Tips on Deleting Emails From Email Book Hillary Clinton Wanted to Read

[DavidDvorkin]

The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called “Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe.

Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal.

The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations.

Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.” The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.”

http://abcnews.go.com/beta/Politics/tips-deleting-emails-email-book-hillary-clinton-wanted/story?id=33046042


Just more irrelevant, meaningless fluff, of course.

[Maedhros]

1. No, this is not an issue. [n/t]

[DavidDvorkin]

2. Well, okay, then.

That takes care of that.

[Maedhros]

4. I imagine a great many people have ordered a copy of this book,

probably because they want to get better at using email for professional purposes. To suggest that Hillary ordered this book specifically to help her thwart the law is a stretch.

So much of a stretch that assholes like Breitbart are pushing it:

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/08/13/hillary-clinton-requested-book-with-tips-on-how-to-delete-something-so-it-stays-deleted/

Look - I've been critical of Hillary's use of a private server from an information security perspective, and consider it to have been a serious failure in judgement - but I can't go so far as to suggest that ordering this book is part of a nefarious plot.

[emulatorloo]

9. Yeah pretty much. You tried and you failed.

You want to climb on the Republican Lie Machine band-wagon, knock yourself out.

Poster above notes you are cribbing from the likes of Breitbart. You know where that leads, right?

[DavidDvorkin]

18. I tried what?

[emulatorloo]

20. You tried the the same thing that Breitbart.com tried

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/08/13/hillary-clinton-requested-book-with-tips-on-how-to-delete-something-so-it-stays-deleted/

Pretty lame smear coming from Breitbart, even lamer when it is parroted by a smart DU'er.

[DavidDvorkin]

23. It comes from ABC News

Breitbart picked it up from there.

[emulatorloo]

24. And like Breitbart, you ran with it. And promoted this nonsense on DU

I thought DU'ers were supposed to be better analytical thinkers

[DavidDvorkin]

26. I don't consider it nonsense.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

3. Keep fucking that chicken.

[NCTraveler]

11. I haven't watched the video and I can't stop laughing. nt.

[Adrahil]

5. Yeah!

Why the hell would anyone want a book on managing email better if they are getting something like 10,000 emails a year!?

IN fact, I may get that book. My work email inbox is off the hook, and I get about half the number of emails Clinton did.

[jonno99]

8. So do you take extra steps to doubly, and "triply" delete the emails in your trash? I don't.

Consider too that she has "people" who are taking care of her IT. If she is getting into the nuts & bolts of data security, that is not "normal" behavior - IMHO.

[Adrahil]

12. Well, two things....

First, that's not what the whole book is about.

And second, if I were SoS, I'd probably want to ensure that if I deleted mails for whatever reason, they'd stay deleted. But deleting one's own mail isn't enough to ensure any embarrassing emails wouldn't be seen..... typically they are on someone else's server as well.

[LuvLoogie]

13. I tell my end users to do exactly that all the time

Mailboxes get full. You can't just delete your inbox if you want to free up space. You have to also delete your sent items. Then after you are done deleting your folders, you then have to delete the deleted items folder.

Full mailboxes can inhibit your ability to send and receive email, let alone any attachments. Sorry Johnno...

[jonno99]

14. Certainly, and I do the same. If I understand the OP however, we talking about "in depth"

deleting - drive scrubbing etc. If this is the case it is not just your run of the mill "I'm cleaning up my stuff".

And like I said if she was merely interested is security, she would have directed her IT guys to make sure that the stuff she wanted deleted - was really deleted. She wouldn't be looking to do it herself - IMHO...

[LuvLoogie]

16. That is ABC's focus on the one chapter

Here is the Google Books Summary. This is hardly a Forensics How to:

Send—the classic guide to email for office and home and an instant success upon its original publication—has become indispensable for readers navigating the impersonal, and often overwhelming, world of electronic communication. Filled with real-life email success (and horror) stories and a wealth of entertaining examples, Send reveals the hidden minefields and pitfalls of email. It provides clear rules for handling all of today’s thorniest email issues, from salutations and subject lines to bcc’s and emoticons. It explains when you absolutely shouldn’t send an email and what to do when you’ve sent (in anger or in error) a potentially career-ending electronic bombshell. And it offers invaluable strategies to help you both better manage the ever-increasing number of emails you receive and improve the ones you send.

In this revised edition, David Shipley and Will Schwalbe have added fresh tales from the digital realm and a new afterword—“How to Keep Email from Taking Over Your Life,” which includes sage advice on handheld etiquette. Send is now more essential than ever, a wise and witty book that every businessperson and professional should read and read again.

[jonno99]

17. I agree it does look like a pretty simplistic book (I just looked it up on Amazon). Unfortunately

for HRC, the timing of this disclosure just makes for more bad press - no matter how innocent the reality may actually be.

There is blood in the water - and the sharks are circling...

[sufrommich]

21. Ridiculous. "High powered SOS buys self help

book to delete e-mails",because she probably has no tech people who could do that for her.Only morons,or those who want to believe,would believe this tripe.

[jonno99]

28. Sorry - I'm not following - what is "this tripe"? Are you of the opinion that:

- it's moronic to believe that she wanted to delete emails?
- it's moronic to believe she has no tech people?
- it's moronic to believe that she bought the book?

[JackInGreen]

7. Or if she really wanted to

AnY of her interns could google up a copy of €raser and do a 32pass DOD sweep of the harddrive.
it doesn't take a book to do that. The is kinda specious.

[sufrommich]

10. It boggles the mind that anyone buys this crap,let

alone anyone with a 3 digit IQ.

[fadedrose]

15. I think the book is written for people with a 3-digit IQ

Somebody with a low IQ wouldn't even be interested in the email topic. They'd probably post their whole life complete with pictures on Twitter or Facebook, never thinking of those who might prey on them.

[SonderWoman]

19. Congratulations DU. You're helping the GOP get the WH.

[DavidDvorkin]

22. I think a Clinton nomination is what will give the White House to the GOP

Ignoring these problems or pretending that they're GOP inventions doesn't help.

[emulatorloo]

25. I know! If only we'd taken the GOP seriously over Whitewater!1!1

Hillary would be in prison now!!!!

Hillary Clinton is too conservative for me. However, Right wing smears are best left to the right-wing liars.

Attack her for her policies. Let Breitbart have the Benghazi spin-offs.

[cyberswede]

27. DU has absolutely no bearing on the outside world. nt

[Skwmom]

29. The political operatives are clueless. They don't live in the real world. n/t