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kenn3d

(486 posts)
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:47 AM Aug 2015

Why huge Los Angeles crowd turned out for Bernie Sanders

http://www.trbimg.com/img-55c98a65/turbine/la-2435477-me-0810-bernie-mwy-0174-jpg-20150810/900/900x506

Marilynn Manderscheid is a retired elementary school teacher who drove from Orange County to hear Sanders speak Monday night. She said that despite polls that show Sanders trailing Clinton, she believes he's a serious challenger.

"I remember when John F. Kennedy won when everyone said a Catholic couldn't possibly be elected. I walked precincts for Barack Obama when people said a mixed-race man could not win but he did," Manderscheid said. "So, yes, I think Bernie — if he sticks to his message — will have a strong chance at winning the primary."

Ledbetter, the 17-year-old, said she thought Sanders was taking the right approach to women's rights issues and income inequality.

"He's the first candidate I've really felt a resonance with," added Ledbetter, who said she had followed politics since she was 10.

Streety, of Orange County, said she had been discouraged by politics and had stopped voting. She didn't cast a ballot during the last presidential election.

"I was politically stagnant," she said. "I felt like my vote didn't count."

But she said Sanders had resurrected her faith in elections. She was also moved by the young faces in the crowd.

"These kids are elated. I can feel it," Streety said. "These kids are going to vote."


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-sanders-california-20150811-story.html#page=1
(Lots more good photos of the event in the article also)
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Why huge Los Angeles crowd turned out for Bernie Sanders (Original Post) kenn3d Aug 2015 OP
K&R Cleita Aug 2015 #1
Clinton Followers Fake billhicks76 Aug 2015 #51
"These kids are going to vote." central scrutinizer Aug 2015 #2
My 17 year old daughter and her friends who work at the local Dairy Queen were talking politics Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #3
i think it is a different dynamic now restorefreedom Aug 2015 #14
My young grandson (who is providing me with a home) came into my room all excited about jwirr Aug 2015 #15
That is great that they are talking about politics davidpdx Aug 2015 #52
We're from WI. He probably has misguided parents. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #56
Hard core White Supremacy brought them out to the Bernie Sanders rally! nt Romulox Aug 2015 #4
....... Sophiegirl Aug 2015 #5
Maybe you missed the news cycle this past weekend. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #6
I didn't miss it. Sophiegirl Aug 2015 #7
I guess we'll all have to work things out based on context. Tough, (I know!), but doable. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #8
Could you please clarify what you mean in your comments which seem evasive? Thanks. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #16
You have got to be kidding me. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #19
No specifics so people interpret on their own what you are saying. That's ok. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #20
I thought they were kidding you too! navarth Aug 2015 #32
Dat Poe's Law do' JackInGreen Aug 2015 #9
LOL! Ain't it the truth?! Peace Patriot Aug 2015 #21
well spoken. nt navarth Aug 2015 #33
I just tell those who ask me about him to listen to one of his speeches. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #35
+1 Bubzer Aug 2015 #39
Either that or she's a self-hating woman.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #30
Had the rally been on a weekend, the LibDemAlways Aug 2015 #10
There's now a Metro rail... americannightmare Aug 2015 #18
Yeah, but people in LA drive themselves everywhere.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #31
The Metro stations were jam-packed. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #36
Even I have taken the Metro artislife Aug 2015 #44
"if he sticks to his message" fbc Aug 2015 #11
K&R -- So glad this was published in the LA Times senz Aug 2015 #12
"Somethin's happenin' here..." Yep. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #42
For the faithful! Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #13
I was watching OAN d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #17
When I saw the crowd last night in LA and thought to myself, multiply this at least by three JDPriestly Aug 2015 #37
CNN On The Size Of Bernie Sanders’ Rallies: “Are You Listening, Hillary Clinton?" kenn3d Aug 2015 #22
More people came to see Sanders in Portland than LA and Seattle davidpdx Aug 2015 #53
Bernie doesn't use the plot arc or hook olddots Aug 2015 #23
Absolutely. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #38
Bernie Sanders' Eye-Popping West Coast Swing: 3 Days, 70,000 Cheering Supporters kenn3d Aug 2015 #24
bump! Jesus Malverde Aug 2015 #25
BIG K&R nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #26
Bernie Sanders Addresses Overflow Crowd in LA slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #27
That's cool Mnpaul Aug 2015 #28
Yes and this is after his speech inside! n/t slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #29
Thank you for posting this artislife Aug 2015 #45
Because Bernie is awesome! Feeling the Bern Aug 2015 #34
Its good to see all these positive articles! Bubzer Aug 2015 #40
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #41
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #43
This is exactly the kind of voter that's going to have the professional pollers RichVRichV Aug 2015 #46
Kicked and highly recommended! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #47
Ledbetters are good eggs! Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #48
I wasn't here yesterday and wondered what caused all the "Give up, it's over Bernie" threads. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #49
It's a slow controlled Bern. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #50
Sanders passes the sniff test Babel_17 Aug 2015 #54
Teddy Roosevelt =Square Deal. FDR= New Deal. Bernie= Real Deal AzDar Aug 2015 #55
K & R LWolf Aug 2015 #57

central scrutinizer

(11,662 posts)
2. "These kids are going to vote."
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:15 AM
Aug 2015

That is why I feel Bernie has a real chance. Can you imagine the kids getting excited about a Clinton v. Bush election? The Rs have been able to win because they can get their base to the polls and when only 35% vote, you only need 18% to take control.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
3. My 17 year old daughter and her friends who work at the local Dairy Queen were talking politics
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:37 AM
Aug 2015

last night after work. One kid was excited about trump, another and my daughter told him about Bernie Sanders and how awesome it was that Bernie was talking about "Free College". The trump "supporter" said "hmmm, I've never heard of him. I'll have to look him up." Kids talking politics and changing minds of Trump supporters! I mean, this didn't happen in my group when I was a young voter. This is exciting as all get-out!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
14. i think it is a different dynamic now
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:41 PM
Aug 2015

especially for young people. They are not married to a party or a party so called ideology. They're pretty pragmatic and want to see the right thing done. I think both Bernie and trump represent a revolt against the establishment, and that's why I think a lot of Bernie supporters might end up being former trump supporters, especially among younger people.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
15. My young grandson (who is providing me with a home) came into my room all excited about
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 01:06 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie - we talked for a while about Bernie and why we like him. At the end I told him that if Bernie does not win we will have to vote for Hillary. He looked at me and said I am going to have to think about that.

These kids are well educated and they are thinkers. I really love that.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
52. That is great that they are talking about politics
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 07:51 AM
Aug 2015

I became interested in politics at a young age.

I have no idea what to say about the kid that liked Trump though. Poor misguided soul.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
32. I thought they were kidding you too!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:12 PM
Aug 2015

...and doing a hell of a job at it! Still chuckling.

That'll teach ya, Mr. Smarty Pants.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
21. LOL! Ain't it the truth?!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 02:26 PM
Aug 2015

It's certainly been educational to see how much effort is going into slandering, discrediting, demeaning and marginalizing the best candidate for president I've seen in my (long) lifetime, and into DIVIDING AND CONQUERING his natural constituency: all of us in the poor white, poor black and poor brown VAST MAJORITY.

Let us not be divided. Let us not be misguided. Let us slay racism and social injustice, and corporate-military rule and rigged elections TOGETHER. That is the only way it can be done. DO. NOT. BE. FOOLED. BY. DIVISIVE. TACTICS.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
35. I just tell those who ask me about him to listen to one of his speeches.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:56 PM
Aug 2015

Got a call from one of the people I said that to today. She's on board with Bernie. Felt the Bern I guess.

If you watch and listen to him talk, you know that he is the real thing.

Not so with Hillary. She evades, avoids, talks around the point. She is strong on a few issues but leaves too much unsaid and doesn't answer uncomfortable questions.

Besides, I cannot support Hillary on trade, on the ease with which we get entangled in wars, on student loans and education, on so many issues that I don't think I can vote for her. And since I am in California, a true blue state that will vote for her and that is far from a swing state, I don't have to. So I won't vote for Hillary.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
10. Had the rally been on a weekend, the
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:14 PM
Aug 2015

crowd would easily have at least doubled. Anyone familiar with LA traffic knows weekday rush hour traffic near downtown is a nightmare and public transportation options to the Sports Arena are limited. That an overflow crowd jammed the venue on a Monday night with thousands more outside is testament to the strength of Bernie's message and people's desire to hear a politician speak the unvarnished truth.

americannightmare

(322 posts)
18. There's now a Metro rail...
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 01:49 PM
Aug 2015

stop at Expo Park/USC. If you're going to go to the trouble of going anywhere near downtown LA at rush hour, you have no right to complain about the vehicle traffic when there is at least one transit alternative.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
36. The Metro stations were jam-packed.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:05 AM
Aug 2015

People were riding the Metro who had never ridden before. Talk about an American Nightmare.

I was among them because I love riding the Metro.

The event was on the East Side. If you worked on the West Side or North in the Valley or even far to the East, you could not get to the event.

Bernie could have held a second event anywhere from Mid-Wilshire or Korea Town to the Coast and yet another up in the Valley and probably had a crowd the size of the Sports Arena crowd at each one.

One reporter said the group was mostly white. There were a lot of white people, but LA's East side is where people of color live. I think our area is majority non-white, so the Bernie crowd had a lot of older white people and maybe some USC students since it was held on their campus, but it reflected the diversity of East LA pretty well.

Who was conspicuous by their apparent absence? The usual political crowd. A lot of Bernie supporters are people who haven't cared much about politics until they heard him.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
11. "if he sticks to his message"
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:17 PM
Aug 2015

He's been sticking to it for 50 years. I doubt he's going to change now.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
12. K&R -- So glad this was published in the LA Times
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:30 PM
Aug 2015

Next to Bernie's message itself, the stories of his supporters -- especially new/returned voters -- are powerful.

Somethin's happenin' here...

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
13. For the faithful!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:34 PM
Aug 2015
But she said Sanders had resurrected her faith in elections.

I would add; faith in elected representatives actually
caring and doing something this selfless and brave!

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
17. I was watching OAN
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 01:28 PM
Aug 2015

and they're saying that he's becoming a force that's creeping up on Hillary. Alright!!!

Now the rest of the main stream is saying the same thing: he's unelectable. Screw them!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
37. When I saw the crowd last night in LA and thought to myself, multiply this at least by three
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:07 AM
Aug 2015

since this is only the Eastside with people traveling quite a while to join in from the West side or the Valley, Hillary really better start looking in that rear view mirror.

And people don't even know about Bernie yet. Just listen to one of his speeches and you are hooked.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
53. More people came to see Sanders in Portland than LA and Seattle
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 07:58 AM
Aug 2015

COOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
23. Bernie doesn't use the plot arc or hook
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 03:06 PM
Aug 2015

he speaks about what people speak about the way we speak .
When people get on their feet applauding till their hands hurt it isn't about a well crafted speech guarentied to bring a rush of mass hysteria and warm fuzzy feeling of belonging .He is winging it working without a net which is what we all do in real life .

The other candidates in this thing look and sound like TV and thats why so many people are finally cutting the cord to this last 60 years of media messaging .

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
38. Absolutely.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:11 AM
Aug 2015

No cute stories. Jokes are rare and always simple puns or political, totally political.

No rhetorical flourishes. It's amazing.

Oh, and he cites NUMBERS! NUMBERS!

Since when do you win a crowd over by talking about the math of inequality. Wow!

kenn3d

(486 posts)
24. Bernie Sanders' Eye-Popping West Coast Swing: 3 Days, 70,000 Cheering Supporters
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 03:29 PM
Aug 2015
:large
For Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, the Democratic presidential candidate and self-proclaimed socialist, it was the third staggeringly large crowd in three nights that capped a west coast swing that put his political rivals on notice. From fellow white-haired activists to youth wielding signs depicting him as "Bernie Man," his head grafted onto a stick figure representing the counterculture Burning Man festival in Nevada, his fans turned out in numbers that other candidates might only dream of at this early stage in the race.
...
Sanders, once done with his speech, went outside and addressed the overflow crowd directly.

"The atmosphere was electric," said Richard Graham, an author who drove up from San Diego with friends to see Sanders.



http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-11/bernie-sanders-eye-popping-west-coast-swing-3-days-70-000-cheering-supporters

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
46. This is exactly the kind of voter that's going to have the professional pollers
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:55 AM
Aug 2015

scratching their heads come election day.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
47. Kicked and highly recommended!
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:31 AM
Aug 2015
Ledbetter, the 17-year-old, said she thought Sanders was taking the right approach to women's rights issues and income inequality.


Yep. Bernie has always been on our side.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
49. I wasn't here yesterday and wondered what caused all the "Give up, it's over Bernie" threads.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:49 AM
Aug 2015

I should have known it was more great news about Bernie and his message.


Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
54. Sanders passes the sniff test
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:52 AM
Aug 2015

I say that jokingly but it's rooted in fact. Human beings instinctively approach with trepidation something they know to be potentially dangerous, but which they may need.

This is how voters approach politicians, and for many excellent reasons. Does Sanders reek of special interest money? Is he rotten, as indicated by squishiness on the issues? Does he evoke the memory of bad encounters with him in the past?

People are sizing him up on both the intellectual and visceral level. The power of his campaign is that people are getting the opportunity to size him up quickly and directly.

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