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The Bernie Sanders Surge Appears To Be Over (Original Post) Cryptoad Aug 2015 OP
well, it's from his site. Stellar Aug 2015 #1
Harry Enten is a senior political writer and analyst at FiveThirtyEight. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #6
OK... Stellar Aug 2015 #25
The little white slice of white America selecting a President that is Iowa and NH is among the most Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #2
That racist dog Sanders would be skunked Armstead Aug 2015 #3
That is very poorly done sarcasm, I have to say. Just my opinion. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #4
Matching the quality of the post it was responding to Armstead Aug 2015 #5
A very valid point dsc Aug 2015 #14
I think South Carolina is next after NH. That will not be all white. But I agree that to consider jwirr Aug 2015 #15
What a crock onecaliberal Aug 2015 #7
In what way, Charlie? Sheepshank Aug 2015 #9
Isn't this about the fifth gloating thread proclaiming this today? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #8
I know I have seen at least three so far! nt m-lekktor Aug 2015 #10
There's two. The one I started and this one Godhumor Aug 2015 #13
no problem! i will take your word for it! m-lekktor Aug 2015 #17
Not as many as sarcastic... Adrahil Aug 2015 #19
Oh Poo...I guess I should just pack up my marbles and go home... NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #11
Nate can take a long walk on a short pier. magicmama Aug 2015 #12
ahh yes, those 70,000+ who attended his rallies over the weekend Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #16
No, they're part of the 15-20% Sanders is polling... brooklynite Aug 2015 #18
I guess ... left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #20
I'm curious how you think that's a response to Enten's point Recursion Aug 2015 #28
The Bernie Sanders Surge Appears To Be Over left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #29
So, make an argument Recursion Aug 2015 #30
Sadly, the Whining About Bernie Sanders Surge shows no signs of abating. QC Aug 2015 #21
the ridiculous thing is ibegurpard Aug 2015 #22
HRC fans better hope so. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #23
Look what Nate Silver said just 3 months ago... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #24
Objectively speaking I don't think the polls say everything at this point. After the debates, and still_one Aug 2015 #26
Yah, good ol' Nate is busy trying to put a fire out. delrem Aug 2015 #27
,,, and they know how to Cryptoad Aug 2015 #31

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. The little white slice of white America selecting a President that is Iowa and NH is among the most
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:40 PM
Aug 2015

valuable white privilege of them all.

What are they, like 99.9% white?

What if the first two must win or be close Presidential primaries were in Washington D.C. and Maryland?

Or name two others of your own a little more representative of race makeup in America than Iowa and N.H.

Then what would all the pandering and framing of the issues look like?

dsc

(52,166 posts)
14. A very valid point
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 08:54 PM
Aug 2015

Now Maryland with a candidate in the race would likely not really be pandered to as much but to take one issue, ethanol. We have an ethanol program only because Iowa has the first caucus. If DC went first, DC statehood would be sacred.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
15. I think South Carolina is next after NH. That will not be all white. But I agree that to consider
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 08:54 PM
Aug 2015

two almost totally all white states set the trend for who is supposed to be the winner is pretty far out. They are also small states with small electoral numbers which means they are pretty rural. I don't think I would bet the farm on these two states or even the first three.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
9. In what way, Charlie?
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 08:39 PM
Aug 2015

I don't think it was poorly written, I don't think the credentials of the writer can be questioned, I don't think they made up the poll numbers....but it does appear that you don't like the numbers. So is that the crock?

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
17. no problem! i will take your word for it!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 08:57 PM
Aug 2015

it doesn't matter to me personally how many times it is posted.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
19. Not as many as sarcastic...
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:08 PM
Aug 2015

"White supremacist liberal" posts. Lots more to catch up with those.


Meh... IMO, the article is good, but we shouldn't make too much of it. It's a snapshot in time and a lot of things can, and will, happen.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
11. Oh Poo...I guess I should just pack up my marbles and go home...
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 08:46 PM
Aug 2015

NOT

Nobody buys this type of subversive crappola anymore. They can try all the silly memes they want, but I'm pretty sure folks will believe their own eyes and their own ears this go round.

 

magicmama

(50 posts)
12. Nate can take a long walk on a short pier.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 08:47 PM
Aug 2015

He's badly underestimating Bernie. And he will be wrong at the end.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
16. ahh yes, those 70,000+ who attended his rallies over the weekend
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 08:57 PM
Aug 2015

are way behind the curve.


Believe what ever helps you sleep at night but until we get a couple debates behind us none of these polls really matter.





brooklynite

(94,729 posts)
18. No, they're part of the 15-20% Sanders is polling...
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:07 PM
Aug 2015

...based on 2008 numbers, Sanders can expect to get 8 million votes. Pretty respectable, but not enough to win.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
28. I'm curious how you think that's a response to Enten's point
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:27 PM
Aug 2015

There are certainly 28,000 Sanders supporters in L.A.; there's probably about a quarter of a million, all told, but that's still only 20% of the Democratic voters in the city.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
29. The Bernie Sanders Surge Appears To Be Over
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:32 PM
Aug 2015

He continues to attract crowds in the tens of thousands. Doesn't appear Sanders has peaked. JMHO

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
30. So, make an argument
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:38 PM
Aug 2015

What does pulling a large crowd in a large city tell you about increased support in the future?

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
22. the ridiculous thing is
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:57 PM
Aug 2015

We have 5 months to go and ANYONE who knows anything about politics knows that's an eternity. Polling didn't save Eric Cantor. Neither did money. If polls haven't budged by January then I'll start believing it. Right now it's just a weapon to try to discourage opposition.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
24. Look what Nate Silver said just 3 months ago...
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:06 PM
Aug 2015
The World May Have A Polling Problem," Silver asserted. "In fact, it’s become harder to find an election in which the polls did all that well."


still_one

(92,403 posts)
26. Objectively speaking I don't think the polls say everything at this point. After the debates, and
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:21 PM
Aug 2015

closer to the first primary in Feburary, I think we will get a more accurate picture

delrem

(9,688 posts)
27. Yah, good ol' Nate is busy trying to put a fire out.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:22 PM
Aug 2015

Well, these pollsters, they do know who buys the most polls. That's their business.

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