CNN has Obama up by 3 nationally but Mitt up by 8 in swing states???

[WI_DEM]

(note that CNN (Conservative News Network) considers Indiana, Missouri & Arizona among the 'battleground states', I'm sure they were added to make it look better for Mittens):

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/02/1104715/-Daily-Kos-Elections-Polling-Wrap-A-predictable-start-to-the-month-of-July?showAll=yes

CNN's poll of the presidential race comes in precisely where it did at the end of May—Obama +3. But digging into the underlying numbers of this poll, there is a whole lot of strange details in there. I don't buy Mitt Romney up eight points in the "battleground states," for example, especially if (as CNN claims) Barack Obama is claiming 25 percent of the conservative vote. You can click the tab for more of those underlying data points. There's a lot of "hmm" in there, to be sure.

[Champion Jack]

1. CNN? Bwaaahaahahahahaa

[KansDem]

2. CNN? CNN? Oh yeah, they're the ones who reported...

...that the SCOTUS had overturned President Obama’s health-care law!

Maybe they didn't read the second page of the poll?

[get the red out]

3. CNN

The WTF? name in news.

[demwing]

6. The Whirled Leader in News

[bemildred]

4. Lies, damn lies, and statistics ...

[demwing]

5. My favorite response on the CNN poll:

5. We'd like to get your overall opinion of some people in the news. As I read each name, please say
if you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of these people -- or if you have never heard of
them.
- -
Mitt Romney
Favorable - 48%
Unfavorable - 42%
Never heard of - 5%
No opinion - 6%

5% of all those polled have never heard of Mitt Romney? Hell, the very first question in the poll introduced Romney as the Republican candidate for president. As this was the 5th question, do people not remember that guy from 4 questions back? That guy named MITT?

jesus h christ....

[yellowcanine]

7. To paraphrase Dave Barry those same people probably don't remember their own zip code either.

Actually I am surprised that the number is only 5%. Of course you have to figure that at least that many are probably too embarrassed to admit they don't know who Mitt Romney is.

[demwing]

8. I've worked in call centers

where some customers didn't know what city they lived in, just the state. (Hint - the state name started with the letter "M" and ended with the letters "ississippi&quot .

How the hell do you not know your own city?

[yellowcanine]

10. To be fair, place names can be very confusing in some areas.

For example, in the suburbs of Washington DC you could be in Hyattsville, Riverdale Park, University Park, College Park, or Adelphi within about a mile.

[demwing]

15. Confusing for a traveler, sure

but if you don't know what city you live in, then pick up your mail and read the address back to me. BTW, I'm not talking about people who got their city wrong, I'm talking about people who had NO clue. They drew a blank...

[Amonester]

17. Maybe because they also don't know how to read.

Illiteracy is pervasive.

[demwing]

19. OK, that's my point - that they are illiterate, not confused

so thank you for your support

[Avalux]

9. I am convinced the 'polls' are bunk, designed to make us think the race is closer than it is.

Just like Romney raising more $$; not because he's popular, but because he has billionaires pushing him like snake oil.

IF the media had any concern for the truth, they'd stop doing these rediculous polls which are designed to keep us all thinking it's a neck and neck horse race with a photo finish. If we didn't believe it was, we wouldn't keep watching and paying attention. It's all about the ratings.

[bigdarryl]

11. Nate Silver says other wise

[jenmito]

12. As Chuck Todd said today regarding that poll: "Memo to other pollsters-when you pick

'battleground states,' make sure you pick states where campaigns are actually 'battling.'" He didn't use this CNN Battleground States poll. Good for him!

[leftynyc]

13. They included AZ, MO & IN as battleground states

Pretty sure that's what threw these numbers off.

[coalition_unwilling]

14. If IN is a 'battleground state,' then Obama has the election in the bag already - n/t

[leftynyc]

16. Same with Arizona

That poll is worthless.

[Amonester]

18. So far, looks like he does have it in.

http://electoral-vote.com/

BUT, it's still way too early to celebrate, and never too late to keep working for victory.

[Rosanna Lopez]

29. Electoral-Vote.com

How accurate is this website? What's it's history and accuracy of predicting the 2008 election?

[Amonester]

30. If you look at the 2008 graphs at that page from EV, they were quite good.

http://electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Pres/ec_graph-2012.html

To see the 2008 month-to-month graphs, you'll have to scroll down the page below the current 2012 graphs.

Of course there is still a lot of work to do. This victory isn't in the bag yet by any means.

[Jennicut]

22. Since when has AZ ever been a battleground state?

If it was one, Romney would be in deep trouble.

[DCBob]

24. Those states should be solid Red.. if they are truely tossups then Obama is a lock.

Dumb poll.

[Rosanna Lopez]

20. 50% Approval

One conflict in the poll is that CNN has Obama at 50% approval. If that's the case, then he should be on his way to re-election.

[a kennedy]

21. Intrade, I know....it's Intrade has the POTUS up to 56.1%

http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/ it's going up. and I know it's Intrade........

[Ivywoods55]

23. This poll has to be an outlier...

Romney is not up by 8, and anyone who thinks he is needs a good dose of laxative. And his favorable rating at 48%...lol..lol..I wonder how many of those people he paid to like him?

[Ter]

25. No suprise

Mittens was bound to get a boost when the health care decision came out. Tea Baggers are totally fired up, and moderates swung a little too.

[Dawson Leery]

26. All other polls have shown Obama with an advantage.

[demosincebirth]

27. Yup, Obama ahead in swing states. I wonder who they're polling? I don't cal Ind. and Az, swing

states by a long shot.

[CanonRay]

28. If CNN says the sun comes up in the East

don't believe it.