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Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:45 PM Aug 2015

Rapper drops Clinton for Sanders



http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/10/politics/lil-b-based-god-black-lives-matter-clinton-sanders/

But last month, Lil B took that endorsement back, and in a series of passionate tweets, he publicly endorsed Bernie Sanders, saying, "As much as I want to a woman leading the USA, right now it's all about Bernie ... he's the real he loves us."

The 25-year-old rapper is a former member of the San Francisco rap crew The Pack, who were best known during the mid 2000s for their Billboard-charting hit "Vans." He is outspoken about racial inequality, the criminal justice system and poverty in both his freestyle lyrics and as a motivational speaker, and he has given lectures at universities including MIT, UCLA and NYU.

(snip)


Sanders stood a few feet off stage and his aides said that he had no intention of leaving during the protests, but when the mic was not handed back to Sanders, organizers effectively shut down the event.

"I think he handled it very classy," Lil B said. "There's some times when these people, they feel the need to speak and they feel like there's an urgency ... I think Bernie let them speak and its the admirable thing to do ... He didn't have security escort them off stage. That's another plus side for Bernie."




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Rapper drops Clinton for Sanders (Original Post) Uncle Joe Aug 2015 OP
thanks for this nt wendylaroux Aug 2015 #1
Don't forget Killer Mike Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #2
Thanks For The Link, Uncle Joe !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #3
Thank you, WillyT!!! Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #11
Thank you, Lil B! SoapBox Aug 2015 #4
So many rappers are endorsing Bernie. Smart people and they are not sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #5
Thanks again for your appreciation, sabrina. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #12
"The streets and the hood is showing love to Bernie @BernieSanders " Catherina Aug 2015 #6
I believe that's because they're coming to the realization Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #13
Oh yeah we do! Some chose to willfully ignore it but we know Catherina Aug 2015 #22
wasn't there some other rapper that endorsed Sanders also JI7 Aug 2015 #7
I believe that Rosa Luxemburg mentioned upthread Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #14
Heavens - at the age of 73 I guess I am going to have to start listening to rap. jwirr Aug 2015 #8
You're never too old to give it a try, jwirr. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #15
I guess not. jwirr Aug 2015 #33
Killer Mike: "Reagan" (NSFW!) Romulox Aug 2015 #19
I actually like this one. Tells the truth. jwirr Aug 2015 #39
Glad you liked it! Romulox Aug 2015 #41
That video was pretty rad. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2015 #44
Lil B is not the right artist for an intro to rap Alittleliberal Aug 2015 #34
Try this one: Feel the Bern, make em Feel the Bern, all the way to the White House Feel The Bern, Catherina Aug 2015 #36
Thank all you for the samples. I really like this one. Good beat and I can understand all of it. jwirr Aug 2015 #38
I got a pretty good taste of it when my kids were growing up Oilwellian Aug 2015 #45
I actually have a grandson who does rap but I have never heard him. The other kids say he is jwirr Aug 2015 #46
He's feeling the Bern. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #9
And the Bern feels them, AtomicKitten. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #16
. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #18
Only wish we could get JBJ on our side davidpdx Aug 2015 #10
Perhaps JBJ will come around in time, davidpdx. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #17
First time - that I know of - I agree with a rapper. Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #20
It is interesting times. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #21
I suppose I'll have to take an interest in the performace art called rap Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #23
Yeah, I wasn't big on the "gangsta" rap & the cop killer rap Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #28
I bet you would agree with them a lot more often than you realize Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #50
Thank you for that suggestion: now I know where to start. n/t Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #52
There are others I think you would agree with also. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #56
If this is an artist thing in general, Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #57
Yes, it would be awesome. I expect some of the musicians who have endorsed him, Killer Mike sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #58
Deja vu artislife Aug 2015 #24
Perhaps that has a lot to do with name recognition Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #30
Great news! RiverLover Aug 2015 #25
CNN BREAKING NEWS Capt. Obvious Aug 2015 #26
The Based God has spoken! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #27
Based God's blessings are upon ye. Catherina Aug 2015 #37
ROFL! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #43
Recommend! KoKo Aug 2015 #29
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #31
Thank you to the Max, Enthusiast! Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #32
Heh. Well, you triggered the expected reply, but it didn't happen in a comment Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #35
One thing about anecdotes if you get enough of them, you have a majority. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #40
That's the way I see it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #42
I don't think anyone in AA cares even a little bit about this endorsement Number23 Aug 2015 #47
It was an OP by 1SBM. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #53
That OP doesn't mention this rapper even once. Like I said, I don't think anyone cares about this Number23 Aug 2015 #54
Bernie Sanders has the lowest "unfavorable" rating among African Americans than any other candidate Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #55
Great to hear. romanic Aug 2015 #48
"We all stand together." Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #49
Uh oh Truprogressive85 Aug 2015 #51

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
5. So many rappers are endorsing Bernie. Smart people and they are not
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:32 AM
Aug 2015

fooled by the attempts to derail his campaign. I follow several musicians and artists, writers etc who have endorsed him and they are not at all influenced by all the hullabaloo that is prevalent on partisan blogs.

Thanks for the post, Uncle Joe!

Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
13. I believe that's because they're coming to the realization
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 01:33 AM
Aug 2015

that Bernie loves them as well.

It's good to see you here, Catherina.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
22. Oh yeah we do! Some chose to willfully ignore it but we know
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 02:36 AM
Aug 2015

and he's hitting very important notes with forth righteousness and sincerity



and from Fawke Em's thread


Two days after Black Lives Matter protesters derailed his rally, Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders allowed the same activist group to open a major campaign event in Los Angeles.

The move on Monday night kicked off a wildly enthusiastic rally that avoided his previous problem in Seattle.

Sanders told the crowd (...) at the Los Angeles Sports Arena that "no president will fight harder to end institutional racism."

The response was a deafening roar and chants of "Bernie!"

http://www.newser.com/article/43ab14134d714a4db37317971ab7fef9/sanders-lets-black-lives-matter-activists-kick-off-la-campaign-event-gets-enthused-response.html


It's great to see you still here Uncle Joe and be on the same team, again!

Alittleliberal

(528 posts)
34. Lil B is not the right artist for an intro to rap
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:05 AM
Aug 2015

He's a brilliant solid activist but most of his music is meh/parody.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
36. Try this one: Feel the Bern, make em Feel the Bern, all the way to the White House Feel The Bern,
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:42 AM
Aug 2015


by Tony Tig



The Pied piper Bernie Sanders for the middle class, while the GOP wants to put our interest last, he’s gon give it to you raw, no hesitation, with the right ideas to lead this great nation, no handouts no special interests groups, he don’t lie to get votes he’s telling you the truth, and while the media wants to down play him, He’s still gonna fight tell em all he ain’t playing, pushing for higher wages so we all can feed our families, The only one I know who can conquer this Insanity, of this wall street bickering, belittling the poor, dollar bills only thing they’re considering, when people need health care, kids need school, when it comes to politics Bernie’s breaking rules, no attack ads on the competition needed, he’s running on the facts and its something that we needed,

Feel the Bern, make em Feel the Bern, all the way to the White House Feel The Bern,
Feel the Bern, make em Feel the Bern, tell the haters on the Right, They can feel the Bern,
Feel the Bern, make em Feel the Bern, all the way to the White House Feel The Bern,
Feel the Bern, make em Feel the Bern, tell the haters on the Left, They can feel the Bern,

You see them scared shook, “he’s a democratic socialist”, but they don’t even know what it means they just roll with it, get over it, check the resume, fighting for civil rights ever since the first day, while other candidates, still with their hands out, we do it old school grassroots standout, cuz this is our time to have our voices heard, you fat cats had your chance now it’s our turn, they say he can’t win cuz he’s just too liberal, way too extreme, too honest, too cynical, they want another robot politician, the same old rhetoric, now they’re gonna listen

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jwirr

(39,215 posts)
38. Thank all you for the samples. I really like this one. Good beat and I can understand all of it.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:19 PM
Aug 2015

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
45. I got a pretty good taste of it when my kids were growing up
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:26 PM
Aug 2015

I loved it when my chest started vibrating from the deep bass notes.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
46. I actually have a grandson who does rap but I have never heard him. The other kids say he is
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:16 PM
Aug 2015

pretty good.

Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
16. And the Bern feels them, AtomicKitten.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 01:38 AM
Aug 2015



http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-84175626/

Sanders, who has been interrupted on several occasions in other cities by Black Lives Matter demonstrators, allowed the group to open his rally in Los Angeles.



It's good to see you here, peace to you.

Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
21. It is interesting times.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 02:04 AM
Aug 2015


http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/10/politics/lil-b-based-god-black-lives-matter-clinton-sanders/

After the recent deaths of several young black men and women at the hands of police officers, civil rights and criminal justice reform are high on the rapper's priority list this election cycle. He released several tracks addressing racial inequality, including "I Can't Breathe," in reference to the choking death of Eric Garner last summer in New York.



Peace to you, Betty Karlson
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
23. I suppose I'll have to take an interest in the performace art called rap
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 02:55 AM
Aug 2015

My hesitation was always that it had a reputation for being foul-mouthed and homophobic.

Peace be with you too.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
28. Yeah, I wasn't big on the "gangsta" rap & the cop killer rap
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 08:34 AM
Aug 2015

But rap is a musical genre that doesn't have any of that necessarily in its definition. Most of those days are gone anyway. There are still angry black rappers - and they should be, but they speak from the heart and it's good to listen to their feelings. I personally enjoy rap music that has a rap verse and a musical harmonious chorus, or vice versa. Just pure rap with a beat and very little musicality doesn't do much for me. But I'm sure most of them aren't big fans of Uriah Heep and AC/DC either, so it balances out nicely.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
50. I bet you would agree with them a lot more often than you realize
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:26 AM
Aug 2015

I am not a huge follower of the genre, but I do know this: there is a long history of politics in the rap/hip-hop genre. Rap often gets a bad reputation because many of the commercial rap acts do contain some really nasty and hateful lyrics, but those acts do not represent the entire genre. There are other artists whose lyrics deal with serious issues like poverty, racism, police brutality, war, the exploitation of workers, and many other issues. While you generally won't see these acts heavily promoted by the media, they do exist and they do often have strong followings. One of the most famous political hip hop acts of all time is Public Enemy, you may not agree with them on everything but you would probably agree with them on a number of issues.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
56. There are others I think you would agree with also.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 02:05 AM
Aug 2015

Bernie seems to be attracting rap musicians many of whom are very involved in social issues and use their music to express their feelings. Killer Mike is another rapper who has endorsed Bernie. Very smart man, thoughtful and a keen observer of what is going on politically in this country.

Artists and musicians seem to be drawn to Bernie, he is speaking from the heart and they hear him. And most of them have very large followings who are influenced by what they say.



 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
57. If this is an artist thing in general,
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 02:10 AM
Aug 2015

I'll hope for a flock of actors, screenwriters, novelists, and musicians to join the Sanderstorm Chorus.

This could be awesome.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
58. Yes, it would be awesome. I expect some of the musicians who have endorsed him, Killer Mike
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 02:14 AM
Aug 2015

would be an incredible event or Crosby and Young, both of whom have endorsed him I believe, among others. Imagine all those concerts for Bernie?

It's early for endorsements but he's racked up quite a few from the artistic world so far.

'Sanderstorm Chorus' ... I like that!

Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
30. Perhaps that has a lot to do with name recognition
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 08:54 AM
Aug 2015

Since 1988 out of 8 Presidential Elections a Bush or Clinton has run in 7 of them, so they get a lot of initial followers just because so many people know the names.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
25. Great news!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:42 AM
Aug 2015

Hopefully, many more people will be waking up & willing to publicly change their endorsement!!

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
27. The Based God has spoken!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 08:21 AM
Aug 2015


One of my favaorite Lil B songs is titled: "Ellen DeGeneres". Should have gone much higher in the charts!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
37. Based God's blessings are upon ye.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:54 AM
Aug 2015

Lol, ask Kevin Durant about that curse. Based God has spoken. Hillary's campaign is about to look like James Harden's game 5.

Any bets on who's coming down with the next foot injury?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
35. Heh. Well, you triggered the expected reply, but it didn't happen in a comment
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:38 AM
Aug 2015

instead it popped up as a diary in the AA group.

Any mention of any black person who supports Bernie is anecdotal, does not represent the mainstream of black thought, is merely akin to claiming Bernie has black friends, and doesn't mean anything. Oh, and it shows 'desperation' on Bernie supporters' part.

We'll see who's right when voting actually rolls around.

Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
40. One thing about anecdotes if you get enough of them, you have a majority.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:33 PM
Aug 2015

Thanks for the info. Erich Bloodaxe BSM.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
42. That's the way I see it.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:43 PM
Aug 2015

With enough time, I think Bernie will win over enough people, both black and white. Then all of the comments about not being in the 'mainstream' will be self-evidently wrong.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
47. I don't think anyone in AA cares even a little bit about this endorsement
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:07 PM
Aug 2015

So your idea that it's been discussed in the AA forum, I haven't seen that.

We predicted weeks ago that given Sanders' incredibly low level of support in minority communities that every single solitary endorsement from a brown person would get waved around this web site like a flag by his fans. No endorsement would be too small or insignificant.

We haven't been wrong about anything yet.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
53. It was an OP by 1SBM.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 08:31 AM
Aug 2015

So yeah, he cared enough to post something.

My point is that no matter what happens, the same comments about how Bernie doesn't appeal to 'mainstream' blacks will be rolled out. At least until he starts picking up significant numbers, at which point we'll get crickets.

Edited: Here's the link to the OP I mean.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118721406

Number23

(24,544 posts)
54. That OP doesn't mention this rapper even once. Like I said, I don't think anyone cares about this
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 05:34 PM
Aug 2015

endorsement. Except for Bernie supporters. For some reason, it really means something to them.

I didn't care when Snoop and Beyonce endorsed Hillary. And I'm sure that Ted Nugent will endorse Bush and I won't give a shit about that either.

And the bottom line is, what 1SBM posted is true. Bernie's support in minority communities right now is so low as to almost be negligible. That is simply a fact. Which is why every brown face that does endorse him gets trotted out by his supporters. Like I said, no endorsement is too small or insignificant. And as 1SBM said, it really is kind of funny in a kind of sad kind of way.

Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
55. Bernie Sanders has the lowest "unfavorable" rating among African Americans than any other candidate
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 01:56 AM
Aug 2015

in the race, it's even 2 points lower than Hillary Clinton's.

Sanders' biggest challenge against Clinton is name recognition, 92% of African Americans are "familiar" with Clinton and only 33% are familiar with Sanders.

It's not surprising that Clinton's name is so familiar as a Bush or Clinton has run in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections and the corporate media keeps her name front and center.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/184547/clinton-favorability-strong-among-black-americans.aspx

That's why endorsements like this are important to Bernie Sanders and his supporters, it brings positive name publicity.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
48. Great to hear.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:09 AM
Aug 2015

Now im just waiting for someone to claim us POC Sanders supporters are on the same level as unicorns. Ill have my sparkling horn at the ready.

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