that....
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)HRH will court support from BLM for their votes, but they'll be the first ones she throws under the bus if elected...just like her husband did. I'm constantly amazed how some Democrats are repeatedly conned by the DLC/Third Way, just because there's a "D" next to their name.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)those people are rooting for laundry. Principles and policy don't mean shit to them.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)The right wing article you linked to claims that it's proof the BLM are paid protesters with its of right wing dog whistles like "ANSWER" and "New Black Panthers". The original accusation that BLM is a fake organization paid to "rile the races" links back to The Washinton Times and Brietbart. The paper you're showing looks like expenses that most organizations would accrue,I see no evidence that people are being paid to protest or disrupt.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Form your own judgment, and reject, renounce or ignore as you see fit.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Looks like reimbursement for protest expenses.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)so quickly, it's hard to keep up. I'll look for the other ones I had before and post them once I finish wading through everything else.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The protestor's are complaining that they were promised to be paid, but weren't. That illustrates that there is some big money coming in from benefactors, but apparently being held by higher-ups. Looks pretty bad...BLM leaders get paid, rank and file gets played. The movement probably won't last until the GE. That sucks, but to be expected with self-serving amateur leadership
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Where does one sign up for a paid protesting job?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And who knows what accounting was done. Was there out of control spending, or did leadership siphon it off? I'm thinking there aren't any records.