2016 Postmortem
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sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)that Political Revolution I think. The country is ready for it.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)supporters were. I turned him off - only two MSNBC libs left before I turn them all off.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)on the fifth anniversary of the invasion, three times in one week. Kucinich was running and he was never on to discuss the IWR vote.
Beginning in 2006/2007 Obama had a lot of media coverage, it was mostly All negative, but his name was constantly put in front of people by the corporate media. People can do some research when given a name is put in front of them, not so when they ignore you.
Good you turned him off IMHO
jwirr
(39,215 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)Democracy Now does not really deal with day to day issues. But I also do not want to be fed corporate news.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)appears to be a few hundred people there
Just flipped to MSNBC they are also just waiting for Trump.
Love our media
jwirr
(39,215 posts)mvd
(65,180 posts)want Bernie to get attention. Because he is a threat to them. Even MSNBC is guilty of this, and they are beccoming less liberal anyway with the recent shakeup. The media probably wants a HRC vs. Jeb election. And though HRC must be elected over any of the clowns for the sake of our country, her positions not supporting a $15 minimum wage, free college education, Glass-Stegall and more shows she won't change things like Bernie would.
Thanks for the thread! Great to see the crowds. Whatever happens, Bernie is showing there is plenty of support growing for progressive candidates.
George II
(67,782 posts)...but unfortunately with all the "turnout" that he's getting as a curiosity piece, he still hasn't cracked 20% in the polls and his major opponent is more than 2-1/2 that nationally:
National - Clinton 54, Sanders 18
Iowa - Clinton 56, Sanders 26
South Carolina - Clinton 78, Sanders 8
North Carolina - Clinton 56, Sanders 21
Florida - Clinton 62, Sanders 17
New Hampshire - Clinton 43, Sanders 38
Seems the "surge" has stalled.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)people get to hear about him. and it's only been a few months since he was a virtual unknown. Amazing.
He's now just a few poits behind Clinton in NH and HAS 'cracked' as you call it, up to 35% in some polls, and in the one poll of Independents I have seen, he's 10 points ahead of Hillary.
Bernie has what is called 'momentum' and is exciting people everywhere he goes.
For every one person at those rallies, there are tens of thousands more who are learning him because of them.
George II
(67,782 posts)...in the the leveled off polls for the last month or so.
Yes, he's in the 30s in New Hampshire, but the fact that he's not ahead in his neighboring state with a demographic identical to his home state next door says a lot. That is the only state where he's above 26% or more than half of Clinton's poll numbers.
What polls show him 10% ahead of Clinton?
Finally, regarding this statement: "For every one person at those rallies, there are tens of thousands more who are learning him because of them."? If there really were 70,000 a his recent rallies, that statement means that 700 million people are "learning him". Surely not in THIS country of only 325 million.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Keep believing the polling, don't trust your eyes...
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Could you provide some links to her massive crowds?
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Go Bernie!
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Every rally grows in numbers exponentially. This guy is going to pull it off.
Go Bernie!
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)2500 -- 5000 -- 10,000 -- 20,000+
May ----June-----July------August
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I'm so excited/releaved his campaign is gaining such momentum!
azmom
(5,208 posts)Go Bernie
think
(11,641 posts)Response to slipslidingaway (Original post)
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restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)lester holt covered it on nightly news and it was on ari for rachel. i don't know about other media, but it is getting out there more than before.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)and I need your help... we are doing well because we are telling the truth ...'
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)(Only because I'm lazy and don't want to miss any of your comments by having to go back and forth between threads. LOL! )
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)have to do is hear this guy,then they understand.
~BERNIE GETS IT~
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Go Bernie!!!!
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)You couldn't even beat Portland! Slackers!
Seriously though that's awesome!
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)I am soooo jealous that you are there...wish I could be!
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)....all over this.
This revolution: NOT televised.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Social media is how many people are getting their news.
These crowds are a result of social media.
Corporate media still pretends it's not happening.
I think the polls are off, now, too.
I think Bernie is going to be the biggest surprise since Truman.
magicmama
(50 posts)when their poll methodologies and their analysis gets blown out of the water by the Revolution. There are key things that statisticians have missed completely. The pollsters are asking the wrong people, for sure. The tidal wave of Berniemania has just barely begun.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)In Tennessee, to be exact.
My city isn't all that conservative (all four of the largest cities in Tennessee have Democratic leadership, despite the redness of the rest of the state), but I'm still in contact with a variety of people and nearly every Democrat I know who is NOT in government is for Bernie. Those elected officials, ironically, are Hillary fans.
Granted, it's not a scientific poll, but given the numbers of people I come in contact with who LOVE this guy in this deep red state, I think a shockwave is headed to knock the corporate media on their collective behinds.
(BTW, Trump is the most popular among the Republicans I know)
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I was worried he wouldn't get a decent turn out. This is incredible!
How long till the mainstream media starts taking this seriously?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)daybranch
(1,309 posts)I understand sit ins in factories, road and bridge shutdowns and supported boycotts have been some of the most successful tactics employed by social movements. Your statement raises the question again of employing these tactics again. For example the Occupy Movement could come Back for Bernie. I understand some in the movement have officially endorsed his candidacy and occupy is about as close as we can get at this point to factory style sit ins and they are the type of demonstrations that call out the oligarchy and their servant politicians. Blocking of roads and bridges may not be targeted adequate for a political candidate to use.
While boycotts were not a new thought for me, the idea of targeted boycotts of main stream media would appear to have a potential of great success. I believe that so many in this country now recognize they are not getting the news but rather the selection of that news to further support the oligarchy that owns those companies, that we have the capability to affect and broaden their coverage of Bernie Sanders and the movement of, by and for the people that is marching stronger everyday via word of mouth, pamphlets , handouts, Bernie speeches and limited appearances, and the internet as an alternative to Main Stream Media. I know it is a matter of pride that many of us turn away from so called main stream media and I believe we should couple that with a campaign to refer to it as Wall Street Media or some other fitting title and ask people to turn off all advertisement sponsored television for one day. If we do this. we will suffer nothing but listening to what they want us to believe. This does not just apply to news programs but cop shows like Bluebloods where they greatly overestimate the threats posed to police and the impediment protection of civil rights poses to them in their work. I do not know where this all started, when Andy Griffin of May berry being seen as a good policeman who operated without violation of civil rights in a community not infested with crime (I note it was all white) turned into Hill Street Blues, justifying abuses of civil rights with its sending the police out each morning with the warning be careful it is a jungle out there,, glorifying the police and blaming the community with that self fulfilling prophecy.
But in any case we could boycott Main Stream Media (Wall Street Media) until they shape up or lose millions of dollars in advertising, and at the same time voice our disapproval of attacks on the internet, the democracy supporting medium. What do you think?? I think we can directly link their non or biased coverage of Bernie to the boycott and fight the oligarchy by reducing their income, and pressure main stream media to give more balanced coverage to Bernie and other issues. Just sayin---
arcane1
(38,613 posts)It's like the political version of Netflix compared to cable TV
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)Thanks for the thread, slipslidingaway.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I say...well, I'll take the high road like Bernie.
GO Bernie!
C Moon
(12,221 posts)"Cowards."
That was brilliant!
pa28
(6,145 posts)We're gonna need a bigger boat.
Maybe we should have gone for 90,000 in the stadium!
Next time!
DiehardLiberal
(580 posts)radhika
(1,008 posts)It was a wonderful night, even if I didn't get inside. Lots of vibrant, diverse, creative and informed people.
Even the Metro light rail was jammed with folks heading to Exposition Park. Funny thing, so many of us Angelenos are still addicted to driving, we all needed coaching on how to use a TAP card and buy a ticket at the station. A tourist from out of the area laughed and said 'you Los Angeles people suck at using public transportation'. Indeed.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)Trump.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)People ate excited for real about what he says ,its not just a scripted sales pitch .
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)I hope he gets a chance to rest up a little bit. The energy was amazing.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 11, 2015, 03:16 AM - Edit history (2)
I had to go track it down and can't get it out of my head now lol
Feel the Bern, make em Feel the Bern, all the way to the White House Feel The Bern,
Feel the Bern, make em Feel the Bern, tell the haters on the Right, They can feel the Bern,
Feel the Bern, make em Feel the Bern, all the way to the White House Feel The Bern,
Feel the Bern, make em Feel the Bern, tell the haters on the Left, They can feel the Bern,
You see them scared shook, hes a democratic socialist, but they dont even know what it means they just roll with it, get over it, check the resume, fighting for civil rights ever since the first day, while other candidates, still with their hands out, we do it old school grassroots standout, cuz this is our time to have our voices heard, you fat cats had your chance now its our turn, they say he cant win cuz hes just too liberal, way too extreme, too honest, too cynical, they want another robot politician, the same old rhetoric, now theyre gonna listen
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haikugal
(6,476 posts)Damn! That's good! Thanks for sharing it with us Catherina!
Feel the Bern, make em feel the Bern!
Love it!
Oh, it was in the OP? Sorry, I missed it the first time...
Catherina
(35,568 posts)and just had to track it down. Glad you like it too!
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)That's right.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Seriously. The massive media attempt to ignore Bernie Sanders in favor of the clown-car GOP shit-show is getting really annoying.
At the most they have been able to bring in only a third of what Sanders has and they had to do it with manditory attendance rules.